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製裁俄羅斯:歐洲受到的打擊是否比俄羅斯更嚴重?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCA7Kf-NY9k
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他們把所有這些錢都捐給了烏克蘭戰爭,這可不好,你應該去看看,你覺得英國的物價上漲了嗎?製裁對我們的影響比對俄羅斯的影響更大嗎?製裁對英國產生了影響,毫無疑問,房租價格上漲了,所有商品價格都上漲了,這對我們這裏來說是個問題,這很困難,這讓生活變得更加艱難,讓我個人的生活變得更加艱難,我說不上來這對俄羅斯有多大影響,我不知道在當今時代,要真正了解別人國家的真相是非常困難的,有太多的虛假信息,我認為我們必須接受它對我們產生了影響,但我認為在俄羅斯,他們會遭受嚴重的損失,他們沒有必要,沒有理由增加居住場所的數量,是的,是的,就是他拿著那個鑰匙,拿著天然氣和汽油,不管他們拿著什麽鑰匙,讓這裏的人們受苦,這不是很好,這不是很好,你應該去,我不知道俄羅斯的情況,但我想普京在某種程度上保護了俄羅斯,所以嗯,你知道,在不了解太多的情況下,我會認為英國比俄羅斯更糟糕,嗯,是的,我個人對價格上漲的看法是,這很糟糕,物價已經這麽貴了,通貨膨脹,經濟中發生的一般事情,然後我們就把錢扔進去,扔進內戰,這隻會讓事情變得更糟,所以是的,不是不開心,我不能,我不能判斷,沒有評論,不能判斷,好吧,不,這一切都是注定的,注定會在疫情之後發生,你知道,這不一定與俄羅斯有關,俄羅斯工業在非洲和歐洲有很多土地共產主義結束後,許多東歐製造商因為非盈利或找不到足夠的市場而關閉,但現在,大多數東歐國家都有機會重新開始生產並賺取利潤,不一定一切都需要來自俄羅斯,

需要是俄羅斯,呃呃,與烏克蘭戰爭的關係,我可能比俄羅斯少,嗯,我的意思是,我不是專家,但我認為俄羅斯經濟肯定表現更糟,但我想說,嗯,說這裏的價格上漲是因為戰爭,

這是政府喜歡用來擺脫經濟問題困擾的借口,他們付出了代價,我完全不知道他們是汽油價格還是一般的生活成本,比如生活成本

嗯,我認為俄羅斯人可能正在經曆一段艱難的時期,俄羅斯的一般俄羅斯民眾也在經曆一段艱難的時期,嗯,我不知道這是否對我們的影響比他們更大,我們住在倫敦,那裏有世界上最受打擊的人,他們沒有受苦從這個意義上講,社會上最窮的人
最終會遭受最嚴重的生活成本損失,任何經濟危機,富人都不會變得更窮,嗯,真的很難說,我的意思是有很多因素在起作用,包括可怕的保守黨政府,是的,你為什麽這麽認為,因為我們麵臨著生活成本危機,天然氣價格上漲,電費上漲,人們買不起,他們沒有去食物銀行,如果買不起,就不得不關掉暖氣,他們把所有的錢都捐給了烏克蘭的戰爭,而俄羅斯人民對俄羅斯和烏克蘭到底發生了什麽一無所知,他們似乎認為這是好的,但很多人根本不知道發生了什麽,上帝知道我不知道,我不夠聰明,不知道這些事情,我不知道,這顯然對俄羅斯來說不是理想的,但我
認為他們會挺過去的,我認為普京一直在堅持一個特殊的軍事行動證明製裁可能還不夠,我認為他達成了一項協議,他最近實際上與印度總理舉行了會議,中國采取了中立立場,所以我認為他仍然可以與他們進行貿易,他們顯然是兩個大國,所以我認為從經濟上講,他們可能會經受住考驗,我不確定他是否真的在乎,你知道,任何依靠石油資助的國家都會遇到這樣的問題,那就是你基本上可以促進經濟發展,但實際上並沒有為人民創造任何生產力,比如實際增加工作效率,所以我認為這對他們造成了沉重打擊,但可能沒有做他們應該做的事情,我真的不知道,說實話,汽油有一段時間很糟糕,但我覺得它現在已經緩和了,是的,我對此了解不多,說實話,沒有評論,我認為從長遠來看,這對俄羅斯人民來說會非常糟糕,但不是那麽多,我的意思是俄羅斯可能仍會增加他們的硬實力或軍事力量,因為他們可能擁有最大的比如世界上的硬實力體係,包括所有軍事人員、坦克和一切,但我認為對於俄羅斯人民來說,情況肯定會變得更糟,因為有這樣的獨裁者,我的意思是,他肯定表明他不在乎人民,他所關心的隻是增加他的軍事力量和他在整個歐洲的統治,是的,嗯,當然,如果我覺得他得到了什麽,就像俄羅斯從中獲益一樣,如果說我們失去了什麽,你知道,每個人的生活都變得越來越艱難,生活成本將永遠是一個問題,他們現在才剛剛引入它,但它一直是一個問題,所以比俄羅斯更甚,不,我不認為是這樣,我不認為他們對我們的影響比俄羅斯更大,但你是否感覺到製裁的影響,是的,價格上漲,我的意思是是的,但我不知道
這是否專門針對俄羅斯
或者我們已經走出了疫情,
生命也在增加,嗯,我認為
這是一個世界性的問題,嗯,我們隻是需要看看
一切,重新調整和
思考事情,是的,當然它影響了
我們,但我們需要重新思考,我們不能隻依賴某些國家,是的,
最糟糕的是,現在他真的沒有逃生的
地方,就像
他現在基本上是一個戰犯,所以不,他不可能真的回去
然後真正民主地當選,或者像他這樣
隻是他必須繼續做他正在做的事情,嗯,是的,你剛才說的
我認為最可悲的事情之一是
現在所有國家可能
都必須擴大他們的軍隊,
我個人反對大
軍費開支,所以我認為這很可悲
現在就像是的軍事預算可能會增加,而且我認為這在俄羅斯是一個非常有爭議的問題,因為我有俄羅斯朋友,我記得他們說,他們的祖母就像巴布什卡一樣,他們仍然是普京的忠實粉絲,嗯,你知道,我認為這就像代溝,就像老年人已經非常固定了他們的方式,而年輕人則非常沮喪,我認為這太過分了,你知道,太多了,就 MoneyWise 而言,你要支付兩倍的費用,比如過去 50 便士,現在是 100 便士,100 便士,你知道我無法判斷這一點,但我確實認為生活成本的上升幫助我們理解了我們必須如何擺脫對石油的依賴,我認為生活成本的大幅上漲是我們離開我認為歐盟已經影響到了我們,我認為人們很難理解物價上漲對俄羅斯人民的影響有多大,我不知道石油等物價上漲對生活成本危機的影響有多大,我很難說我沒有去過俄羅斯,至少從我所看到的情況來看,任何來自俄羅斯的媒體都沒有偏見,我認為俄羅斯永遠不會成為可靠的能源,而且這種事情總是不可避免的,嗯,這不是真的問你的問題,所以不,我不這麽認為,我認為俄羅斯比我們更有效,然後你的個人經曆,你覺得受到了影響,是的,不,我認為一切都上漲了,我覺得現在很難看到一家商店的銷售額超過 10 美元,所以它隻是一些小東西,比如你肯定會注意到,呃,不會比他們影響的更多,我不認為你可以比較這兩個,因為這是兩個不同的,非常不同,但我確實認為這對大多數人、家庭等都有很大的影響,但你認為誰比他們在俄羅斯那邊更糟糕,我不認為我們對生命的恐懼和那裏一樣多,我對此了解不夠,無法回答這個問題,我的意思是,能源危機、供暖和冬天的所有這類事情都是任何人都可以談論的,但公平地說,我不知道製裁對俄羅斯的影響有多大,反過來說,我不得不承認,如果我真的認真地想想,是的,英國的戰爭,我不會稱之為戰爭,對烏克蘭的攻擊對世界經濟有直接影響,所以我認為這本身就是一個問題,如果你考慮到事實上,我們剛剛走出疫情,很多公司都遭受了損失,所以我認為還有很多其他因素,這些因素可能造成我們目前處於困境,不僅僅是俄羅斯,但我認為他們確實發揮了重要作用,我們可以製造自己的磷,我們自己的化學品來給土地施肥,是的,烏克蘭很大一部分被征服,沒有生產,但還有其他國家可以維持這種局麵,例如巴西、美國、法國、西班牙、埃及,很多國家可以維持世界,不一定是這樣,是的,全球一直都有戰爭,但在疫情之後,很多呃
製造商已經關閉,所以這是
價格上漲和
通貨膨脹的另一個聯係,不一定是一切
都與俄羅斯與烏克蘭的戰爭有關
是的

製裁俄羅斯:歐洲受到的影響是否比俄羅斯更嚴重?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCA7Kf-NY9k
StreetTalk中文版


they're giving all this money away to
the war in Ukraine that's not nice you
should go to do you think of the price increase in
