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尼日爾總理稱,美國“威脅”是導致關係破裂的原因

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2024 年 5 月 14 日

尼亞美——尼日爾總理阿裏·馬哈曼·拉明·澤內 (Ali Mahaman Lamine Zeine) 在周二發表的《華盛頓郵報》采訪中表示,尼日爾軍政府領導的尼日爾於 3 月切斷了與美國的軍事關係,因為美國威脅實施製裁。

尼亞美於 3 月中旬宣布將終止與華盛頓的軍事合作協議,此前不久,美國代表團離開了這個薩赫勒國家。

尼日爾一直是西非反恐行動的重要基地,在阿加德茲市附近有一個主要的美國無人機基地。

澤內說,率領代表團訪問的美國負責非洲事務的助理國務卿莫莉·菲 (Molly Phee) 威脅說,如果尼日爾簽署向伊朗出售其生產的鈾的協議,將對尼亞美實施製裁。

“首先,你們來這裏是為了威脅我們國家。這是不可接受的,”澤內說他告訴菲。

“你們來這裏是為了告訴我們可以和誰建立關係,這也是不可接受的。你們用居高臨下的語氣和缺乏尊重的態度做這一切,”澤內回憶道。

當被問及澤內的說法時,國務院發言人維丹特·帕特爾沒有否認菲向軍政府提出了一個“選擇”,並表示她正在傳達“美國政府的協調立場”。

帕特爾在華盛頓告訴記者,菲提出了“一個植根於我們對民主原則的信仰和符合我們國家安全利益的選擇”。

他說,在意識到雙方無法達成諒解後,美國決定“以有序和負責任的方式”撤軍。

美國於 4 月同意撤出 1,000 多名美國人員,與尼日爾的談判正在進行中。

“美國人留在我們的土地上,在恐怖分子殺人、燒毀城鎮的時候什麽也沒做,”領導與美國談判的澤內說。

“進入我們的土地,讓恐怖分子襲擊我們,這不是友誼的象征。

“我們已經看到了美國將采取什麽措施來保衛其盟友,因為我們看到了烏克蘭和以色列。”

去年 7 月的政變推翻了民選總統穆罕默德·巴祖姆後,美國暫停了軍事支持。

相比之下,俄羅斯、土耳其和阿聯酋“張開雙臂”歡迎新領導人,澤內告訴郵報。

政變後,軍政府在 2023 年底前將軍隊驅逐出前殖民大國法國,並加強了與俄羅斯的關係,俄羅斯在 4 月和 5 月派遣了軍事教官和裝備。

據尼日爾外交部稱,美國的發展援助將繼續進行,新協議為期三年,價值近 5 億美元。

2094 條評論

因此,華盛頓郵報寫了一篇關於一個國家的文章,該國領導人通過政變掌權,並將政變領導人作為其主要信息和觀點來源。

拜托。
是的……這讓我很困擾。這篇有偏見的文章有很多錯誤。
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有偏見還不足以形容它。我見過美國媒體誇大我們自己政府(例如伊拉克)的宣傳。但這是為一個殺人、非法的軍事獨裁政權進行的直截了當的宣傳。

最重要的是,它不符合其自身的內部邏輯。文章本身指出,菲女士的訪問是尼日爾已經威脅要驅逐美軍之後的“最後一次努力”。

他的主要抱怨是,美國不像他的獨裁同僚那樣“張開雙臂”接受非法政變,我們不會向非法政府出售武器,我們威脅說,如果他們向伊朗出售鈾,就會實施製裁?你在開玩笑嗎?

這些新盟友在尼日爾的主要存在似乎是瓦格納集團重組的部隊,他們在其他六個非洲國家製造了浩劫並竊取了自然資源。

如果你想反對一項有原則的(並且公認不完美)外交政策,即推進民主價值觀和人權,那就去吧。盡管我們在遏製與其他壓迫盟友謀求利益的獨裁軸心方麵麵臨著新的挑戰,但我認為,通過推進這些原則(再次:公認不完美),美國的利益仍然得到了推進。

繼續采訪任何推翻合法政府隻是為了聚集權力和讓少數人致富的政權的領導人吧。祝賀你的獨家新聞(“獨家”——大獲全勝!)。但請把情況放在比本文中埋藏的平淡無奇的描述更具體的背景中。看在上帝的份上,問一些更尖銳的問題。如果那隻是專製政府的宣傳講台,那它就毫無意義。
“我看到美國媒體放大了我們自己政府的宣傳(例如伊拉克)。”

你現在每天都可以看到它!隻要看看《紐約時報》(例如以色列)的頭版。大多數文章都直接來自以色列。
我更喜歡華盛頓郵報寫這篇文章,相信我能辨別出信息可能由於來源而可疑。知道 DOS 必須處理什麽總比不知道好。

