smith342008-04-27 07:30:51回複悄悄話
to: 猷子
u better go hang urself, that would save you from ur depression,
猷子2008-04-25 19:27:27回複悄悄話
回複laojie and smith34的評論:
我沒有意思說西方社會就是完美社會,就沒有人權問題,就絕對民主自由。隻是相比而言,西方社會有基本人權,基本的民主自由。我們沒有必要要拿西方社會做楷模,也沒有必要去過多關注西方人怎樣看待中國。我們應該把眼光用來關注中國自身的發展。這個發展並不僅僅是經濟,而是包括人權,法製,民主和自由。中共總是以發展經濟為由來否定人權,法製,民主和自由。正是由於中國沒有人權,法製,民主和自由,經濟發展所創造的大部分財富都隻進了少數人的腰包,而且自然環境遭受嚴重破壞,後人的生存空間都麵臨嚴重威脅,而且中國那個社會已經腐敗頭頂了,“呼吸著汙染的空氣,吃著假貨毒物,喝著無論如何也淨化不了的劣質水,還要提防被人算計,盯著漲價的肉,擔心著股票,一天數遍的檢查防盜窗門,夢裏還要抓緊設計發財的路數。”這樣的經濟發展可取嗎?另一個問題是,是不是我們有了基本的人權,法製,民主和自由之後,經濟發展就會受阻?辦奧運會靠的不僅僅是經濟實力,而是需要尊重奧林匹克精神。奧運史上那些褻瀆奧林匹克精神的奧運會,比如希特勒1936年的奧運會和1980年的蘇共奧運會,無論是主辦者還是參與者,都付出了慘重代價。
smith342008-04-25 09:39:40回複悄悄話
to: 猷子
something to think abt, read this:
http://news.wenxuecity.com/messages/200804/news-gb2312-581611.html
did i just tell u?
smith342008-04-25 06:48:55回複悄悄話
and 猷子 also tried to tell everyone that he is a proud chinese, who is upset with a hopeless government.
b.t.w. if anybody sees he sides with anti china demonstrator in public, then you may want to 將his家庭地址公開
smith342008-04-25 06:45:04回複悄悄話
to: laojie
well, my dear comrade, i am just trying to tell you that its the chinese government that ruin everyone's image, not cnn, not abc, its the uncapable government.
smith342008-04-25 06:43:43回複悄悄話
and just to let you know, the chinese government just agreed to meet dalai lama's representative, so the government is meeting the separitist (death penalty in china) for meeting???? where is everyone's logic here?
laojie2008-04-25 06:42:42回複悄悄話
回複smith34的評論:
If you are waiting for an answer to your quesiton from either a scum bag, or thugs, you can keep waiting for a long long time since no body fits the lable. Well, you can try to provide one yourself.
smith342008-04-25 06:35:17回複悄悄話
to: 夢見前生
according to chairman mao, you are avoiding fighting with the enemy, so the ABC slap on your face and you get angry at me??? u loser....
smith342008-04-25 06:23:34回複悄悄話
to: laojie
well i am not calling u thugs, there is no need to get high on me, you scum bag, i am calling u scum bag only.
i am just asking what you think and what you will do to ABC????
smith342008-04-25 06:21:04回複悄悄話
to: 猷子
bro, in australia, caucasions can easily get away if they did wrong things to minorities and aboriginals, have heard and seen a few cases.
whilst in china, if you hurt minorities, then you will be in deep shit coz the government wanna show they look after the poor and disadvantaged. and if minorities killed chinese, they probably get away from that like the caucasions in australia.
personal views only here......
laojie2008-04-25 05:42:44回複悄悄話
回複smith34的評論: correction -- 1.3 billion people in the wrong direction
not 1.3 people.
Only thugs call 1.3 billion people thugs. Here is something for you to think about: A crazy guy was driving on a highway, he turned on radio and heard a warning about someone driving in the wrong direction. The crazy guy said to himself, what do they mean someone is in the wrong direction? there are 1.3 billion people in the wrong direction.
laojie2008-04-25 05:38:50回複悄悄話
回複smith34的評論:
Only thugs call 1.3 billion people thugs. Here is something for you to think about: A crazy guy was driving on a highway, he turned on radio and heard a warning about someone driving in the wrong direction. The crazy guy said to himself, what do they mean someone is in the wrong direction? there are 1.3 people in the wrong direction.
smith342008-04-25 05:08:29回複悄悄話
well, in the us, the guy called chinese thugs is under pressure, so here we go again, another media calling chinese thugs, so what you do? or u only care abt who started calling u thugs?
smith342008-04-25 05:06:48回複悄悄話
well, its public media's critism abt you thugs, i am asking u what you are thinking! u thugs....
