They are simply a bunch of whining babies. Most of them do not even have the memories into the 70's. Or someone simply not from mainland China and pretend to be the fair judge.
爾曹身與名俱裂，不廢江河萬古流
very well put!
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回複可選項123的評論:
你TRUTH並不值錢
Of course, you can't handle the truth, that's all!
Well said! some do even worse. Like the one who compares 梁效”with 戈培爾. a truly barking dog! I am not even sure this guy was even old enough to be tortured back then. He probabaly just think himself as "saving souls".
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回複可選項123的評論:
我看您的言論離梁效也不遠了。我不認為北奧是在吹捧範達人，可是如果我有家人在文革中被梁效的文章所害，我會像青青一樣憤怒的”
其實我看這stockganster就是他本人? Whom you are refering me to? 範達人? You really think youself a smart a**, don't you?
Tell you the truth, I am 46 years old. Get a clue?
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回複出場費的評論:
我就當隻衛道Gou，時不時“汪汪”叫兩聲，警告某些幽靈離人類遠一點。
hehehe, you truly think you are the god, don't you? Keep barking! Oops.
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回複居有竹的評論:
Well, I guess your brain only has size to absorb the things from a web article and deduce the conclusion from it. Very very sad. I only comment on your brain size but did not infer you are a criminal yet as you did to other people.
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回複出場費的評論:
I am wondering how many "alias" you have. All the sudden, the guys I responded to jumped all together. Hahaha, like you guy(s) are working together. So funny. At least I have the courage to use only one name. You probabaly don't know that your writing style is very similar to that of 梁效. You would have been a really a good fit for them if you born in that age.
回複stockganster的評論:
很有意思。我說的一些話因為與某些人觀點不同，就被某些人認為有病： I think you are just a sick human being who needs a lot of help from psychiatrist. 這些人一邊說別人還在搞文革，一邊卻在給別人帶帽子。為避免遭受人身攻擊，我不會再進這個論壇。
how did you know that 範某人 could 呼風喚雨 in that era? 我想任何一個經曆過文革的人都知道這一點。隻要讀一下北奧先生的文章 ：[“梁效” 先後在, 和 等領導潮流的黨報和中央級報刊上發表了 181篇文章, 不僅紅極一時, 它更是代表了黨中央, 毛主席的聲音, 統領全國的輿論界和新聞界. 甚至很快在全國範圍內就形成了 “小報抄大報, 大報抄梁效” 的局麵.] 這種呼風喚雨 的氣勢是否很磅礴？
Cut if off! Stop using the word like "罪惡" I don't think your brain is big enough to understand the difference between crime and mistake. 我因為說了一下自己的觀點，沒想到我的腦容量都成了別人感興趣的東西。至於範某犯的是罪惡還是錯誤，我想任何一個經曆過文革的人都知道這一點， 這也是文革後他坐牢的原因。我們還是再讀一下北奧先生的文章：[後來批判老範的名人竟然又象老範和他們那些”梁效”的文人一樣, 重蹈複轍, 盲目地聽從上級指示, 順從地體會領導意圖, 把人往死裏整, 把話往絕處說, 以打倒別人為自己的政治前途鋪路, 以別人的痛苦為自己的最大快感]. 這段話說明範某和後來整他的人都一樣[把人往死裏整,] ，設想一下，如果有一天某人被人往死裏整了, 就會懂得什麽是罪惡了。
回複居有竹的評論:
Tell us how did you know that 範某人 could 呼風喚雨 in that era? From where you've learned that? From this article or from somewhere else (specify it)? Do you really know the existence of the guy before this article? If not, how can you draw this many conclusions from reading only a web article. Let along this article did not suggest any of the claims you made. I think you are just a sick human being who needs a lot of help from psychiatrist.
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回複居有竹的評論:
Cut if off! Stop using the word like "罪惡". What did the guy do? Do you honestly know what he did? I bet you know nothing. If what he did in that era could be considered as "罪惡", we all did it then! I don't think your brain is big enough to understand the difference between crime and mistake. You and several other posters here are behaving just like those hooligans in culture revelution, throwing out big hat one after another without any fact backing up your claim. So sick!
回複醜女的大地的評論:
正義誌士站出來，為文革中受盡磨難的中國知識分子仗義執言? Really? So bad most of these people do not even know what 文革 histry was. So how can they represent 受盡磨難的中國知識分子?