我認為作者非常清楚地表明我們應該對 Zeine 先生的話持懷疑態度。評論清楚地表明我們大多數人都注意到了這一點。

我唯一的抱怨是關於標題,這不是作者的錯。華盛頓郵報確實需要一些工作。
不,它太不平衡了,不值得發表。它的指控沒有得到一方的回應——毫無意義。
大多數讀者從不看評論。大多數讀者隻看表麵,最糟糕的是,這可以用來支持更多的虛假信息和宣傳,引用郵報是誠實和公正的。
這是一篇宣傳文章,是這位作者的眾多文章之一。
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我讚揚華盛頓郵報的努力——這使它有別於其他 90% 的美國新聞機構。BBC 和《經濟學人》是國際報道的兩個主要來源。
衛報和 BBC 是國際報道最好的。《經濟學人》和半島電視台也很棒。
通常,主流媒體對非洲的報道完全基於美國政府的新聞稿和泄密。引用不在美國領薪水的非洲人的話是不尋常的。
澤納總理不是政變領導人。他是政變領導人雇傭來管理政府文職部分的技術官僚。
觀察得很好!喜歡主要來源——除非它對你來說太令人困惑,因為這種文章需要你自己思考。

另外,我們能不能把瑪麗·凱瑟琳“莫莉”·菲去掉。我關注她的職業生涯已經有一段時間了,她完全浪費了篇幅。

我在那個困難的地區有一些經驗,雖然反對政變和支持民主是重要的立場,但每一種情況都有複雜的特點和不同的美國利益,而國會強加的具有約束力的一般政策(例如,切斷所有援助)對我們有效解決這些問題沒有多大幫助。

關於助理國務卿莫莉·菲:她是我們係統中最有成就的外交官之一,在開羅、安曼、伊拉克(在那裏她得到了我們英國盟友的高度讚揚)、美國駐聯合國代表團和駐南蘇丹大使期間取得了重大成就。她會說阿拉伯語、法語和意大利語。我們很幸運有她在我們服務。

讀了這篇文章後,我確實想知道 Phee 的傲慢、無能的幹預是否是特朗普掏空國務院的結果?
華盛頓郵報做了這些獨家報道,他經常讓你感到困惑為什麽?

寫一些有趣的新聞故事來影響很多人怎麽樣?

哦,等等,你可以在紐約時報上找到它。
你反對外國新聞?
每篇關於哈馬斯的文章都是這樣。用途

哈馬斯作為消息來源,並將其作為事實。華盛頓郵報早就失去了洞察力。
“讓恐怖分子襲擊我們,這不是友誼的象征,而是進入我們的領土。我們已經看到了美國將采取什麽措施來保衛其盟友,因為我們已經看到了烏克蘭和以色列。”
而這種裂痕至少部分是由於美國政府不願代表一個未經選舉的政府幹預尼日爾的內部民事糾紛。聽起來美國做出了一個明智的政策決定。
讓我們問問俄羅斯收買的腐敗獨裁者,他為什麽要驅逐美國軍隊。我相信他會說實話。
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很難相信他們不想成為喬的美國的一部分。總是贏。盡快讓布林金過去
他們會與特朗普的美國融為一體,通過放棄民主選舉來掌權,與希望在全世界都有獨裁者的普京的俄羅斯合作。特朗普總是贏,特別是在拖延法庭案件審理,以便他可以使用專製手段逃避犯罪行為的責任。
看來你無法理解發生了什麽。
美國是一個民主國家,並且支持民主國家。
尼日爾的新政府通過非法政變推翻了民選政府。
雖然特朗普會張開雙臂擁抱新獨裁者,因為這是他想要成為的,但熱愛民主的美國人卻不能。

你支持哪個:民主還是獨裁者?
貢佐蒂克是一位著名的普京付費宣傳員。多年來一直如此。
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好吧,美國(在英國的幫助下)幫助伊朗推翻了一位民選領導人,並扶植了自己的傀儡——當時他是一個殘暴甚至惡毒的獨裁者。這為毛拉們用自己的殘暴手段接管政權鋪平了道路。

試圖用自己的傀儡控製另一個國家永遠不會成功。我們是一個非常無知的國家。
WAPO,你真丟臉!多麽可怕的、誤導性的標題。根據你自己的故事,美國的“威脅”是,如果他們不恢複民主,不停止因非法軍事政變而虐待/監禁自己的人民,我們將停止向他們的國家提供援助。你的標題聽起來好像美國是個惡霸,而事實上,我們是在為弱者挺身而出對抗惡霸。再說一次,你真丟臉!啊,又一個國家建設者。不知道你是怎麽從那條評論中得到“國家建設者”這個詞的。自由主義者們醒了,麥格羅因!快跑,躲起來!我很困惑,事實上,WAPO 隻是根據收到的信息講述一個故事。請解釋一下 WAPO 在什麽時候站隊。如果我們隻根據我們想聽到的內容獲取信息,我們就會回到生活在黑暗中。美國沒有下最後通牒。你讀過這篇文章嗎?它批評美國,站在尼日爾一邊,稱美國在欺淩。這是尼日爾的觀點。
我們絕對有最後通牒,你為什麽說不是呢?你可以認為最後通牒是理性和道德的(恢複我們所定義的民主,否則就會失去軍事支持),或者你可以認為它很糟糕。但我們確實敦促新政府在激勵措施和時間限製下做出選擇。這是最後通牒。
華盛頓郵報在標題中站在了一邊,指責美國對尼日爾發出“威脅”。