the UK did the sanctions affect us more
than they did in Russia well the sanctions have affect the UK there's no
doubt about that rent prices have gone
up prices and all Goods have gone up and that's problematic for us here
and it's difficult it makes life harder
made life personally harder for me I
can't say how hard it's affect Russia or
not I don't know it's very difficult in
this day age to to really know truth
about someone else's country so much
disinformation I think that it's something that we've just got
to accept that it has affected us but I think within 
Russia they will be suffering badly and
they have no need there's no reason to
increasing the places in the living
places yeah yeah that's that's he hold
put he hold that key for the gas and the
petrol whatever they hold the key make
people suffering in here that's not nice
that's not nice you should go to h i I
don't know the situation in Russia but
um I imagine Putin's have protected
Russia to some extent so um I you know
without knowing much I would assume that
the UK is worse off than Russia um and
yeah my personal opinion on the price
increase is that it sucks uh prices are
already so expensive uh with inflation
and just general General things going on
in the economy and then we just Chuck in
Chuck in a civil war it just makes
things a lot worse so yeah not not not
happy I can't I can't judge no comment
can't judge okay no it's all it meant to
it meant to happen after covid you know
it's not really NE necessarily related
to the Russian Uh Russian industry there's plenty of land in Africa in
Europe after communism a lot of Eastern block manufacturers got shut
down because of nonprofit or they didn't
find enough markets but now it's opportunity for most of the Eastern
European countries to to start producing
again and uh make profit not necessarily
everything needs to come from Russia it
needs to be a Russian uh uh relation to
the war in Ukraine I would probably less
than Russia um I mean I I'm not an expert but I think the Russian economy
is certainly doing worse but I would say
that um saying that you know the price
increases here are because of the war is
an excuse that the government likes to
use to get out of trouble for the problems economic problems that they've
cost I have absolutely no idea uh were
they gas prices or just that general
cost of living like yeah cost of living
um I think the Russians are probably
going through a hard time the Russian
general Russian population are also
going through a hard time um I I don't
know if it's affected us more than them
we're living in London which has got
some of the most affer people in the
world and they don't suffering from this
it's it's always the poorest of society
who end up suffering the most during
this cost of living well any kind of
Crisis financially and the rich don't
get any poorer um hard to say really um
I mean there's so many things at at play
including a dread Dreadful Tory
government yes why do you think so
because we've got this cost of living
crisis where the gas going up the
electric going up people can't afford it
they haven't go to food banks having to
keep the heating off if they can't afford it and they're giving all this
money away to the war in Ukraine and the Russian people are kept
in the dark from what I can understand about what is actually going
on in Russia to Ukraine they seem to
think it's yeah it's fine but a lot of
