回複五維的評論:
Sorry, 五維 Mei Mei, yesterday I was too busy to discuss with you. I think your consideration is reasonable. Jia Lan is a character who can become either good or bad. A good novel probably will always have some potential links here and there, so that audience can use their imaginations while reading.
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回複jiajia07的評論:
Was writing to you and lost my sofa #1 :-)
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回複jiajia07的評論:
It's out!
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回複jiajia07的評論:
It will be the longest ten min. I have experienced.
I guess this coming chapter will answer many questions.
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回複jiajia07的評論:
"Should be in another 10 min."
oh,dear! how do you know that? jiajia!!
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回複我似浮雲獨自遊的評論:
Great. Some of your previous sentences sound like a naughty boy...lol.
Should be in another 10 min. Hold on. Then you could go to sleep soundly :-)
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回複jiajia07的評論:
I am also MM
It is time for Miao meimei post the next chapter?
I am so sleepy.....
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我猜測:賈蘭是去戰場見水溶,但卻被敵人圍攻,是水溶救了他。
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回複sissidream and datuzi的評論:
I also support Miao Mei Mei publish the story into a well-packaged book!
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回複我似浮雲獨自遊的評論:
Yeah, it's a sister ID. Let me ask, are you a MM?
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回複五維的評論:
"容我胡說"
We think you are speaking with reasons :-) Our multi-dimensional thoughts and discussions allow everyone to think more and have more fun. Please go ahead!
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回複五維的評論:
"賈蘭的可塑性也較大"
Agree. Actually, there is only one line between an angel and a devil. In general, a person may choose any road when there is a fork in front of him.
We say Jia Lan should be good, from Miao Mei Mei's previous chapters, meaning that we are guessing Miao Mei Mei's intention.
I would like to add one more evidence:
In "二十九、聞訊", "這時就見朱英匆匆跑進來,見了紫鵑劈頭就問:“見賈蘭了麽?”" and "朱英拍了下腦門子道:“壞了,這個孩子,..."
Please also pay attention to Zhu Ying's selection of word "孩子". If Zhu Ying suspects Jia Lan, or already knows that Jia Lan is bad, I guess he would not have chose the word.
Also, "朱英匆匆跑進來""問""紫鵑". If Zhu Ying is monitoring Jia Lan, he won't have to rush to Zi Juan to ask, even forgetting that he should not let Dai Yu hear about it.
So, from Miao Mei Mei's previous chapters, it seems that, again, Jia Lan should be good.
However, there is one place that may or may not deserve attention. In this chapter, "讓朱英看著賈蘭去", Shui Rong said. Miao Mei Mei didn't use the word ZHAO KAN; she used "看著", which is a word with two possible explanations.
So, let's see. I would say, Jia Lan's good:bad = 9.9:0.1. But still, there is 0.1 there...lol.
回複datuzi的評論:
I'd like to contribute, either to "buy the copyrights" which I am not sure because I don't know what Miao thinks, or just support Miao, her beautiful works deserve to be published.
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Sorry there is a typo,
last year an investment group BOUGHT Toysrus, Babysrus, Kidsrus?
Not "brought", my fingers were flying without asking brain.
About !*****出書*****! and回複sissidream的評論:
I had planned to initiate this topic during miao Mei Mei's spring break. Since it is already brought up here, we just start from here. miao MM, have you contacted with any publishers? at least I think you should go for it. It is more enjoyable for readers to keep a book than to browse.
Another way depends on our readers. Recall last year an investment group bought Toysrus, Babysrus, Kidsrus? We interested readers can organize to buy Miao's copyrights (we can ask her to make the ending beautiful, haha!) and then seek publishers.
Any thoughts, JM(XD)?
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About !*****出書*****! and回複sissidream的評論:
I had planned to initiate this topic during miao Mei Mei's spring break. Since it is already brought up here, we just start from here. miao MM, have you contacted with any publishers? at least I think you should go for it. It is more enjoyable for readers to keep a book than to browse.