夢見前生2008-04-24 19:22:54回複悄悄話
回複smith34的評論:
Thugs never care about you or ABC's bullshit. Who do you think you are?
smith342008-04-24 19:01:19回複悄悄話
search google news about "china", then u will find:
"Pro-China thugs 'assaulted relay spectators' ABC Online".
ABC here is Australian Broadcasting Corporation. so what do you thugs think now?
CuriousChimpanzee2008-04-24 11:47:08回複悄悄話
"達賴喇嘛也無法說服全部藏人(oversea ZD"
If he even has no influence on the small numbers of oversea ZD, how can he represent all people in Tibet? One of these must be a lie. He either is a person nobody caring to listen or he controls some population, especially the oversea ZD followers. Do you believe him? He is just trying to avoid the responsibility for the violence and any possible terror actions. I think he is a double face person. Remember, he never denounces the riot in Tibet and the terrorist threats by oversea ZD.
smith342008-04-24 07:10:37回複悄悄話
search google news about "china", then u will find:
"Pro-China thugs 'assaulted relay spectators' ABC Online".
ABC here is Australian Broadcasting Corporation. so what do you thugs think now?
smith342008-04-24 05:20:57回複悄悄話
the woman in the second photos did not wear undies, very tibetan style
smith342008-04-24 05:18:21回複悄悄話
search google news about "china", then u will find:
"Pro-China thugs 'assaulted relay spectators' ABC Online".
ABC here is Australian Broadcasting Corporation. so what do you thugs think now?
woshiwo20062008-04-24 05:18:10回複悄悄話
WE LOVE TIBET口號在悄悄的變
揚子江酒店2008-04-24 01:55:10回複悄悄話
讚一個!真為澳洲華人驕傲!
但普通澳洲人的反應還是很讓人擔心,今天下午Courier來拿東西,看到中國人就提‘It's all your friends in Canberra's fault',還好老板(西人)和大家都不答話,他也覺得無趣。不過有這種思想的西方人太多了,他們根本不了解西藏也不了解中國,西方傳媒牽著他們的鼻子走。英文網站也有很多西人留言攻擊中國的。
覺得中國要改變形象不是一朝一夕的事,還有很長的路要走,隻有祖國強大才能根本改變西方人的觀念。
dallan2008-04-24 01:41:53回複悄悄話
good and moved by you, my brothers and sisters!
u better go hang urself, that would save you from ur depression,
我沒有意思說西方社會就是完美社會,就沒有人權問題,就絕對民主自由。隻是相比而言,西方社會有基本人權,基本的民主自由。我們沒有必要要拿西方社會做楷模,也沒有必要去過多關注西方人怎樣看待中國。我們應該把眼光用來關注中國自身的發展。這個發展並不僅僅是經濟,而是包括人權,法製,民主和自由。中共總是以發展經濟為由來否定人權,法製,民主和自由。正是由於中國沒有人權,法製,民主和自由,經濟發展所創造的大部分財富都隻進了少數人的腰包,而且自然環境遭受嚴重破壞,後人的生存空間都麵臨嚴重威脅,而且中國那個社會已經腐敗頭頂了,“呼吸著汙染的空氣,吃著假貨毒物,喝著無論如何也淨化不了的劣質水,還要提防被人算計,盯著漲價的肉,擔心著股票,一天數遍的檢查防盜窗門,夢裏還要抓緊設計發財的路數。”這樣的經濟發展可取嗎?另一個問題是,是不是我們有了基本的人權,法製,民主和自由之後,經濟發展就會受阻?辦奧運會靠的不僅僅是經濟實力,而是需要尊重奧林匹克精神。奧運史上那些褻瀆奧林匹克精神的奧運會,比如希特勒1936年的奧運會和1980年的蘇共奧運會,無論是主辦者還是參與者,都付出了慘重代價。
something to think abt, read this:
http://news.wenxuecity.com/messages/200804/news-gb2312-581611.html
did i just tell u?
你!錯!啦!
這時一場中西方為生存空間的交量。不是意識形態的鬥爭。中共不管怎麽做中國人都是會招罵的。中國弱了。就沒這麽招風了。
西方民眾對中國的西藏問題是不感興趣的。
經濟吃緊,轉嫁矛盾,當然也要美其名曰。
我還真看不出你中文寫這麽好,卻連很中共入骨的達賴的熱誠都不如。
是你忘了如果沒有共產黨搞的那幾十年階級鬥爭,把中國搞得一窮二白,中國早就辦奧運會了。文革十年,中共自己都承認,國民經濟已經到了崩潰的邊緣。你還好意思說什麽共產黨領導才有奧運會。你認為別人都不了解曆史?如果沒有共產黨踐踏人權,褻瀆奧運精神,奧運火炬也不會傳遞得這樣窩囊。
b.t.w. if anybody sees he sides with anti china demonstrator in public, then you may want to 將his家庭地址公開
well, my dear comrade, i am just trying to tell you that its the chinese government that ruin everyone's image, not cnn, not abc, its the uncapable government.