them they have no idea what's going on
God knows I don't know I'm not clever
enough to know that stuff I I don't it's
obviously not ideal for Russia but I
think they will weather it and I think
the fact Putin's just kept going with a
special military operation is evidence
that the sanctions probably aren't enough I I think he made a deal he
actually had a meeting with like India's
prime minister really recently and China
taking a neutral stance so I think he'll
still be able to trade with them and
they're obviously two massive countries
so I think econom ially they'll be they
they will probably weather it and I'm
not sure he really cares you know like
that's the problem with any country
that's just sort of oil funded is you
can basically um just like boost an
economy without actually producing any
productivity for the people like
actually increasing work of productivity
uh so I think it is hitting them hard
but probably not not doing what it needs
to I don't really know to be honest petrol was bad for a while
but I feel like it's mellowed now yeah I
don't know enough about about that to be
honest no comment I think in the long
term it's going to be quite bad for for
just like the Russian people not so much
I mean Russia will probably still increase their like hard
powers or their military because they
have probably one of the biggest like
hard power um systems in the world with
all the military personnel and the and the tanks and you know
everything but I think for the Russian
people it's definitely going to get a
lot worse cuz with a dictator like that
they I mean he's definitely shown he
doesn't care about the people all he
cares about is just increasing his
military power and his um uh domination
across Europe yeah uh definitely um if
anything I feel like he's gaining it's
like Russia gaining from this if
anything we're losing you know um life's
only getting harder for everyone
and cost of living that's going to be a
problem forever now they've only just
introduced it now but it's been an issue
so more than Russ no I don't think so I don't think
they've affected us more than Russia but you've have you felt impacted
by the sanctions yeah by the price
increase I mean yeah but I wouldn't know
if that's specifically to do just Russia
or out we've come out of the pandemic as
well increase in just life um I think
it's a worldwide thing um we just sort need to look at
everything and sort of readjust and
rethink things and yes of course it has affected
us but we need to rethink we can't just
rely on certain countries and yeah and
the worst thing is now he doesn't really
have like an escape an escape pad like
he's basically a war criminal now so no
it's not like he can really go go back
on this and actually get elected
democratically or anything like he's
just he's going to just have to keep
doing what he's doing um and yeah what what you were saying
like one of the saddest things I think
is now all countries are probably going
to have to expand their militaries a bit
and personally I'm against like big
military spending so I think it's sad
that now just like yeah military
budget's probably going to go up and
also I think it's like a very divisive
issue in Russia like because I have
Russian friends and I remember they
saying like their grandmas they're like
Babushka saying like they're still B
massive fan of Putin and and um you know
I think it's like a generational Gap
right like where the old people have
