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“我稱之為終止日”：安大略省省長警告特朗普關稅聲明的影響
NBC 新聞 2025 年 4 月 1 日
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNn9GrdmpOQ
現在，我與一位身處美國和加拿大之間貿易戰前線的人一起，他是安大略省省長 Doug Ford 呃，福特先生，非常感謝您加入我們，我們對此表示感謝呃，您上周告訴記者，您和加拿大高級官員已經為特朗普總統明天宣布的任何措施準備了報複性關稅，您的回應的嚴重程度取決於您從特朗普總統那裏聽到了什麽呃，那是對的 Ryan F 首先，我總是在每次采訪開始時說加拿大人愛美國人他們愛美國我愛美國我在那裏度過了 20 年呃，但是是的，我們將進行報複我們將進行適當但嚴厲的報複，以及我一直說，我們擁有世界上最偉大的兩個國家，讓我們建造一座阿曼堡壘，你知道，特朗普總統競選時說要發展經濟，創造就業機會，但這不會發生，這會損害美國經濟，我不稱之為美國人的解放日，我稱之為終止日，因為有人將被解雇，裝配線將關閉，你不能就這樣切斷你世界上最大的客戶，那就是加拿大，而我們現在在這個國家正處於狂熱狀態，因為我的美國朋友每天都在做他們的日常生意，有 4000 萬加拿大人正忙著逛零售購物區，看看加拿大製造的是什麽，美國製造的是什麽，我從來沒有見過這樣的事情，你說，先生，你和商務部長霍華德·盧特尼克談過安大略省的預期明天，而他甚至不知道這說明了政府如何處理這一切，我不知道，我不太確定政府如何處理這個問題，呃，有時我想知道他們真的不知道嗎，或者他們隻是在吹牛，我認為他們中的很多人真的不知道，至少參議員、州長和國會議員們，他們不太確定發生了什麽，坦率地說，我們不太確定，所以讓我們看看明天 4 月 2 日會發生什麽，市場將做出負麵反應，這些都是人民的養老基金，美國人將受到傷害，這是我最不想看到的，我想建立一個強大的 AMCAN 堡壘來保護加拿大和美國，我們有關鍵的礦物，我們有能源，我們有鉀灰和鈾，等等，還有除了我們全世界最偉大的盟友和朋友之外，我最想向他們推銷的隻有我們。好吧，我不得不想象，這種程度的不可預測性也讓你非常為難。跟我談談不知道結果會是什麽，以及這可能會對美國和加拿大的經濟產生什麽影響。好吧，瑞安，沒有人喜歡不確定性，美國人不喜歡不確定性，加拿大人不喜歡不確定性，企業不喜歡不確定性，市場不喜歡不確定性，它阻礙了投資，這是我們最不想做的事情，尤其是在世界各地發生動蕩的時候，你必須團結在一起，我們是這個大家庭的一部分，正如我們 200 年來所相信的那樣，我知道很多美國人也有同樣的感受，我們會在那裏支持我們，我們最偉大的朋友和盟友會永遠在那裏，但我們不能受到一個人的攻擊，上個月我們和你談話的時候，你說你放棄了實施製裁的威脅先生，對美國電力進口征收關稅，如果對加拿大和安大略省征收新關稅，你現在是否準備好繼續征收這項關稅，我們這樣做的原因是我想讓氣氛降下來，我想坐在盧特尼克部長麵前，了解整個故事，嗯，是的，你知道我們在一起進行了一次很好的談話，但唯一可以接受的是零關稅，我們需要美國人，美國人需要加拿大人，我們之間的關係非常融洽，我和無數企業的首席執行官談過，我還沒有找到一個同意這一點的首席執行官，這隻會損害他們的經濟，這就是最終的結果，而美國人將被解雇，所以這是我們最不想做的事情，你知道我總是說你不能把雞蛋翻過來，你必須把煎蛋卷做得更大，還有誰比你最親密的朋友和盟友更好，所以我們準備好了，我們還有額外的 650 億美元報複性關稅擺在桌麵上，我們已經征收了 600 億美元，這會很傷人，而且會很傷人，呃，這是我們最不想做的事情，但我們不會屈服，我必須向美國人民道歉，我們非常愛你們，我很抱歉你們被置於聽一聽，我們不會讓加拿大生產商和加拿大工人相對於美國工人處於不利地位，因此，我們可以采取一些措施，在最低限度上與美國保持競爭環境，這也取決於他們明天采取的更廣泛的措施，如果他們確實對加拿大采取了這些措施，也許可以解釋一下他所說的措施是什麽。我 100% 同意總理的觀點，我們隻是想看看我們將要麵臨的關稅清單，然後我們將一美元一美元地征收關稅，這很不幸，還有很多其他國家不是我們的朋友，我們需要把重點放在中國身上，而不是你在世界上最親密的朋友，加拿大家庭的一部分，這是錯誤的做法，我們是全國 28 個州的第一大貿易夥伴，僅安大略省就有 900 萬美國人醒來每天早上隻為安大略省生產產品 零售商和其他人的情況如何 他們試圖讓製造某種小部件的人加入進來 讓我們把他們帶到安大略省 我們會給他們激勵 政府將幫助您建造大樓 給您稅收減免 隻需加入安大略省或加拿大的某個地方 這將使美國人失去工作 這是我見過的最荒謬的事情 讓我們一起努力 讓我們成為世界上最強大的兩個國家 好吧 福特總理作為紐約西部人 在您的省份度過了很多時間 那是世界美麗的地方 所以很高興與您交談 我們必須看看明天會發生什麽 非常感謝您加入我們 上帝保佑美國 上帝保佑加拿大 讓我們度過難關 我要求國會 參議院和州長向政府施加壓力 這是不能可以
繼續前進 好的 謝謝福特總理.