If you are waiting for an answer to your quesiton from either a scum bag, or thugs, you can keep waiting for a long long time since no body fits the lable. Well, you can try to provide one yourself.
另外奧運火炬傳遞的曆史上,熄滅過很多次,沒什麽了不起的。別在這裏自作聰明、裝神弄鬼地嚇唬人了。
看來是火炬傳遞的發展越來越好,你失望、著急了吧?
according to chairman mao, you are avoiding fighting with the enemy, so the ABC slap on your face and you get angry at me??? u loser....
或許你能在做夢時夢見從破門看到美景,但我卻無論怎樣也從這個破門看不到什麽美景。去年,希臘一場史無前例的森林大火將傳統奧運聖火點火處化為灰燼。北京奧運的火炬點火隻好異地。除了從點火時起就一直抗議不斷外,在泰國,抗議人士被警察嚴格控製在路旁,沒有人能夠衝進路中影響火炬的傳遞,但火炬卻自動熄滅了五次;而在馬來西亞,幾乎沒有什麽抗議人士,但在傳遞過程中老天卻下著傾盆大雨。希望你能了解,在奧運史上奧運火炬的熄滅是罕見的。最近又傳出鳥巢多處漏水的消息,在以後的過程中,不僅僅是火炬傳遞,還不斷有這樣的破門爆出,衷心祝願你能一直看到美景。我們好不容易盼到我們中國人能夠辦一次奧運會,但這個奧運會的奧運精神卻被中共這個專製暴虐政權褻瀆了,以至於破門不斷,我深深感到痛心。
well i am not calling u thugs, there is no need to get high on me, you scum bag, i am calling u scum bag only.
i am just asking what you think and what you will do to ABC????
bro, in australia, caucasions can easily get away if they did wrong things to minorities and aboriginals, have heard and seen a few cases.
whilst in china, if you hurt minorities, then you will be in deep shit coz the government wanna show they look after the poor and disadvantaged. and if minorities killed chinese, they probably get away from that like the caucasions in australia.
personal views only here......
一個靠武裝押運的奧運火炬在奧運史上是罕見的,而且其本身令人感受到的不是代表奧運精神的和平和吉祥,而是讓人感到火藥味。當然你也可以從中感受到你的和平和吉祥,你甚至可以認為那些穿黑服的警察圍住火炬就是美的象征。這隻是我們各人對和平,吉祥和美有不同的定義而已。沒有別的意思,希望不要像對待王千源那樣,將我的家庭地址公開,我雙親年事已高,經不起暴徒的騷擾。你知道“警察是怕你的同夥們犯法,進了大牢大家沒什麽意思。”那是在澳洲,犯了法就得坐牢,而在中國,那些騷擾王千源的不法分子至今仍逍遙法外。多麽吉祥和和平的國度啊!
not 1.3 people.
Only thugs call 1.3 billion people thugs. Here is something for you to think about: A crazy guy was driving on a highway, he turned on radio and heard a warning about someone driving in the wrong direction. The crazy guy said to himself, what do they mean someone is in the wrong direction? there are 1.3 billion people in the wrong direction.
Only thugs call 1.3 billion people thugs. Here is something for you to think about: A crazy guy was driving on a highway, he turned on radio and heard a warning about someone driving in the wrong direction. The crazy guy said to himself, what do they mean someone is in the wrong direction? there are 1.3 people in the wrong direction.
Thugs never care about you or ABC's bullshit. Who do you think you are?
有的人可以越過花園的破門看到花園的美景。有的人永遠隻能看到破門。從您的評論可以看出,如果未來您的心理不發生改變,您永遠看到是破門,您永遠是自己的地獄!
I suppose that it is not a bad thing that your are desperated.
你別神神道道的,想嚇呼誰呢,沒門的。
警察是怕你的同夥們犯法,進了大牢大家沒什麽意思。
在鬧下去,藏青會不免就定成了國際恐怖集團了。
就象這樣的,還參什麽禪,念什麽佛的,省省吧。
"Pro-China thugs 'assaulted relay spectators' ABC Online".
ABC here is Australian Broadcasting Corporation. so what do you thugs think now?
