美國老土和各位大俠,明早和老板開會,緊急需要建議

來源: 職場小女子 2009-09-01 16:37:46 [] [舊帖] [給我悄悄話] 本文已被閱讀: 次 (4723 bytes)
我就是上周五電話會上那位學會計、和韓國同事爭project lead的女童鞋。

事情是這樣的。我已經不可能爭到做唯一的project lead了,她絕對不會讓步,我隻想要老土說的中策(做平等co-leads). 但這位韓國同事連co-lead也不想我沾,處處想一把抓,很多worldwide level的事務想自己處理了,以便最大限度地拿credit, 等我知道時她已經做完. 因為她到處發email說她是ww lead, 我是她的support, 很多人就隻跟她聯係,我根本沒有信息。以下是我倆的一些emails. 我最後一封email後她沒回音,1小時後我收到老板的meeting invitation, 要明早和我倆談how to handle WW and Geographies. 顯然,韓國人背後把我告了。老板是上個月新來的。(順便說一句,老板今天生日,這個韓國人買了蛋糕到辦公室來為老板慶祝,比我會來事。)

TS=老板
NH=韓國人
KD=公司總部的WW Accounting Lead

我發的第一封email,copy韓國人
Hi, KD,

FYI. NH and I divide up this deal by geo. She will do US and AP, I will do Europe. Please invite both of us to your accounting related calls.

韓國人立馬回了一封email:
Hi, KD,

Just for clarification to avoid email traffic in case, I am the WW lead for ABC project (like John was for XYZ project) and working on US and AP as well. So I will be the project WW focal for any WW questions.


我回了一封email, copy KD.
NH,

I should be on copy for all ABC project accounting issues for awareness, specially when it is WW and affect Europe, even though it is not Europe specific. That should be the way a team work.


完了後我覺得有必要好好談談,於是就寫了以下email, 隻發給她,沒有copy任何人.
Hi, NH,

I feel necessary to clarify each other's capacity and how we should carry out the project. I am sure you want to gain as much experience as you can from this project, so do I. My intent is to learn the max I can learn by doing this project. We don't have to mimic exactly the same way John and Annie ran XYZ project as everyone has different objective to achieve in doing a project. The bottom line is as long as we run the project successfully (we will), I am sure TS will support a way that can benefit both of us the most from a learning perspective.


1. You will handle US and AP issues (That is, US and AP issues should go to you)
2. I will handle Europe issues (That is, Europe issues should come to me, not to you first)
3. We should jointly handle WW issues (My involvement is essential, as stated in my previous note. Things like account mapping, I should be involved early on. We can divide up the work if you like)
4. Since Europe has 2/3 of the entities, if you would like to handle the general project management work (like setting up meetings, sending agenda, recording minutes, maintaining task plan), that's fine with me. That would even out the workload a little. Of course I will not leave all the work to you!


By title, we all do WW (i.e. WW Coordinator). KD is the WW lead. You and I are a joint team. If you want to handle all the WW issues by yourself, then you don't need me, you just need an entry level help.

Let me know if you want to discuss further. We can talk in person if you prefer.......


一看到老板的meeting invitation就知道她背後把我告了,估計她把我的email給老板看了(估計是take out of context 式的,不是整個email)。想想老板介入也好,趁機說說我要什麽, 否則韓國人什麽都抓在她手裏。

想老土和各位大俠給點建議,明早該怎樣和老板還有韓國人談才能最大限度地拿到我想要的。因為老板是新來的,不太了解他會站那邊。可是因為韓國人先告狀,並且拿去年的XYZ project來做例子,老板有可能站她那邊。我該怎樣談?我自己能想到的是:
Be calm, don’t get emotional. Be professional.

1. When I took the project, my understanding was that we would work jointly as co-leads. It was not clearly communicated to me that one as lead and the other as support.
2. I have been in this dept for 2 yrs. I have successfully completed 4 small to medium size acquisitions. I am ready to gain experience from a big project. Big project doesn’t come all the time. This big project is important for me as it is for NH.
3. I want to be involved and jointly handle the WW issues as it affects Europe. I will learn thru resolving the issues. If I am only involved in handling Europe issues, I won’t learn as much as I hope to. I had already handle Europe before. I would like to bring my knowledge and skill to another level when I get out of this project.
4. I would be happy to work out a way with NH that we both can learn the max, rather than one person gains more experience, the other gains less.
5. I want my capability to be fully utilized. I want to contribute more to the project than just being a support.

想老土和各位大俠我還該說什麽?有什麽地方說得不對的嗎? 大謝!

所有跟帖: 

寫的蠻好的,不要退讓 -真是土包子- 給 真是土包子 發送悄悄話 真是土包子 的博客首頁 (20 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 16:54:34

補充意見:不要怪自己。 -真是土包子- 給 真是土包子 發送悄悄話 真是土包子 的博客首頁 (297 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 23:48:59

if i were you, let her lead this time as ww leader -世界無童話- 給 世界無童話 發送悄悄話 (234 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 16:56:53

all emaill you send to her, should cc to your boss -世界無童話- 給 世界無童話 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 17:03:38

回複:美國老土和各位大俠,明早和老板開會,緊急需要建議 -平凡小事- 給 平凡小事 發送悄悄話 平凡小事 的博客首頁 (425 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 17:15:41

最後一句至理名言啊。 -goyo- 給 goyo 發送悄悄話 goyo 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 17:28:34

可是才兩年就這樣,老板就隻能無奈地笑笑,當然要說先談談吧。這個 -眼冒金星- 給 眼冒金星 發送悄悄話 眼冒金星 的博客首頁 (246 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 18:19:09