Another way depends on our readers. Recall last year an investment group brought Toysrus, Babysrus, Kidsrus? We interested readers can organize to buy Miao's copyrights (we can ask her to make the ending beautiful, haha!) and then seek publishers.
lol. I 100% agree and support datuzi Mei Mei's wonderful proposal!!!, using my both hands and both feet! :-)
Miao Mei Mei, that will be an innovation!
"Miao妹妹,隻有你是看熱鬧的啦。"
This is like, we go to Miao Mei Mei's theatre to watch the play; and she watches us from the balcony :-) (somehow feel like Xu Zhimo's Zai Bie Kang Qiao...lol)
回複wumiao的評論:
Many many thanks :-) Thanks Miao Mei Mei's wonderful story; so that I and other sisters have the strong interests to read carefully and discuss. Thanks to sisters; so that I can feel so much fun participating in the discussions and continue.
Applaud! Miao Mei Mei has agreed to offer us more chapters!!! Thanks a bunch!
Please don't push yourself too hard. We understand you also have your everyday life, your career, your family with your husband and your kids. Now we have formed a "community of practice" with common interest and we enjoy very much reading and guessing and analyzing and discussing. Of course we always look forward to your new chapters. But while waiting, we are having fun too. To tell you the truth, this is the first time I don't feel that impatient. I typically don't like to follow chapters. Waiting always drive me crazy, especially for the story I love. This is the first time I feel that the waiting time is also beautiful.
In one word, we really appreciate your fantastic story and thank you very much!
Thanks very much for your encouragements :-) It has been a great pleasure discussing with you. Moreover, along with our discussions, we are having more fun with the story :-)
回複jiajia07的評論:
Your point is a very good one! Thank you! And I do have a lot of fun reading and discussing on this story! Thank you guys and many thanks to Miao too!
Agree with datuzi: I also wanted to say: "Excellent writer and reader!"
Jia Jia's point made me think more. I read the recent chapters again and I also found one thing which is against my own doubts about 賈蘭: he is improving with martial art very fast!
In the 29th chapter, 賈蘭道:“我跟師傅學了很多東西,如今我自己可以和三個王府護衛交手,隻贏不輸,和師傅徒手相搏,十回也能撂倒他三回,不信你問師傅。”
If he was a spy and under monitering, ZhuYing wouldn't have tought him much. So, I give up my suspicion toward 賈蘭。I think I missed some details about 賈蘭. I cared more for DaiYu and Shui Rong. I was not as careful as you guys. :) Now I believe he is a good guy and hope all is well with him.
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回複jiajia07的評論:
Excellent writer and reader!
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回複五維的評論:
Many thanks for the discussions. I believe we all have a lot of fun from these discussions.
One reason I don't think Zhu Ying considers Jia Lan is a spy is as follows:
In Chapter "二十九、聞訊",
"朱英在旁邊接道:“若隻是平常送信,可以讓你去,可是前麵已經是一片血海了,人死傷無數,連一個中軍大將也死了---”黛玉定睛望向朱英:“你說什麽?”朱英見自己說漏了嘴,就打了自己一個嘴巴,伏地不說了。"
If Zhu Ying thinks Jia Lan as a spy, I think he will not act as above. (He didn't want to expose the situation to Dai Yu, since it might be dangerous for Dai Yu to know about all those. That's what everyone tries to hide from Dai Yu.) He will be much more prepared to block Jia Lan's actions. Also, he would not let Jia Lan flee away, since he would monitor Jia Lan's actions.
So in general, from the previous chapters, I kind of not thinking Jia Lan as a spy. Anyway, that's just my opinion. Welcome for more discussions. Maybe I miss something.
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I just had some discussions with Miao Mei Mei. I think Miao Mei Mei is very careful on details - really appreciate!
