世界銀行行長 我看到了中國人瘋狂的努力

世界銀行行長：“我看到了中國最瘋狂的事情”

World Bank Director: "I Saw the Craziest Things in China"

2024年11月16日  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCnMz0Kx2f8

毛主席執政後，他們發動了大躍進，然後又發動了文化大革命，消滅了社會上任何道德的跡象，因此他們用成功取代了馬雲的紅寶書，我並不嫉妒他們，因為他們非常勤奮和聰明，我抱怨的是，當你沒有道德核心時，你會做任何事情，所以我們幾個月前去了中國，我們住在一家不錯的酒店，我們去醫院看了看，如果她要在中國生孩子，那會是什麽樣的，那是外籍醫院，非常好，非常好，所以她感覺舒服多了，讓我們看看住房，住房是什麽樣子的，因為你知道，人們有一個形象住房是什麽樣的，日常生活在中國是什麽樣的，但當時中國有數百萬外籍人士，我的意思是數百萬，是的，所以今年是哪一年，對不起，是在 0405 時間範圍內，所以嗯，是的，我們去拜訪了一些我在那裏的朋友，他們過得很好，嗯，他們中的很多人都在跨國公司工作，而且生活得很好，當時包括我在內的每個人都認為中國會發展成一個大版的韓國或日本，隻是大 10 倍，看起來它正朝著那個軌跡前進，你知道我會說，現在我錯了，在某個時候，他們來了 180 度大轉彎，他們說現在輪到我們了，美國是我們實現全球霸權使命的障礙，這有點像就在那時，我有點逃離了矩陣，我從吊艙裏跳了出來，說，哇，等等，這是怎麽回事，這花了多長時間，我認為這是一個漸進的過程，當我第一次到那裏時，中國的每個人都非常有禮貌，非常友好，順便說一句，我一點也不懷有敵意，中國人是可愛的人，但我開始注意到，人們開始對待美國人和外國人的方式發生了某種轉變，起初，我們來這裏是為了學習，我們很謙虛，教我們關於你們的製造業，哦，等等，那台電腦是做什麽的，我的朋友注意到有些事情有點不對勁，所以我有一個朋友在通用汽車合資企業工作，他們的中國合資夥伴基本上偷走了一切，所以他們在工廠裏玩大猩猩戰爭，就像哦，不要看看那些服務器，不要看這個製造能力，接下來你知道的，中國創造了通用汽車的競爭對手，這家公司叫 Cherry，他們把雪佛蘭 Spark 的藍圖帶到了鉚釘上，創造了 Cherry 汽車，注意到雪佛蘭和 Cherry 之間隻有一點點區別，甚至連名字都不一樣，所以這開始發生了，嗯，嗯，情況變得更糟了，嗯，然後你看到的其他一些是什麽，我的意思是，我們有一個人，我在美國商會的財務委員會任職，我不會說這個人的公司來自哪裏，因為那樣不合適，但是一個人進來了，他是我們所說的美國一家大型製造公司的首席技術官，他在委員會裏和我們坐在一起說，你知道最奇怪的事情發生了我在酒店插入以太網，我的電腦就死機了，然後當我將它恢複時，我的硬盤是空的，我就像老兄一樣，你真的把你的硬盤和你所有的知識產權帶到了中國，嗯，當時沒有人真正想過這件事，嗯，但我每天都看到這種事情發生，嗯，我看到了中國最瘋狂的事情，你還看到了什麽，嗯，所以讓我知道你有沒有