‘I call it termination day’: Ontario premier warns about implications of Trump’s tariff announcement
NBC News
2025年4月1日
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNn9GrdmpOQ
and I'm joined now by someone who's at the front lines of what is becoming a trade war between the United States and Canada Doug Ford who is the premier of Ontario Uh Mr Ford thank you so much for joining me We appreciate it Uh you told reporters last week that you and top
Canadian officials have prepared retaliatory tariffs for whatever President Trump announces tomorrow Will
the severity of your response depend on
what you hear from President Trump uh
that that's correct Ryan F first of all
I always start off every interview
saying Canadians love Americans They
love the US I love the US I spent 20
years of my life there Uh but yes we're
we're going to retaliate We're we're
going to retaliate appropriately but
hard as well As as I've always said we
have the two greatest countries in the
world Let's build an Aman fortress You
know President Trump ran on growing the
economy creating jobs and that's not
going to happen It's going to hurt the
American economy I don't call it
liberation day for Americans I call it
termination day because there are people
going to be laid off Assembly lines will
shut down You can't just cut off your
your largest customer in the world and
that's Canada And we're at a fever pitch
right now in this country As my American
friends are just going on their daily uh
business every day There's 40 million uh
Canadians that are ramped up literally
going down uh retail shopping aisles
looking to see what's made in Canada
what's made in the US I've never I've
never seen anything like it And you said
sir that you spoke to Commerce Secretary
Howard Lutnik about what to expect for
Ontario tomorrow and that he didn't even
know What does that tell you about how
the way the administration is handling
all of this well I'm not you know something I'm not too sure how the administration's handling this Uh
sometimes I wonder do they really not
know um or are they just blowing smoke i
I think a lot of them really don't know
They at least the uh at least the senators and and governors and Congress women and men uh they aren't too sure what's what's going on And to be very
frank uh we aren't too sure So let's see what happens uh on uh tomorrow April 2nd uh the market's going to respond negatively These are people's pension funds Americans will be hurt and that's the last thing I I want to see I want to build a strong AMCAN fortress to protect Canada and the US We have the critical minerals we have the energy we have the pot ash and the uranium and the list goes on And there's no one else I'd want
to sell to more than our greatest allies
and friends in the entire world Well I
have to imagine though that that level
of unpredictability makes it very difficult
for you as well Talk to me a little bit about how just not knowing what this outcome could be and the impact that
that could potentially have on both the
economy of the United States and Canada
Well Ryan no one likes uncertainty Americans don't like uncertainty Canadians don't Businesses don't The
market doesn't like uncertainty It stalls investments That's the last thing we want to do especially with turbulent
times happening around the world you have to stick together Uh we're part of the family as as we believe for 200 years and I know a lot of Americans feel
the same way Uh we're there to support
our our greatest friends and allies will
always be there but uh we can't be under
attack by by one person When we spoke to
you last month uh you said that you
rescended your threat to impose a sir
charge on electricity imports to the US
Are you prepared now to go forward with
that charge if the new tariffs are
imposed against against Canada and in
and Ontario in particular well the
reason we did that I want to bring the
temperature down I wanted to sit in
front of Secretary Lutnik and get the
whole story and uh yes he he you know we
got together had a good good
conversation but the only thing
acceptable is zero tariffs Uh we need uh
you know Americans and Americans need
Canadians We have such an incredible
relationship together I've talked to
endless CEOs of businesses I've yet to
find one CEO that agrees with this It's
just going to hurt their uh economy That
that's what it's going to come down to
And and people are going to be laid off
in in the US So that that's the last
thing we want to do Let's you know I
always say you can't unscramble an egg
You have to make the omelette larger And
who better than uh with your closest
friends and allies and so we're we're
prepared We have additional $65 billion
of retaliatory tariffs on the table We've already done 60 billion That is going to hurt and it's going to hurt a
lot Uh that's the last thing we want to
do but we we just aren't going to roll
over And I I got to apologize to the American people We absolutely love you I'm sorry you've been put Take a listen
We will not disadvantage Canadian
producers and Canadian workers relative
to American workers So there are
measures that we can take that at a
minimum level the playing field uh with
the United States and again it depends
on the broader measures they take
tomorrow if indeed they do against
Canada and maybe explain what some sort
of measures is is he talking about there
Well I agree with the the prime minister
100% We just want to see the the list
per se of the uh tariffs that we're
going to be facing and then we'll go
tariff for tariff dollar for dollar and
it's it's unfortunate There's so many
other uh countries that aren't our
friends let's say We need to be focused
on China not your closest friend in the
world um part of the family Canada It's
just the wrong thing to do We're the
number one trading partner uh to 28
states across the country Just Ontario
alone 9 million Americans wake up every
morning to produce products for Ontario
alone And what's happening with the
retailers and other people they're
trying to on board uh people that make
uh a certain widget Let's bring them to
Ontario We'll give them an incentive the
government will help you build the
building give you tax breaks just on
board into Ontario or somewhere in
Canada and that's going to cost uh
American jobs This is the most
ridiculous thing I've ever seen Let's
work together Let's be the two strongest
nations in the world All right Premier
Ford as a Western New York native have
spent a lot of time in your province a
beautiful part of the world So it was
great to talk to you and we'll have to
see what happens tomorrow Thank you so
much for joining us Well God bless
America God bless Canada Let's get
through this I ask the the uh Congress
Senate and uh governors put pressure on
the administration This this can't can
move forward Okay Thank you Premier Ford
We appreciate it
