最愚蠢(這詞不是我選的)的一個理由是:除了槍,刀和車都能用作殺人工具,為什麽隻禁槍,而不禁刀、禁車?問出這樣蠢的問題的人,我必須說,如果不是惡意攪局,那他的邏輯或智力測試一定不及格。我同意著名的科學哲學家道金斯在其推特文中做的判斷:這是個最最最蠢的論點(the silliest of all the silly arguments of gun crazies)。我就直接借用道金斯的回複吧:“為什麽禁槍而不禁卡車?這一定是擁槍狂們各種愚蠢論點中最最最蠢的論點了。卡車是為了其它用途而設計生產出來的,比如作為交通運輸的工具。而軍隊的槍支,它唯一的用途就是殺人!”
回複 'tony933' 的評論 : 這位先生,我剛剛讀了你的留言。我要提醒你,讓小孩可以拿到槍並且自行用槍,在美國是犯法的。這些法律叫Child Access Prevention (CAP). CAP laws take a variety of forms. The strongest laws impose criminal liability when a minor is likely to gain access to a negligently stored firearm regardless of whether the minor actually gains access (California). The weakest merely prohibit certain persons, such as parents or guardians, from directly providing a firearm to a minor (Utah). 美國允許成年人買槍,但不允許被未成年人自行取得並使用。我相信你的用心是好的,但是,槍支泛濫的惡果很多就是從像你這樣的成年人對槍支不好好保管,讓它落到不應該有槍的小孩手中開始的。這就是為什麽我認為對成年人也應該禁槍,除非特批。
我上麵的話是針對你以下的留言:
(I've trained my 2 boys how to safely operate handguns and rifles when they were 12! They've always known where I kept the guns in the house and taught in case of emergency to grab the gun before calling 911!
And of course, I have a carry permit!)
回複 '大榮確' 的評論 : “軍隊槍支設計的用途是殺敵人;民間槍支設計的用途是自衛、狩獵或者體育。沒有一種武器是設計用來濫殺無辜的。你的這位哲學家偷換概念的手段並不高明。槍能濫殺無辜不假,但卡車、飛機、球拍都可以用來濫殺無辜,但這些都是工具,使用工具殺人的人才是悲劇的根源。”很遺憾,你這些話就是道金斯所說的(我也同意的),是擁槍狂的各種論點中最最最愚蠢的論點,the silliest of all silly arguments。你最好能找點符合邏輯的理由來反駁我的觀點,而不是不斷重複這種silly argument。
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回複 '大榮確' 的評論 : 謝謝你指出被判的不是牧場主本人。我應該說的是那次的對峙事件中幾個積極參與者已經被判刑(而不是這個牧場主)。比如這位被判68年監獄:On Wednesday, one of 17 defendants being tried for their part in the 2014 standoff between supporters of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy and the Bureau of Land Management was sentenced to 68 years in prison. 我會修改我的文章中的這部分文字。謝謝你對這部分的指正。
The current Sheriff Scott Israel is a Democrat gun control supporter. In addition to ignored numerous reports on shooter from residents, he didn't take any action to provent shooting happen. During the shooting, he not only stopped 4 armed policemen from entering the school to neutralize the shooting first hand, but also delayed EMT people entering to save lives while those poor kids were bleeding and dying. Why ?
The only logic reason I can get is that the LEFT wanted to use children's blood to advance their gun control agenda.
CAIR LEADER NEZAR HAMZE IS NOW DEPUTY SHERIFF of Broward Sheriff’s Office (BSO)
First Jewish Sheriff of Broward County picks representative of terror group to wear gun and badge.
. The current Sheriff is Scott Israel; he was elected to office in November 2012. As Sheriff, Israel has made it a point to reach out to diverse crowds, including those who could be considered enemies of the U.S. and her allies.
