"醫學和法學並不是那麽難學"---不是吧,花的時間最長,投資的錢最多,也最難學.這種是應用科學,要有很高的IQ和EQ.物理、數學還有計算機是理論科學,跟數字,跟圖形,跟機器相關,不用跟人打太多交道,會背,會記,會理解,會舉一反三就可以了.談到人際應變能力,處理問題的方式,不如醫,法多矣...
Good in Math, Physics and Computer needs to be smart in logic reasoning, abstract imagination. I do not see learning Medicine needs much IQ, they only need good memory. You think Medicine is difficult because of "人際應變能力." I can see Auto-sale-person needs more "人際應變能力," do you mean learning to be Auto-sale-person is more difficult?
我說的是新法案。The Act created a 5-year waiting period before new immigrants can access "Federal means-tested public benefits" and required that a person petitioning for an alien's admission must sign an affidavit promising financial support to the alien. 你剛來就買了OBAMA 的保險?
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[回複]:你說的是聯邦政府的資助,你說的和我講的不是一碼事。我這裏講的是一個移民的父母或親戚來探親,用自己的錢來買保險,而不是接受聯邦"Federal means-tested public benefits"
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Are all employer group health insurance policies the same?
Many people don't realize that health insurance is issued differently for different types of employers,and that, because insurance is regulated at the state level of government, the laws regarding health insurance offered by the different types of employers can vary significantly from state to state. Millions of Americans work for small employers, which for health insurance purposes are generally those with 50 employees or less. Millions of other Americans get their health insurance coverage through large employers. Generally, those are business with more than 50 employees. The laws about how coverage can be issued to large groups are different than those for small groups, and the way that premium rates are determined is also different. The requirements for sole proprietors purchasing health insurance coverage also vary on a state-by-state basis.
What are the coverage requirements for small employer plans?
Federal law mandates that no matter what pre-existing health conditions small employer group members may have, no small employer or an individual employee can be turned down by an insurance company for group coverage. This requirement is known in the insurance industry as “guaranteed issue.” In addition, each insurance company must renew its small employer health plan contracts every year, at the employer's discretion, unless there is non-payment of premium, the employer has committed fraud or intentional misrepresentation, or the employer has not complied with the terms of the health insurance contract.
In most states, small employer health insurance companies are allowed to look back at individual group applicants medical histories for pre-existing conditions and may decide not to cover certain conditions for a specified period of time. This is known as an exclusionary, or a pre-existing condition, waiting period. Federal law states that small group health insurance companies may impose no more than a six-month look-back/12-month exclusionary period for pre-existing conditions, but individual states can reduce these time periods. Small group insurance companies are also required to give employees credit for prior coverage against any pre-existing condition waiting period that may be imposed, as long as the employee had other health insurance coverage within 63 days of the application for new coverage.
For more information about your state's coverage requirements for small group employer health plans, please see NAHU's Health Care Coverage Options Database.
If you have a preexisting condition that can be excluded from your plan coverage, then there is a limit to the preexisting condition exclusion period that can be applied. HIPAA limits the preexisting condition exclusion period for most people to 12 months (18 months if you enroll late), although some plans may have a shorter time period or none at all. In addition, some people with a history of prior health coverage will be able to reduce the exclusion period even further using “creditable coverage.” Remember, a preexisting condition exclusion relates only to benefits for your (and your family’s) preexisting conditions. If you enroll, you will receive coverage for the plan’s other benefits during that time.
Although HIPAA adds protections and makes it easier to switch jobs without fear of losing health coverage for a preexisting condition, the law has limitations. For instance, HIPAA:
· Does not require that employers offer health coverage;
· Does not guarantee that any conditions you now have (or have had in the past) are covered by your new employer's health plan; and
· Does not prohibit an employer from imposing a preexisting condition exclusion period if you have been treated for a condition during the past 6 months.
沒有支柱性產業,沒有能源,國內不能自給,供需失衡,消費過度,越到後麵問題越多.這個時候隻能打一戰,才能救美國,但是不能打,08也不敢打.小小一個儐蠟鄧,小布什花了整整八年,麻煩如春筍,層出不窮.這就是要做世界警察的代價.Team America, World Police? Not any more.
aloevera 發表評論於
回複918918的評論:
XZ1980 has made it very clear to your question unless you did not read it. Let the market decide how many doctors we need and how much they should be paid. This is free market! There shouldn't be any control in how many doctors we should have.
aloevera 發表評論於
回複tai不明白的評論:
This is what I want to say. XZ1980 has pointed to the root of the problem.
XZ1980 發表評論於
回複tai不明白的評論:
Very good point. The government should not allow Drs' union to limit number of Drs allowed in this country to get high salary. If the Drs still whine, let the government pay their tuition. It is better to pay them 4 years than 30 years. In a short run, we should import Drs from top hospitals in other countries. The medicine market has to be deregulated. Otherwise 美國早晚要葬送在自己供奉富養的醫療手上.