very setting their ways and the young
people are just so frustrated I think
it's pretty it's a oh too much you
know uh too much in terms of what
MoneyWise and you're paying twice
what something like 50p for like past
now 100 P 100 P you know I wouldn't be
able to judge on that but I certainly
think the rise in the cost of living has
helped us understand how we've got to
get away from Reliance on oil and I
think the greater rise in the cost of
living has been our leaving the European
Union I think they have affected us and
I think it's it's difficult for people
with prices going up how much they've
affected people in Russia I don't as in
increasing like oil and stuff like that
the cost of living crisis effectively I
it's hard to say I'm not out in Russia
and it's kind of hard to like for me at
least from what I've seen to kind of see
any media come out of Russia that's not
kind of have a biased some way I think o is is never going to be a
reliable source of power anyway and
something like this is always inevitable
um that's not really ask your question
so no I don't think so I think I think
russer is more effective than than we
are and then your personal experience
you feel affected by it yeah yeah no
definitely I think everything's gone up
I feel like it's kind of hard to see a
shop now that go over like 10 so it's
just stuff small stuff like that you
notice for sure uh not more than they're
affecting I don't think that you can
compare the two cuz it's two different
very different like but I do think that
it's a big impact on most people
families Etc but do you think who wor s
than they are over there in Russia I
don't think I don't think we're fearing
life as much as there I don't know
enough about that to answer that I mean
the
energy crisis and heating and all that
kind of stuff in winter is all that
anyone can talk about but um to be fair
I don't know how badly the sanctions
have affected Russia going the other way
I have to admit that um if I think about
it really and truly um yes the war in UK the I w't call it a
war the attacking into Ukraine has a direct
impact on um um on the world economy and
um so I think that in itself was an
issue um also if you consider the fact
that we just came out of covid a lot of
companies suffered so there are loads of
other factors I think that could um play
uh um into the reasons why we are we we
are at the moment not just um the Russia
but I think they do play big factor
there we can make we can make our own
phosphor our our own chemicals to
fertilize the land and yes it's a big
portion of Ukraine that is conquered and
is not producing but there is other
countries that can they can sustain that
Brazil for example United States of
America France Spain uh Egypt plenty of countri that can sustain the
world not necessarily that yes it's it's
always been Wars around the around the
glob but after covid a lot of uh
manufacturers have shut down so that's
another link to the price increase and
the inflation not necessarily everything
has to do with Russia fighting Ukraine
yes

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無法弄 回複 悄悄話 我感覺英國物價還可以,但我確實不能代表很多英國人,我工作的地方,很多英國人很窮,靠食物銀行生活,他們基本上不是原著英國人,都是移民。電、煤費用有些高,對窮人來說可以申請補助,申請蔬菜水果的票證,還有各種補助,比如會有幫他們免費修冰箱、洗衣機什麽的。所以烏俄戰爭對窮人的變化不大,對中產變化大,因為中產沒有補助,隻有付出,富人就不要說了,那點錢不值一提。本人覺得還是要支持烏克蘭,靠一己之力肯定不行,要靠民主國家一起來,因為如果靠犧牲一個主權國家贏得片刻的和平,這不會長久,這會助長侵略國越來越囂張,2014年克裏米亞失陷,民主國家沒有進行實質的製裁,導致了今天的烏俄戰爭。
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