Broward Sheriff Scott Israel’s 2015 radical Muslim tour began this past January, when he posed for photos with Sofian Abdelaziz Zakkout and a member of Zakkout’s Miami-based AMANA group at a local mosque. Zakkout is a big supporter of Hamas. On his Facebook page, one can find Hamas logos and photos of Hamas militants and leaders, including Hamas founders Ahmed Yassin and Abdel Aziz al-Rantisi and deceased Hamas bomb maker Yehiya Ayyash.
In July 2014, Zakkout organized a pro-Hamas rally held in Downtown Miami, where the crowd chanted loudly a number of anti-Jewish and pro-Hamas slogans. Zakkout is shown on video with a huge grin on his face, as his mob repeatedly screams, “We are Hamas.” Following the rally, Zakkout wrote in Arabic on his Facebook page, “Thank God, every day we conquer the American Jews like our conquests over the Jews of Israel!”
The third stop of Sheriff Israel’s radical Muslim tour, which took place this month, led him to the Darul Uloom Mosque, located in Pembroke Pines, Florida. Darul Uloom has ties to a number of high-profile al-Qaeda terrorists.
CNN 從良了 居然連登幾片內幕 大家去搜這個
How a first responder disregarded an order and saved a Florida school shooting victim's life
我就不懂了 哪個喪天良的會指派 救護人員da
把受傷的孩子 15歲以下 送到30mile路程的兒童醫院
而17歲就可以送到10mile路程的醫院!
哪個近送哪個啊 30mile 的開多久啊 殺人啊!
以孩子的 設身處地的為自己的孩子想一想
那個county 的警察得多喪盡天良!
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Deputy Sheriff, Nezar Hamze, is seen here teaching a mosque about the second amendment.
Nezar Hamze also works for CAIR.
Something stinks in Broward County. Broward 的警察Nezar Hamze,在教穆斯林美國的第二修正案-擁槍權。
On January 8, 2018, U.S. District Court Judge Gloria Navarro dismissed with prejudice the criminal charges against Cliven Bundy, his sons Ammon and Ryan, and co-defendant Ryan Payne regarding the standoff. At that time she also scheduled a February 26, 2018 trial date for "Tier 3" defendants Melvin Bundy, Dave Bundy, Jason Woods and Joseph O'Shaughnessy. On February 7, 2018, the federal government motioned the court to dismiss with prejudice the indictments against the remaining defendants "in the interests of justice."
I've trained my 2 boys how to safely operate handguns and rifles when they were 12!
They've always known where I kept the guns in the house and taught in case of emergency to grab the gun before calling 911!
And of course, I have a carry permit!
Forliberty99 發表評論於
不想孩子們、孫子們成為下一個mass killing的受害者
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95-97% of mass shootings happened in those places of gun-free-zone. Why ban AR-15s not ban/get rid of gun-free-zone laws ?
Nobody, no government can completely ban any type or all types of weapons. Because when there is demand, any weapon can be easily obtained by either purchasing illegally from underground market or from other countries or stealing from law enforcement and military forces, or simply making at home.
Harden our schools is the only way to protect our children, not take guns away from law-abiding citizen.
Forliberty99 發表評論於
加強控槍力度
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1.The gun-control laws can only regulate and limit guns from law abiding citizens but not from real criminals because criminals do not obey laws. So the result of tougher gun control will put more guns into bad peoples hands.
2. Those who want tougher gun-control laws are the same people who want open border, sanctuary states and cities to protect illegal criminals over law- abiding citizens.
So, what is your goal as a gun-control supporter ? Arm more illegal criminals to genocide all legal citizens then build a banana republic for your children and grandchildren?
Forliberty99 發表評論於
No-brainers never understand:
1. Withou evil people, guns can't come out to shoot people automatically by themselves?
2.Nobody,? no government can absolutely control/ban any type or all types of guns. Black market will be always there .?Partially control/ban only put guns into criminals ' hands.