回複918918的評論:
Let me give you one more example. If you allow Boeing to decide how many aircraft makers should exist on this earth. For sure Boeing will say Airbus is a junk should not be allowed in the market because of public safety. Once Airbus is killed, I am sure you will pay double the price but get worse airplanes because Boeing knows that you have nowhere to buy. That is why we pay 3-4 times Drs than in other developed countries but ranked last in average life and baby birth defects in developed country.
XZ1980 發表評論於
回複918918的評論:
What you mean the incentive, they have to be a good Dr to get high salary, this is good for them and good for patients. They should not be allowed to get high salary by limiting Drs' supply.
There are a lot of things dealing with human being. E.g., Brakes and wheels in a car are life threatening. Do you want auto-mechanics to form an union to limit number of auto-mechanics allowed to work in this country to make sure the all auto-mechanics are smart guys. If you allow this happen, I am sure your oil change price will be tripled in no time. You will have more problems with wheel and brakes because they know that you have nowhere to go. If you want to do oil change yourself, you need pay them for prescription to buy oil and filters. That is exactly what happen in Medicine.
武勝 發表評論於
說得好,美國今天更陽光了。
918918 發表評論於
回複XZ1980的評論:
If there is no incentive, who want to work his tail off to be a doctor? You tell me!
So you need bare-ffot doctors. If the care is for everyone, and affordable, and good quality, and decrease deficit? No such thing.Not even one county hospital is making money, that the most closest one to Obama's care.
You are dreaming.
By the way, doctors are taking care of human beings, it's not like a mechanic shop.
I understand your point, but looking at the whole picture, it's impossible.
XZ1980 發表評論於
回複918918的評論:
Obama just need romove Drs hands from controlling Drs' supply. Free market will take care of the rest. Anytime the patients compete for the Drs, there will be crisis.
XZ1980 發表評論於
回複918918的評論:
Because Drs Union limits number of Drs in US in order to get high salary, we have to wait long time for emergency slot with high cost.
With more Drs supply,the market can choose good Drs during the practice, they have to compete other Drs to be in the business. Like in the manufacturing the tech development, free market and the competetation change the world.Currently,once someone becomes Dr, they have no pressure from other Drs because there is not enough.Therefore, they do not need to so good work. Without competition nothing will work. Wall Street myth is already broken. Next myth to be broken is US Drs.
XZ1980 發表評論於
回複918918的評論:
You have to let market to determine how many Drs to be in the market and how much to be paid. You cannot control the supply of Drs to get high salary. It is like you open a store then limit total number of this kind of store to be opened. This is criminal.In free market like any business, if you surgeon thinks paid too low, go out of business. Then the price will go higher, more Drs will be in the business. This is the healthy market. By the way, do not brain wash the public about malpractice premium cost, according a study by University of Chicago, that is about 5% Dr income. American pay more than 10 times premium on car insurance. Who cares how much debt you get, like every profession, if you do not think it is worth to go to medicine, do not go there, then the income for that profession will be higher because of less supply. Then people will go there because of higher income. By the way, a medium income of a surgeon will make well above half million a year, what is $200 k debt versus income?
918918 發表評論於
回複918918的評論:
Maybe Obama should think about train tons of bare foot docs to cut the cost.
918918 發表評論於
回複XZ1980的評論:
Even you have urgent or emergent conditions, you have to wait, because you are HMOs. Current HMOs still is better than Obama's care.
You probably hate the long wait in DMVs, but if you have cancer, you need several referals to see the specialist to get the correct diagnosis, if lucy enough, it's still operatable, you need to wait months to get an OR slot.You survived the complications of sugery from not-so-sharp surgeon (because smart ones don't want to be doctors). Hope you can still like Obama's care by then!
我說的是新法案。The Act created a 5-year waiting period before new immigrants can access "Federal means-tested public benefits" and required that a person petitioning for an alien's admission must sign an affidavit promising financial support to the alien. 你剛來就買了OBAMA 的保險?
If you pay a cadiothoracic surgeon 100k/yr, who want to be in med school 4 yrs, and 10 more yrs in residency and fellowship training? when training is done , on average, each physician has 200k in sudent loan debt, and at the same time, high premium of malpractice insurance?! If doctors are over supplied, comprised care is a sure thing. Did you know how many patients a family doctor need to see a day to maintain 150k/yr? 25-30! This number will be more, if medicare cuts the paymeny further.
Give you another example, for incisional hernia repair, medicare pays $500 totally for everything, but the mesh will cost $500, how can the surgeon survive?
XZ1980 發表評論於
回複9203792008的評論:
There are a lot of debates on the high healthcare cost in US. People blame insurance company, others blame pharmaceutical companies. Actually, the root problem is Drs themselves. Why, because they deliberately limit number of Drs allowed to work in this country. This way they can keep their salary high. Every Dr to practice in US need to have residency in this country even if you practice in other country in many years. What Drs union (American Medical Association) do is to limit number of residency slots available. This way they limit supply of Dr with the purpose to keep their salary high. That is a big crime. They inflated the price of healthcare. Not only they looted from the public, they are responsible for 40,000 death of uninsured and under-insured.