嚴重同意,你可以說contribute the most and benefit the most,但 -veggiedoggie- 給 veggiedoggie 發送悄悄話 (470 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 18:50:35

老板和我明早的calendar都滿了,沒法在3人會之前單獨談, -職場小女子- 給 職場小女子 發送悄悄話 (56 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 20:29:51

Good point,"You can learn as you work. But don't SAY it out loud -clinton-2007- 給 clinton-2007 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/02/2009 postreply 17:58:44

我若是你,那封單獨寫給NH的信是絕對不會寫的。 -豬啊豬- 給 豬啊豬 發送悄悄話 豬啊豬 的博客首頁 (294 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 17:16:31

重點中的重點都被你給說出來了。她把自己的想法居然還 -眼冒金星- 給 眼冒金星 發送悄悄話 眼冒金星 的博客首頁 (126 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 17:22:00

唉,孩子還小,需要我們大人的幫助。。 你可不能袖手旁觀阿。。 -豬啊豬- 給 豬啊豬 發送悄悄話 豬啊豬 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 17:25:12

你的意思是要我做第三者插foot的事?那多影響我的名和聲啊。 -眼冒金星- 給 眼冒金星 發送悄悄話 眼冒金星 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 17:28:39

一般女人才當小三的,你怎麽也有此心?? -豬啊豬- 給 豬啊豬 發送悄悄話 豬啊豬 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 17:33:50

鳩山有繼婦因為插足都當上首相了,那我還不跟著學學。 -眼冒金星- 給 眼冒金星 發送悄悄話 眼冒金星 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 17:40:22

有日本的強國之路是中國之幸。強中更有強中手。江湖是曆練出來的。 -眼冒金星- 給 眼冒金星 發送悄悄話 眼冒金星 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 18:02:03

i don't think so...no need to cc boss all the time -真是土包子- 給 真是土包子 發送悄悄話 真是土包子 的博客首頁 (102 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 23:51:40

It depends.For some major issue,you should let your boss know. -clinton-2007- 給 clinton-2007 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/02/2009 postreply 18:06:26

Dont listen to 美國老土 ... -全信書- 給 全信書 發送悄悄話 全信書 的博客首頁 (866 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 17:28:41

百家爭鳴哈。。 -豬啊豬- 給 豬啊豬 發送悄悄話 豬啊豬 的博客首頁 (227 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 17:33:08

此事極易。。。 -全信書- 給 全信書 發送悄悄話 全信書 的博客首頁 (186 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 17:56:25

笑。。 笑。。 個。。。P呀。。 -豬啊豬- 給 豬啊豬 發送悄悄話 豬啊豬 的博客首頁 (249 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 18:34:20

Sigh: 孺子不可教啊. ~.~ -全信書- 給 全信書 發送悄悄話 全信書 的博客首頁 (282 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 19:03:43

好。我去看看。謝謝啦。。 姆~~罵~~一個。。 -豬啊豬- 給 豬啊豬 發送悄悄話 豬啊豬 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 19:06:12

全XX,新老板剛來要的是穩定,她是心有餘力不足。沒力道。誰都不 -眼冒金星- 給 眼冒金星 發送悄悄話 眼冒金星 的博客首頁 (36 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 17:36:11

I agree to you.It is secret for your career success:make a deal -clinton-2007- 給 clinton-2007 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/02/2009 postreply 18:20:59

email中的一些用詞和語氣不妥. 如: -小謀- 給 小謀 發送悄悄話 小謀 的博客首頁 (769 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 17:50:22

說得很好,謝小謀!我那5點理由英文用詞需要改進嗎? -職場小女子- 給 職場小女子 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 17:59:40

你在這個部門兩年了,韓女士幾年了? -眼冒金星- 給 眼冒金星 發送悄悄話 眼冒金星 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 18:08:35

她3年,可是她在這3年間生了2個小孩,休產假,所以隻做了2個 -職場小女子- 給 職場小女子 發送悄悄話 (96 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 18:33:18

Ok,她暫時負責了。 -眼冒金星- 給 眼冒金星 發送悄悄話 眼冒金星 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 19:47:18

下麵是我的建議: -小謀- 給 小謀 發送悄悄話 小謀 的博客首頁 (1543 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 18:29:46

真太感謝小謀子了!建議都非常好。我開始也很猶豫,因為知道 -職場小女子- 給 職場小女子 發送悄悄話 (412 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 21:02:51

這樣的人一定要和她鬥,否則你日子更難過 -真是土包子- 給 真是土包子 發送悄悄話 真是土包子 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 23:53:12

完了後我覺得有必要好好談談, -胡說之- 給 胡說之 發送悄悄話 胡說之 的博客首頁 (203 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 18:21:14

my suggestion... -HappyNow?!- 給 HappyNow?! 發送悄悄話 HappyNow?! 的博客首頁 (482 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 18:21:56

Thanks for the encouragement! -職場小女子- 給 職場小女子 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 21:04:42

如果我是你的話, -宜凡- 給 宜凡 發送悄悄話 (431 bytes) () 09/01/2009 postreply 21:05:10

能不能分享一下開會的結果? -u_boat- 給 u_boat 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/02/2009 postreply 15:59:20

Yoru boss should be more clear on who is the lead -Cathy_Bay- 給 Cathy_Bay 發送悄悄話 (629 bytes) () 09/03/2009 postreply 05:47:01

Thanks, Cathy_bay! -職場小女子- 給 職場小女子 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/03/2009 postreply 23:30:41

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