，我的意思是很明顯你對它的反應，你剛才描述了那個事件，但你怎麽知道他們從設備中吸取了所有的信息，而且，因為我開始和很多中國人發展關係，嗯，你知道，和他們交談，他們的經營理念是，如果它沒有被固定下來，我就會把它拿走，嗯，他們隻是讓我們免費獲得所有這些東西，謝謝，但有件事更根本的是，這就是毛主席執政後中國發生的事情，他們有一個叫做“偉大”的東西，然後他們進行了文化大革命，他們從社會中根除了任何道德的跡象，所以他們用成功、權力、成功取代了馬雲的紅寶書，那是他們當時的宗教，新的 G 神變成了 famo、Gucci、lvmh、成功、哈佛，嗯，當你擺脫了任何道德核心的束縛時，你會做任何事情來獲得成功、強大，你有 10 億 4或者說，14 億人都是為了熊而努力，希望能夠成功，我並不嫉妒他們，因為他們非常努力，非常聰明，但我的不滿是，當你沒有道德核心時，你會做任何事情，所以我們在中國有一個孩子，我們必須購買嬰兒配方奶粉，我的妻子說我們不買中國奶粉，你開玩笑吧，這裏有 2 億中國孩子，或者不管這個數字是多少，不，所以每次我去美國，我都會帶著兩箱雀巢好開端回來，她會買 Evan 水，我看著鈔票蒸發，覺得這是最愚蠢的事情，結果我想說，在 2007 年到 2008 年，中國嬰兒配方奶粉公司在嬰兒配方奶粉中添加了一種名為三聚氰胺的塑料，毒害了無數中國兒童，因為顯然三聚氰胺人工增強蛋白質，所以他們可以，所以他們可以，他們基本上是在偷工減料，使用傷害人類的化學物質，所以這聽起來像 FDA，我不知道，所以嗯，所以是的，我，我都見過，你知道，我被坑過很多次，如果我在中國沒有被坑，那一定有什麽問題，所以如果我在一項協議的簽字儀式上，這種情況不止一次發生在我身上，你去，假設你在中國某個隨機省份做一筆交易，嗯，真實的故事，我住過，我去了，我想這是在，嗯，是在達利昂，我不記得在哪裏了，但它是在，不是上海，不是北京，我住在這家叫做銀河和平飯店的酒店，我覺得很有趣，嗯，因為中國很多名字都很有抱負，盡管聽起來有點傻，所以我住在銀河和平飯店，它說歡迎著名的美國投資者埃裏克bethl 有這樣的標語牌，你知道，在燈光下，對吧，不管怎樣，第二天我去睡覺，我們在簽字儀式上，你走進一個走廊，有人拿著電視攝像機看著你，你有兩把椅子，非常氣派，一把掛著美國國旗，一把掛著中國國旗，市政府的領導團隊在那裏，你知道，來自這個市政府，我們要簽合同了，我看了看數字，看了看我應該和他做交易的人，那是我們應該支付的數字，他把它定為 X 加上 40%，我說兄弟，這是怎麽回事，他說哦，我們不得不在最後一刻改變事情，你同意嗎，我說不，但是每個人都在這裏，我們該怎麽辦，你必須簽字，我說嗯，然後我走了出去，所以我走出去，每個人都看著我，這很尷尬呃，我希望這不會引發什麽意外，所以我正要上車，那個人說，好吧好吧好吧好吧，我們會回到你原來的號碼哇，歡迎來到中國哇，這是現在每天都會發生的事情，每天都會發生的事情，不管你在哪裏看肖瑞安秀，如果你從中得到了什麽，請點讚評論訂閱，最重要的是，盡可能地分享，如果你覺得特別慷慨，請在 Apple 和 Spotify 播客上給我們留下評論