Dai Yu is pregnant at the beginning of August. The army started in early September ("隻因王爺不日就要出京" still can mean 20 days), when Dai Yu just had her 2nd-month period and Shui Rong's Mom asked her about it. Then Miao Mei Mei explained that "十月下旬到達西北王家莊" (it took a while for the whole army to move to the front), then it is almost 3-month pregancy. Then several days after the New Year's Day, it could be explained that Dai Yu had a little more than 5 months' of pregnancy. Then after another two months or more, 7.5-month pregnancy is fine.
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I could be wrong. But the threads that miaomiao MM paved for "賈蘭is a spy" is too vague to be true, not like Miao's usual style.
Have you watched "Saving Priate Ryan?" It took bloody experiences to turn a normal person into a hero, such as the interpreter. 賈蘭 was a Shu Sheng in the beginning.
But again I could be wrong though...It is just not very persuasive to make "賈蘭is a spy".
In Chapter "二十五、繡鞍", "離京的時候太妃問過我,太妃說那個如果還在,就---我說那個,那個還有". "夫人不知,是因為在第二個月上來了些許月信,俗稱早見紅。" It seems that before Dai Yu and Shui Rong started, she is at least 2-month pregnant.
In the same chapter, "夫人腹中已有了三個月的身孕。" That happens just after they arrived at the front. So at that time it would be some time in September.
In Chapter "二十一、衷情", "隻因王爺不日就要出京,王府中忙的人仰馬翻。過完中秋..." So it seems that they started not much later than the Mid-Autumn Day.
In "二十七、朱紫", "算算黛玉已經是中期的五個多月的身子了". That is around the New Year - I guess it is about lunar calendar.
From Mid-Autumn's Day to the New Year's Day, there are about 4 months and a half. Even if we consider Dai Yu just entered the 2nd month before started, say end of August, she should entered at least the 6th month around the New Year's Day.
Then after two months when the baby was born, the baby should be at least 8 months. So the kid should be all fine.
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回複五維的評論:
"至於賈蘭,我仍心存疑慮"
There are two possibilities:
1) he is good: He is still alive: "讓朱英看著賈蘭去". He probably is badly wounded; and he gave the knife to Shui Rong.
2) he is bad: still possible. "讓朱英看著賈蘭去" may also explain as asking Zhu Ying to monitor him. However, unless there is a definite reason, it is difficult to see why Jia Lan went to kill Shui Rong, after Dai Yu refused his proposal as a messanger.
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回複五維的評論:
"每個剛生過孩子的媽媽都希望老公孩子時刻在身邊吧。我所認識的媽媽們在美國的產房裏大都選擇rooming-in,老公雖然不是同床,卻也睡在旁邊的床上。想來王爺的寬宅大院條件隻會更好吧。這樣安排很溫馨."
--True, at least for me. Miao must have shared the same feeling.
"至於賈蘭,我仍心存疑慮."
--I cannot see an issue with 賈蘭 so far. Let's wait for Miao meimei's development.
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回複datuzi和海棠花的評論:
Agree with you two!
Especially about 1, 每個剛生過孩子的媽媽都希望老公孩子時刻在身邊吧。我所認識的媽媽們在美國的產房裏大都選擇rooming-in,老公雖然不是同床,卻也睡在旁邊的床上。想來王爺的寬宅大院條件隻會更好吧。這樣安排很溫馨.
回複明豔如我的評論:
至於賈蘭,我仍心存疑慮.如果他是好人,估計拚死保護王爺,自己卻已經不在了,因為黛玉給的刀到了王爺手上.如果他是壞人,王爺身上的血跡估計有他的"功勞". 不過賈蘭不是主要人物,隻要水溶黛玉和他們的孩子平安,我就放心了.
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回複海棠花,datuzi的評論:
Agree with 1. Miao Mei Mei doesn't have to explicitly write how Shui Rong and other people make sure no bacteria will hurt Dai Yu and the new baby. But those things will be done for sure. There are very experienced people around.
