加拿大總理特魯多1月31日就孟晚舟事件答聽眾問

網上的一段視頻，特魯多在一次社區集會上回答一個聽眾問題的講話（Trudeau said that at a town hall that took place at Craig Kielburger Secondary School in Milton, Ont. on Thursday night.），網址鏈接，我作了個翻譯，跟通常的翻譯一樣，急就章，文辭欠推敲，隻求翻出個大意，原文附後：

好極了！非常感謝雷問這個問題。這是一個非常熱門的話題，涉及幾個因素在裏麵。首先，你提到華為。我們知道我們轉向。。。現在我們的手機係統都是4G,我們正在向5G轉，5G的連接性將會更好，也更強大，但是也潛在地在安全方麵更脆弱。這就是為什麽我們要保證我們的網絡安全專家跟世界各地的專家們來評估我們如何發展，才能保證加拿大人的安全，保證我們數據的安全，保證我們的機密通訊的安全。同時也保證我們能以可以負擔的價格采用世界上最好的科技。要以負責任的方式來完成這一切，你不應該把政治引入你的思維方式。你必須采用一種深思熟慮、實事求是，建立在證據基礎上的思維方式。這就是為什麽我們委托我們的國家安全和情報機構進行分析，我們的專家和通訊專家進行必要的分析，然後就我們如何進行這項工作提出建議，以及，你懂的，哪家供應商，哪些公司可以成為5G網絡的一部分。這是事情的一方麵。另一個近來跟中國有關的問題是，兩名加拿大人以國家安全的名義在中國被拘留。他們是緊接著一名中國公民，一名重要的中國公民在溫哥華按美國發出的引渡令被拘留之後被拘留的。我們與美國有一個引渡協議，我們與世界上很多其它國家也有此類協議。根據這些協議，如果某人犯了某項在加拿大會判有罪的罪行，我們就會以我們的司法體係對其進行審判，然後基於我們獨立、嚴格的司法體係做出是否將此人引渡到美國的決定。這個過程深深浸淫並根植於加拿大的以法治國和司法獨立的理念中。中國政府要求我們釋放這位重要的中國公民，幹預我們獨立的司法體係的運行。不同國家辦事的方法不同，但是在加拿大，政界人物不會插手法庭程序，我們的司法體係是獨立於政治壓力和政治程序的，這是件好事！（聽眾鼓掌）坦率地說，這不僅是加拿大的法律和價值觀的基石，也是世界上很多國家的基石，這些國家都是我們的朋友和盟友。自從中國給我們施加壓力要釋放他們的公民，同時相當任意地拘留我們的兩名公民，我們一直與全世界我們的朋友和盟友進行接觸，很廣泛的各種國家，從我們傳統的盟友到不是那麽鐵的盟友，都達成一致的認識，很多是私下地，也有很多是公開地，支持以法治國，支持那兩名被拘留的加拿大人，以及任何其他在中加兩國的外交或政治麵臨挑戰時期到中國旅行的加拿大人。我們一定要讓中國明白，加拿大將堅持法治，絕不動搖，也將遵守我們的國際協議和義務，並將始終把加拿大人的安全放在首位。這就是我們的立場（觀眾鼓掌）。當然，我們不希望事態升級。我們承認，中國是個極為重要並仍在上升的經濟體，是世界舞台上的一個重要的演員。我們期待著繼續與中國做貿易。但是我們需要中國當局明白，在法治方麵，加拿大和很多其它國家將堅持原則，不會屈服於他們施加的政治壓力。

Excellent！ Thank you very much， Ray， for that question. It's a very topical issue that has a couple of elements to it. First of all, you mentioned Huawei.We know we’re moving towards...Right now  our cellular systems are all on 4G,we are moving towards 5G which will be significantly more connected, significantly more powerful but also potentially significantly more vulnerable around security concerns. And that’s why we’re making sure that our security experts are working with experts around the world to evaluate how we gonna move forward in a way that will ensure that we can continue to keep Canadians safe，make sure that our data is safe,make sure that our secure comunications are secure. But also make sure that we are taking on the best technology in the world at affordable prices. And navigating that in a responsible way is something you can’t really approach with a political mindset. you have to approach with a thoughtful, fact-based, evidence-based mindset. And that’s why we are trusting our national security and intelligence agencies to do the analysis ,our experts and communications experts to do the analysis necessary to make recommendations on how we move forward in that way,and you know, which providers, and who can be part of Canada’s 5G network. That’s on one side of things. The other issue that is come up recently with China is the situation where two Canadians have been detained in China on national security charges. They were detained immediately after a Chinese citizen, a prominent Chinese citizen was detained in Vancouver on an extradition order from the United States. Now， we have an extradition treaty with the United States like we do with all sorts of different countries around the world. And along with terms of those treaties if someone commits a crime that would be a crime in Canada we try them in our justice system and make a determination based on our independent, rigorous justice system on whether or not to extrdite them to the United States.This is a process that is steeped in and anchored in the rule of law and the independent justice system that Canada has. Now,the Chinese govement has been asking us to release that prominent Chinese citizen and interfere with the functioning of our independent judiciary. Now, different countries do things differently. But in Canada, politicians don’t get to weigh in on court proceedings. We have a judiciary that is independent of political pressures and political processes and that’s a good thing(applaud from the audience). It is something that, quite frankly,is a cornor stone of Canada of our laws and our values but it’s also a cornor stone of an awful lot of countries around the world who are our friends and allies. And while China has benn putting pressure on us to release their citizen this way, and detaining, somewhat arbitrarily, our own two citizens. We have been talking with our friends and allies around the world, a broad range of countries, from our traditional allies to less likely allies who are all very much in agreement, many of them privately, many of them publicly that standing up for the rule of law, standing up for the safety of Canadians those two Canadians detained right now,and any other Canadians who happen to travel to China when there might be challenge in diplomacy or political relationship between Canada and China. We need to make sure that China understands that Canada is going to unequivocally stand up for the rule of law, respect our international treaties and obligations and always put the safety of Canadians first. That is where we stand(audience applaud and cheer). But of course we don’t want to escalate. We recognize China is an extremely important and growing economy, a significant player on the world stage. We look forward to continuing to trade with China.But we need the Chinese authority to understand that when it comes to rule of law, Canada and an awful lot of other countries will stand firm regardless of the political pressures they put on us.