World Bank Director: "I Saw the Craziest Things in China"

2024年11月16日  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCnMz0Kx2f8

after Chairman Mao took over they had
this thing called the Great Leap Forward
and then they had the cultural revolution and they eradicated any
semblance of morality from society and
so they replaced Ma's Little Red Book
with success and I don't begrudge them
because they're very hardworking and
intelligent people the beef I have is
when you don't have a moral core you'll
do anything so we took a fact-f finding
trip to China a few months before and we
stayed at a you know a nice hotel we got
to see you know the hospital if she's
going to have a baby in China this is what it'd be like it's the expat hospital it was very nice very nice like uh and so she felt a lot more comfortable let's look at housing what does the housing look like because you know one has an image of
what housing is daily life is like in
China but at the time China had like
millions of expats and I mean Millions really yeah and so
what year is this I'm sorry it's in like
0405 time frame and so um yeah we went to uh to
visit some friends that I had down there
they lived very nicely um a lot of them
were on xat packages uh with multinational firms uh and and it was good it was very good living and it was at the time uh
where everybody myself included thought
that China was going to develop just
like a big version of South Korea or a
big version of Japan just 10 times
bigger and it looked like it was heading
in that trajectory uh and you know I'll say it
now I was wrong uh it at some point they
did a 180 and they said all right now
it's our turn and the United States is a
speed bump on our mission to Global
dominance and that's sort of that's when
I had my sort of escape the matrix
moment I popped out of my pod and said
whoa wait wa what's going on here and
how many how long did it take for that
to happen I think it was a gradual
Evolution when I first got there um
everybody in China was super polite very
nice and by the way I have no animus at
all uh the Chinese people are lovely
people but I started noticing kind of a
phase shift in the way um people began
treating Americans and foreigners
generally initially it was hey we're
here to learn we're very humble teach us
about your manufacturing oh wait what
does that computer do um and I had
friends that were noticing um things that were a little
off kilter so I had a friend that worked
at um a um a a joint venture of General
Motors JV where um their Chinese JV partner was
basically stealing everything and so
they were playing gorilla Warfare at the
factory like oh don't look at those
servers don't look at this manufacturing
capability well next thing you know
China creates a competitor to General
Motors uh the company was called Cherry
uh and they took the Chevy Spark
blueprints like down to the rivet and
created the Cherry automobile notice
that there's onlet difference between
Chevy and Cherry like even the name wow and so that was
starting to happen um and uh and it was
and it just got worse um then what are
some of the other ones that you saw well
I mean look we had a guy I was on the uh
finance committee at the American
Chamber of Commerce and I'm not going to
say where this guy's company was from
because that's it wouldn't be proper but
a guy came in and he was the uh Chief
technology officer for let's just say a
big Manufacturing Company in the
us and he sat down with us in the
committee and said you know the
strangest thing happened I plugged into
the ethernet at my hotel and my computer
just died and then when I resuscitated
it my hard drive was empty and I was
like dude really you brought your hard
drive with all your intellectual
property to China um and at the time nobody really
thought about it um but I saw this
happening every day every single
day um I saw the craziest things in
China what else did you see well um so did let me did you know
did you have I mean obviously you did
the way that you just described that
incident your reaction to it but how did
you know that they were sucking all the
information out of the devices and and
and kind of the because I started
developing relationship ships with um a
lot of folks in China um and um you know
talk to them and the operating
philosophy is well if it's not bolted
down I'm just going to take
it um they're just letting us have all
this stuff for free thanks but there's something more
fundamental and that is what happened in
China after Chairman Mao took over is
they had this thing called the Great
lead forward and then they had the
cultural revolution and they eradicated
any semblance of morality from society and so they
replaced Ma's Little Red Book which was
their religion at the time with success
power success and the new little G Gods
became famo and Gucci and lvmh and
success and Harvard and um um when you're untethered
from any sort of moral core you'll do
anything to become successful powerful
and you have a billion four or whatever
1.4 billion people who are just out for
Bear uh looking to make it uh and I
don't begrudge them uh because they're
hardworking very hardworking and
intelligent people but the the the beef
I have is when you don't have a moral
core you'll do anything so um here we are we've got uh a kid in
China and uh we've got to buy infant
formula and my wife says we're not
buying Chinese milk formula it's like
what you you got to be kidding me there
are like 200 million Chinese kids here
or whatever the number is nope so every
time I'd come go to the states I'd come
back with two suitcases of you know
Nestle Good Start and she would buy Evan
uh water and I'm just like watching
dollar bills evaporate thinking it's
like the stupidest thing and it turned
out I want to say in 2007 2008 that
Chinese infant formula companies were
putting a plastic called melamine in the
infant formula that was poisoning countless children in China
because apparently that melamine artificially beefed up the protein um so they could so they could they basically
were cutting corners and putting chemicals that were hurting people so this sounds like the FDA I don't know so um so yeah I i' I've seen it all I've been you know screwed over more
times uh if I'm not getting screwed over
in China something is wrong so if if I'm at the signing
ceremony of a deal and this it's happened to me on more than one occasion you go to Let's say you're doing a deal
in some random Province in China um true story I stayed at I went
to a uh I think this was in um was it in dalion I don't remember
where it was but it was it was in a not
Shanghai not Beijing uh and I stayed at this hotel
called the galactic peace hotel which I
thought was funny um because a lot of
the names in China are very aspirational
even though they sound sort of silly uh
to us so I stay at the galactic peace
hotel and it says welcome famous
American investor Eric bethl there's
like this placard you know in in in
lights right anyway I go to sleep the
next day we're at our signing ceremony
and you walk into a hallway and you have
guys with TV cameras looking at you
you've got two chairs it's very imposing
one with an American flag one with a Chinese flag the the municipal um leadership team is there you know for from this municipality and uh we're going to sign the deal and I look at the numbers I look at the guy that I'm supposed to be doing the deal with and it was like the number we were supposed to be paying X and he had like made it X plus 40% and I said bro what what's up with this and
he's like oh we had to change things at the last minute you're you're okay with it right and I said no but but everyone's here like what are we going to do uh you you have to you have to sign I was like uh-uh and I walked out and so I'm walking out everyone's looking at me it's very awkward uh I'm hoping this isn't going to cause an incident uh and so I'm about to get in my car and the guy's like okay okay okay okay okay we'll go back to your original number wow welcome to China wow that's a that's an everyday occurrence now everyday occurrence no matter where you're watching sha Ryan Show from if you get anything out of this please like comment subscribe and most importantly share this everywhere you possibly can and if you're feeling extra generous please leave us review on Apple and Spotify podcasts