The thing also make me angry is that the corrupted government and congress allowed this happen for more than hundred years. Itself is a joke to allow Drs themselves to decide how many Drs in this country. Any reform without get rid of Drs’ union on the controlling the Drs’ supply, will not work.
to 918918: How do you know "they are happy with their insurance"? I, for one, am not happy with my insurance at all, and I know many of my American colleagues share the same sentiment. The premiums have skyrocketed over the short past 10 years and the benefits keep shrinking year after year.
There are so many crooks in this healthcare food chain who have no value add but live off the premium contributions from the hard working Americans. This corrupt system must be reformed. I may end paying more. But an equitable, efficient health system will only make this world a better one for all.
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說的很好!
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有人提出懶蟲的觀點。我認為部分正確,在其它場合可能適用,但不適用於醫療保險,因為再勤勞的人也架不住生病,這一點隻有當你有這個經曆時才會有深切的體會。看看Michael Moore 的“SiCKO ”吧,那裏有很多的例子。
918918 評論於:2010-03-23 14:10:59 [回複評論] 刪除
mamamia99, why you can't see this socialism rocks the foundation of this great country. Why you left China to the States? Why you want your kids to grow up on this free land? Because opportunities from competition, that is the best way.
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我一點也沒覺得這次改革有什麽社會主義的因素,即使有,那也是好的因素。為什麽要形而上學地認為有社會主義因素就一定是洪水猛獸呢?
第一關,大學GPA(即所有大學課程成績分數的平均點)總分一般情況下不得低於3.65。也就是說,申請人的大學本科的各科考試成績基本上要是A。美國大部分大學評判學生成績采用A,B,C,D四個等級。A是4分;B是3分;以此類推。同時,還有A-(3.7)、B+(3.3)、B-(2.7)之分。GPA越高就越具有競爭性。
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35 大 中 小 遊客留言 IP: 69.118.x.x 2010/3/24 07:18
(.com) 醫生的收入是用血汗換來的,是有點高,但是值得。
四年本科,四年醫學院苦讀,加上學費。
平均4年的住院醫訓練,每周工作60至70小時,年薪僅4萬美元。
如果再做專科訓練,加3至4年。平均31至32歲畢業,開始還債。
沒有高工資,沒有高質量。但是與Wallstreet 和CEO們比,九牛一毛!大部分錢讓保險公司,藥物公司,律師們拿走了,你我隻有出錢的分。
Lengths of Some Residencies
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All surgical specialties 5+ years
Obstetrics and Gynecology 4 years
Family medicine 3 years
Pediatrics 3 years
Emergency Medicine 3-4 years
Psychiatry 3 years
Read more: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/medicine/education-faq/part2/section-4.html#ixzz0j2oBOtZw
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Some people have knee-jerk reflex when they hear government heavy-handedness. The merit of government involvement should be determined by the outcome only. We should look at the hard facts. The healthcare of America today is EXPENSIVE, inefficient and patient unfriendly.
As a nation, we spend more on healthcare PER CAPITA than any other rich nations in the world. This is a broke system and must be changed.
Obama's prescription is not a panacea. But it is the bitter pill we have to take to get this country back on track.
mamamia99, why you can't see this socialism rocks the foundation of this great country. Why you left China to the States? Why you want your kids to grow up on this free land? Because opportunities from competition, that is the best way.
田園樂 發表評論於
說的有理。
jjj7 發表評論於
support 918918's point. We leave China to move to US is to get a better life here. We work hard to make more money and already paid more tax for the country. Ob is trying to go to a socialist and make everybody evenly (poor in the long run). He is going it for his own polical gain and not for the ecomony for the country.
to 918918: How do you know "they are happy with their insurance"? I, for one, am not happy with my insurance at all, and I know many of my American colleagues share the same sentiment. The premiums have skyrocketed over the short past 10 years and the benefits keep shrinking year after year.
There are so many crooks in this healthcare food chain who have no value add but live off the premium contributions from the hard working Americans. This corrupt system must be reformed. I may end paying more. But an equitable, efficient health system will only make this world a better one for all.
85% American people have health insurance, and they are happy with their insurance. Because WE working hard, we have earned this benefit. If you believe health insurance is a huamn right, then it will be abused big time is near future. Sky high deficit, 70% tax for every middle class, maybe 80% to our children. Anyway, 2012 is not too far away, let's go to hell together!
$250,000 for joint couple?! We are not rich people. We have to cut expense to make all ends meet. The thing is after tax and morgage, almost nothing left. No way you can send kids to private school.
Quite soon, immigration reforms. Omaba needs more votes. We are working so hard for them, yeah, 很多都是懶蟲.