3. Nobody,? no government can completely stop human trafficking, illegal gun trafficking even the border wall is built.?
4.Nobody, no government can completely stop illegal gun making. CHINESE farmers could make guns in 1950s, with CNC machine 3D print, evil people can make all kinds of guns easily here whenever wherever needed.?Criminals do not obey laws.
So , how safe will it be when criminals have all kinds of guns, but law abiding citizens have nothing
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From CNN - continue
Each listed police call has a unique identifying number, dispatch date and time, and description. The descriptions include mentions of a "mentally ill person," "child/elderly abuse," "domestic disturbance," "missing person," and more.
Records show that in 2016, a neighbor warned the sheriff's office of an Instagram post in which Cruz said he "planned to shoot up the school." This week, Joelle Guarino told CNN she placed the 911 call and had begged the sheriff's office to intervene. She was told there was nothing deputies could do until Cruz actually did something, she said.
November 1, the day his mother died, Broward Sheriff's Office received a call from Lynda Cruz's cousin, who warned deputies that Cruz had rifles and pleaded for them to "recover these weapons." On November 30, the sheriff's office received a call from a tipster in Massachusetts who warned them Cruz was "collecting guns and knives," and "could be a school shooter in the making." Records show the deputy "referred caller to the Palm Beach Sheriff's Office,"
Since the attack, which killed 17, there have been multiple calls for the sheriff, a Democrat, to resign from his elected post.
———-CNN 要從良啦
左棍們 咋辦?
It is really a "catch-22" situation! I don't see a real effective solution in near the future!
I'd put away all my guns only if you can deprive all guns from the criminals and the mentally ill people!
From CNN (leftist can say it now - fake news)
Sheriff says he got 23 calls about shooter's family, but records show more
Records obtained from the sheriff's office by CNN show the law enforcement agency received at least 45 calls for service relating to Cruz or his brother from 2008 to 2017, before the attack at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland on Feb. 14. The sheriff's office has insisted it received no more than 23 calls for service regarding Cruz or his family.
這些年豬黨犯下的槍擊案
2016. Democrat kills 49 in Orlando
2015. Democrat kills 12 in San bernardino
2013. Democrat kills 12 at Navy shipyard
2012. Democrat kills 26 in Sandy Hook
school
2012... Democrat kills 7 in Minnesota
2011. Democrat kills 12 Aurora movie
theater
2010... Democrat shoots Gabby Gifford
kills 12 in Arizona
2007 Democrat kills 32 at Virginia Tech
2003... Democrat kills 7 at lockheed-martin
Plant
2001.Democrat shoots at bush white
House
1999.Democrat kills 8 at Church Service
1995... Democrat kills 5 co-workers at Texas lab
1991.Democrat kills 23 at Luby 's cafe
Killeen, Tx
1990... Democrat kills 10 at GMAC office
1986.Democrat kills 15 at Oklahoma post
office
1984. Democrat kills 22 at mcdonald's
1983... Democrat shoots Pres. Reagan
1975. Democrat shoots at pres. ford
1963. Socialist shoots Pres. Kennedy
1865... Democrat kills Pres. Lincoln
GO AHEAD, FACT CHECK ME.
最愚蠢(這詞不是我選的)的一個理由是:除了槍,刀和車都能用作殺人工具,為什麽隻禁槍,而不禁刀、禁車?問出這樣蠢的問題的人,我必須說,如果不是惡意攪局,那他的邏輯或智力測試一定不及格。我同意著名的科學哲學家道金斯在其推特文中做的判斷:這是個最最最蠢的論點(the silliest of all the silly arguments of gun crazies)。我就直接借用道金斯的回複吧:“為什麽禁槍而不禁卡車?這一定是擁槍狂們各種愚蠢論點中最最最蠢的論點了。卡車是為了其它用途而設計生產出來的,比如作為交通運輸的工具。而軍隊的槍支,它唯一的用途就是殺人!”