Agree with 2 generally. Dai Yu formally buried about Bao Yu and their past. In the future, she will live for Shui Rong and the kind, and mostly importantly, for herself, as she said in Chapter 16, "如今我已經不再埋怨東風了,更不自嗟,活一天,我便活出我的樣子來..."
For 3, agree with datuzi, when Dai Yu recovers, she could ride the horse. Because anyway, Shui Rong specially bought for her. Meanwhile, it is half a person high. It will be several years before Wan Er could ride the horse :-)
For 4, datuzi Mei Mei is right, things will be different at another time. However, 海棠花 Mei Mei is also right, since Shui Rong loves Dai Yu so much, he would not like anything to remotely have the chance to hurt Dai Yu. So another Wan Er may or may not come :-)
For 5, agree with datuzi Mei Mei. Miao Mei Mei wants to emphasize how Shui Rong cherishes Dai Yu. The baby is the extension to their love and life. But the people are the most important. As Miao Mei Mei mentioned several times in the previous chapters, Shui Rong emphasized several times, he doesn't care whether the baby is a boy or a girl; all he wants is Dai Yu's health first. Also, his energy is completely exhausted from the battle (blood everywhere around him) and the worry about Dai Yu earlier. So at that moment, he was so released by Dai Yu's back. All he wants is to take a rest. And he needs a rest. He could enjoy the baby together with Dai Yu when they wake up.
Look forward to the next Chapter.
Many thanks again to Miao Mei Mei.
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回複海棠花的評論:
Nice prediction! Strongly agree with 1 and 2.
about 3, it could be 萬兒 belongs to "horse" zodiac animal.
about 4, "生萬兒,差些要了黛玉的命": the main reason is the danger and the worst war period, and 黛玉 had thought Shui Rong had died. She did not gather any strength to fight for her baby and intended to give up her life. If this had happened again when Shui Rong were around, life were peaceful and lovely, 黛玉won't do this.
about 5, "為甚麽水溶不看看孩子?" miao might emphasize Shui Rong's love for 黛玉. He did not spend much time during 黛玉's pregnancy, and almost wanted to kill himself if something had happened to 黛玉. So it could be the case that he wants to watch the baby when 黛玉 wakes up.
So Shui Rong is just back for a couple of hours? Jia Lan saved Shui Rong; gave Shui Rong the knife; Jia Lan was badly injured; Shui Rong also took him back?
煙雨鏡中花 發表評論於
實在是寫得太好了.
jiajia07 發表評論於
Earlier due to network issues, I think Miao Mei Mei uploaded the chapter into wenxuecity first. I did occupy the sofa there. Then I have to go to classes. And afterwards, when I rushed to Miao Mei Mei's home, a whole room of sisters :-)
This chapter is really enjoyable. Many thanks to Miao Mei Mei!
回複datuzi的評論:
Agree!
Miao mei mei is THE professional writer.
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回複sissidream的評論:
Thanm you!
And I am laughing too!
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頂!寶玉就這麽走啦?這算是跟過去的生活徹底的告別,開始幸福的新生活嗎?
pinkkiwi 發表評論於
聽了老和尚的歌,也真擔心呐, 水溶回京一定要被關天牢了!
miao mei mei ,就不要讓他們回去了, 就去那個萬城隱居吧, 啊?
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miao Mei Mei, thanks for the hard work! This is one of best episode so far. I had thought how you could describe Dai Yu gave birth, but you picked an elegant way. professional writer!
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回複pinkkiwi的評論:
You are welcome. And I really like this one, I can't keep from smiling:
不管他, 王子也好, 世子也好, 隻要是我們期待的林妹妹的仔就好!
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回複sissidream的評論:
sissidream is so generous! not like me, who was wild of joy and only wanted to compensate jiajia...
雪冰月 發表評論於
不過至少水溶回來了, 孩子也出世了, 大家也就先鬆了口氣.
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回複sissidream的評論:
thank you!
and 不管他, 王子也好, 世子也好, 隻要是我們期待的林妹妹的仔就好!