回複柳青青的評論:
Again, you are ignoring the basic fact and are way to vague. Which article exactly and when did it cause your 家庭因為梁效文章遭受迫害? If you want to draw some sympathy here, try to lay the fact here. Otherwise, we see nothing other than fabrications. You should have at least this amount of courage to say which article caused your family's ordeals if you claim that 梁效文章 committed horrible crime, right?!
I am not in the defence of 梁效, but I don't think they were a bunch of evils as I know many many people in that era committed same kind of mistakes. They were just in the forfront and easy to be blameed. Also, just like "六月六"'s comments, most of their articles were related 評法批儒”一類的理論東西 and they were only in existence from late 1973 to 1976 which was not in the peak period when the most vicious 迫害 happend. So it's hard to imagine that your family's ordeal had anything to do with 梁效的文章 directly. It's either in your imagination of something else. I think you are possessing same kind of mindset that those people had in the culture revelution. This is exactly the same kind of logic that put your family and a lot of others gone through the tragic events back then. They used imagination and weak connection between the things to criminize certain group people.
I think you are too young to understand all these as you claim you were born in 70's. But seriouly, you should have learned much more before you make a strong comments like this. Again, I am not saying the guy was innocent but it's really far-fetched to claim the guy is a horrendous criminal as you and several others suggested in your posts.
回複nidayewo的評論:
sounds like you are a KMD 特務. What's your problem? Got kicked out from mainland and trys to come back? Next life if you are lucky!
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回複new8287的評論:
you don't know 梁效是何許人 so you don't have the right to say. go hide in your cave and learn something first! I can't stand the stupidity. A lot of "FenQing" here. I am not a fan of communist but not as dummy as you are either.
of course, but really, what's the connection between 梁效 and her family's ordeal? and why use the word 滔天大罪? She had no idea what she is talking about I guess.
回複柳青青的評論:
流氓? or yeah, you really have 修養 I guess. Go back to your post and see what kind of foul language you used towards this poor guy. In fact, you don't even know the fact. Using the wore of "stupidity" is really luxury for you!
回複柳青青的評論:
BTW, what were consist of 滔天大罪 committed by the guy? Name one or two for us. I bet you did not even know the guy's existence before 北奧's ariticle, did you? Now ansewer the question? when was 梁效 formed?
回複柳青青的評論:
me? as 北奧? Hahaha! By asking you two questions, I just want you to be able to draw inference between your family's ordeal with the existence of 梁效. Does not look like you have the IQ for doing this. You really let youself sound stupid, seriously!
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回複把酒話桑麻的評論:
well said! You and 勇氣號.
But I see ignorance and stupidity go on here like it did in culture revelution. Some people just do not have brain.
What a shame! Those criminals not yet punished!
As long as GCD is in power, those criminals will be OK!
But I believe God will punish their offsprings, like Mao's sons! Wait and see!
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回複柳青青的評論:
你跟犯下滔天大罪人交朋友!
Wow, scary hat! Sounds like "北奧" deserve to be hanged. Ok, answering two basic questions please. 1) when did your relatives 受害 and 2) when 梁效 was formed?
回複二胡一刀的評論:
I think you need to bat youself! You sounds like a horrible "fenqing" who knows very little but pretend to know a lot.
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回複stockganster的評論:
read this! This is ture as I know someone very close to me who were chosen as the member. So to those who made things up and bluntly attacked others, I say SFU and learn some basic facts before you post!
How did you know that? You are fully makeing this up! Signify that you are a even worse kind!
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回複可選項123的評論:
I don't think you know what you are talking about. From the way you are talking, you won't be any better than this guy if there were a second "Cultural Revolution".
回複高山茶的評論:
looks like most of the posters here do not know what "梁效" was. It's a organization but not a individual. This guy was a member of "梁效". 梁效 was made of a group of people who were chosen to represent "Bejing University" and "QinHua University" (so named as 北大、清華大批判組, or 梁效 - you can prononce it as "two schools") to write political articles. The members of the organization were a group of 知識分子 who were chosen from each department. Just like the guy said, they did not have any priviliges other than just ate a little better. They just did what they were told to do which was very typical at that time. Of course, they got fame 'cause the school's fame and they wrote a lot of influential articles back then. For those posters who had hard feelings about the guy, especially the one who compare this guy with "納粹德國的宣傳部長", you are way out the line! Learn some histry before you direct you anger.
