APAD: A bad penny always turns up

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What's the meaning of the phrase 'A bad penny always turns up'?

A disreputable or prodigal person will always return. More generally, this proverb refers to the recurrence of any unwanted event.

What's the origin of the phrase 'A bad penny always turns up'?

This proverb has lived long in the language. It derives from the notion that some coins were 'bad', that is, they were debased or counterfeit.

Bad pennyThe 'clipping' of coins was rife in the Middle Ages, long before standardisation of the coinage was reliably enforced. This example from the reign of Edward I shows the degree of 'badness' that pennies then endured.

The term 'bad penny' was established enough in English by the late 14th century for it to have been used in William Langland's famous prose poem The vision of William concerning Piers Plowman, 1370-90:

Men may lykne letterid men... to a badde peny.

The expression continued to be used and, by the 18th century, the proverb as we now know it began to find its way into print. An example is found in 1742 in Henry Fielding's translation of Aristophanes Plutus:

This [the phrase ‘A very bad stamp’] is literal from the Greek... It was a Metaphor taken from their Money. We have a Proverb in English not unlike it, a bad Penny.

What made whoever coined this proverb link bad pennies with the notion of something unwelcome returning isn't now clear. Perhaps it was the sense that, if you clip or pass on a bad penny, it won't be long before it comes back to you in your change. Our present day expression of that would be 'what goes around comes around'.

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what goes around comes around… -盈盈一笑間- 給 盈盈一笑間 發送悄悄話 盈盈一笑間 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/06/2023 postreply 07:39:06

Did 7G share the similar info. with different proverb before -盈盈一笑間- 給 盈盈一笑間 發送悄悄話 盈盈一笑間 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/06/2023 postreply 07:40:00

The chickens come home to roost? -盈盈一笑間- 給 盈盈一笑間 發送悄悄話 盈盈一笑間 的博客首頁 (124 bytes) () 12/06/2023 postreply 07:42:45

記得這個,今天這有怕什麽來什麽的意思吧? -衛寧- 給 衛寧 發送悄悄話 衛寧 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/06/2023 postreply 07:50:50

這個中文翻譯挺貼切。是不是都隱含因果循環的意思?:) -盈盈一笑間- 給 盈盈一笑間 發送悄悄話 盈盈一笑間 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/06/2023 postreply 07:59:48

不覺得,比如怕下雨結果就下雨了。當然如果非要想因果,那就因果吧:)) -衛寧- 給 衛寧 發送悄悄話 衛寧 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/06/2023 postreply 08:22:23

what goes around comes around…說的是這句呀:)) -盈盈一笑間- 給 盈盈一笑間 發送悄悄話 盈盈一笑間 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/06/2023 postreply 08:28:10

The chicken shows up on time. The penny does too, only less -7grizzly- 給 7grizzly 發送悄悄話 7grizzly 的博客首頁 (24 bytes) () 12/06/2023 postreply 09:28:06

妙答~~ -盈盈一笑間- 給 盈盈一笑間 發送悄悄話 盈盈一笑間 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/06/2023 postreply 12:53:52

這句話有點“善有善報”的意思,而“bad penny。。。”卻是禍不單行。 -唐宋韻- 給 唐宋韻 發送悄悄話 唐宋韻 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/06/2023 postreply 09:13:08

我這個人,不相信命運、不相信輪回、不相信積德與報應、不相信來世、不相信緣分。。。 -唐宋韻- 給 唐宋韻 發送悄悄話 唐宋韻 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/06/2023 postreply 09:19:13

Stay disbelieving is a great achievement in a world that -7grizzly- 給 7grizzly 發送悄悄話 7grizzly 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/06/2023 postreply 09:53:56

keeps trying to force stories down our throats. -7grizzly- 給 7grizzly 發送悄悄話 7grizzly 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/06/2023 postreply 09:55:56

My disbelief started when I was a young kid without a reason -唐宋韻- 給 唐宋韻 發送悄悄話 唐宋韻 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/06/2023 postreply 10:05:24

Endowed with a gift :-) -7grizzly- 給 7grizzly 發送悄悄話 7grizzly 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/06/2023 postreply 14:45:13

這世上冥冥之中有很多事情,是人不能掌控的。對未知的,持敬畏之心,沒錯的。敬畏,是智慧的開端。 -盈盈一笑間- 給 盈盈一笑間 發送悄悄話 盈盈一笑間 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/06/2023 postreply 18:26:41

So writers are bad pennies: disreputable or prodigal :-) -7grizzly- 給 7grizzly 發送悄悄話 7grizzly 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/06/2023 postreply 09:32:19

福無雙至,禍不單行 -Zhuzitaba- 給 Zhuzitaba 發送悄悄話 Zhuzitaba 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/06/2023 postreply 10:16:27

埋下禍害的種子,遲早要爆發。 -天邊一片白雲- 給 天邊一片白雲 發送悄悄話 天邊一片白雲 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/06/2023 postreply 17:50:51

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