從下麵的錄像也可以看到,最後火炬手點燃了象征奧運的火盆後,剛要歡呼,但在火盆內的熊熊火焰瞬間就莫名其妙地熄滅了,全場一片尷尬。火炬手-前澳洲遊泳奧運冠軍隻好摔手離去。過了好一段時間,兩位火炬保鏢才重新點燃。有些事不是靠人多或聲音大就能解決的。
另外從電視報道可以看到,火炬沿途都由澳洲警察重兵護送,有一段路程澳洲警察將兩位藍衣保鏢拉開,不讓他們充當什麽保鏢。
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/index.php?cl=7535079
先讓法,德等國扮黑臉,而美國則私低下哄騙中國與與達賴喇嘛談判。
中國一旦與達賴喇嘛開始談判,達賴喇嘛一定會先答應他是反藏獨的,隻是想西藏自治而以。
但達賴喇嘛自治西藏的結果一定是西藏獨立。
中國絕對不能因為奧運而與達賴喇嘛談判。談判以後隻會越來越被動,讓美國等得寸進尺。
美國最近一直在要求中國讓美國在西藏設置一個領事館。
中國絕對不能答應美國這個要求。有了美國領事館, 美國便可與藏獨裏應外合,搞出很多事情來。
隨著年齡的增長和中國的日益強大,達賴喇嘛也知道自己的要求是不會被接受的,他就不斷的修改自己的言論,從以前堅持獨立到現在要求高度自治,司馬昭之心,路人皆知!從這些不斷修改的言論就知道他有多虛偽和狡詐了.妄想把分裂和人權同日而語,不分裂就沒有人權了嗎?他現在裝出一副善良的嘴臉隻能說明他比以前成熟,識時務了,但披著羊皮的狼還是狼,是更狡猾的狼!若是那豺狼來了,迎接它的隻有獵槍!
澳洲華人在西方製度國家裏是最有力量的一群。象你們致敬。
在美華人應該積極投如為華人爭取權宜的活動裏去。
中國人就是要團結。
ZD打的標語就是FREE TIBET,中國能讓他獨立嗎? 這麽多年來中央政府給西藏多少無
償的財政補貼,建設了多少基礎設施?犧牲了多少中華兒女?
俺老泰山就是80年援藏的幹部,在拉薩市公安局工作.高原氣候缺氧,很少有青菜,非
常艱苦.當年僅湖北就有180位援藏的幹部,原計劃是5年,非常幸運,當年胡錦濤主政
西藏後為了多培養本地幹部,讓好多內地幹部提前回了內地.老泰山在西藏僅工作了
2年,但好多同誌工作了20 -30年,特別向他們致敬!
If he even has no influence on the small numbers of oversea ZD, how can he represent all people in Tibet? One of these must be a lie. He either is a person nobody caring to listen or he controls some population, especially the oversea ZD followers. Do you believe him? He is just trying to avoid the responsibility for the violence and any possible terror actions. I think he is a double face person. Remember, he never denounces the riot in Tibet and the terrorist threats by oversea ZD.
沒有根據的指責是沒有幫助的。我們需要冷靜,客觀地分析,而不是隨意濫罵。
看看達賴喇嘛的真正意願:
http://news.wenxuecity.com/messages/200804/news-gb2312-580696.html
"他用藏文寫道:對於所有漢族同胞表示問好。我們兄弟民族在緊緊保持兄弟情感下,任何問題以通過內部坦誠交談來解決,並經常保持相互密切的關係是很重要的。"
對比達賴喇嘛和你的態度,你覺得是哪個更有親和力呢?
達賴喇嘛也無法說服全部藏人,為什麽我們硬要把他跟藏獨或暴徒聯係在一起呢?
我從來沒有看到確切的證據,說明達賴喇嘛策劃或支持暴力手段。
"Pro-China thugs 'assaulted relay spectators' ABC Online".
ABC here is Australian Broadcasting Corporation. so what do you thugs think now?
難道血跡斑斑的達賴喇嘛會放下屠刀,立地成佛否!?
Tibet is free now.
第一張照片的老人是中方的愛國人士。
ABC網站上到處都是攻擊中國的反麵言論,哎,中國人的形象在西人眼裏就這麽差嗎?!
"Pro-China thugs 'assaulted relay spectators' ABC Online".
ABC here is Australian Broadcasting Corporation. so what do you thugs think now?
澳洲警察的水平比較高,嚴格將PRO-CHINA和PRO-TIBET兩組人馬隔開,盡量避免衝突
.
但普通澳洲人的反應還是很讓人擔心,今天下午Courier來拿東西,看到中國人就提‘It's all your friends in Canberra's fault',還好老板(西人)和大家都不答話,他也覺得無趣。不過有這種思想的西方人太多了,他們根本不了解西藏也不了解中國,西方傳媒牽著他們的鼻子走。英文網站也有很多西人留言攻擊中國的。
覺得中國要改變形象不是一朝一夕的事,還有很長的路要走,隻有祖國強大才能根本改變西方人的觀念。
Love Tibet but free Tibet NO WAY
到the age網站仔細看看吧。。
網上有視頻,可是還是不能判斷他的立場