如果沒有上下文,“威脅”就被認為是暴力。這不是這裏發生的事情。

華盛頓郵報的編輯是專業的文字匠,所以他們知道什麽時候是在誤導。
華盛頓郵報的編輯是專業的文字匠

我不太確定。
你讀過標題嗎?
如果你讀過這篇文章,它指責美國促進民主。
我同意。這篇文章對美國有負麵的解讀。尼日爾領導人感到屈尊俯就?也許他們隻是沒有安全感。為什麽美國會在政變後立即卷入戰鬥?

也許是因為“政變就是我們”?
因為美國要求每個國家都成為民主國家的政策是無法實現的,也不符合美國利益。

國會必須重新製定限製性法律,允許美國機構與外國政府合作,為美國利益服務。然後國務院必須振作起來,為我們的利益服務。
“美國要求每個國家都成為民主國家的政策是無法實現的,也不符合美國利益。”

民主確實符合美國利益。

獨裁者用謊言和暴力來反對美國利益。

沒有一個理想是 100%“可實現的”,但這並不意味著我們應該向暴力獨裁者投降,或者幫助他們。

把你的反民主宣傳帶到別處去。
我們不再接受對美國有負麵報道的新聞了嗎?你認為這是民主嗎?
不……這是文化敏感性的嚴重缺乏。在世界許多地方,進入一個家庭(國家)並告訴他們如何做事是一種極其惡劣的侮辱。

他們不是美國,我們允許其他國家(如以色列)來教訓我們。

如果有人不喜歡,我們可能會認為這是不安全的。在某些文化中,這被視為嚴重的蔑視

尊重你的主持人。
“如果你不會跳舞,那你真丟臉。”
他們隻是在報道尼日爾政府的立場。這難道不值得報道嗎?他們還得到了美國政府對這個話題的答複——由你來決定哪一方值得信任,哪一方不值得信任。
這是一篇荒謬的文章。瓦格納,或者說他的遺留物,幫助策劃了尼日爾的政變。當然,美國不會給一群反民主獨裁者武器。除了簡單地重複謊言和虛假信息之外,記者還必須對拜登進行挖苦。在這一點上,令人驚訝的是,你們的天氣預報和電影評論沒有包括對拜登的一些攻擊。
這是一個荒謬的評論。僅僅因為你不喜歡這些事實,並不意味著記者做錯了什麽。文章中沒有任何內容表明美國應該“給一群反民主獨裁者武器”。記者隻是在報道雙方的言論和行為。這就是新聞。你應該查一下這個概念。
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但是他們真的查過了嗎?除了 Zeine 先生,沒有任何人發表過獨立聲明。美國的立場與 Zeine 先生的報道一致——沒有引用美國官員的聲明,甚至沒有引用尼日爾大學的專家的聲明。

編輯後補充——有兩段話來自“一位美國官員”,但沒有提及具體引用。其他所有內容均引用自 Zeine 先生。
“針對 Zeine 的評論,一位美國官員表示:“3 月份向 CNSP 傳達的信息是美國政府的協調立場,以專業的方式傳達,以回應對尼日爾事態發展的合理擔憂。CNSP 麵臨的是一個選擇,而不是最後通牒,即他們是否希望繼續與我們合作,尊重我們的民主價值觀和國家安全利益。”

這篇文章在文章中的位置相當靠後;它肯定是為了報道尼日爾的聲明和觀點而寫的,但它確實包括了美國官員的反駁。

我的第一反應是,是政變造成了美尼關係的裂痕,而不是美國的“欺淩”。

我們失去了非洲的一個重要盟友,這非常令人擔憂。

另一方麵,尼日爾也失去了美國的一個重要盟友。

Zeine 的選擇。

然而,尼日爾人民失去了民主,發現自己成了俄羅斯最新的“朋友”,這真是不幸。

你的評論是赤裸裸的謊言。你讀過這篇文章嗎?
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新聞不需要淫穢的標題來推銷故事。
根據標題,我預計會有特朗普任命的混蛋對尼日爾提出不可能的要求。
不,是俄羅斯支持的獨裁者抱怨他不能像我們的盟友那樣從美國納稅人那裏得到免費的東西。
“新聞不需要淫穢的標題來推銷故事。”

你這個可愛的夏日孩子。我們已經閱讀黃色新聞一個多世紀了。
????????????????美國似乎並不關心他們向反民主獨裁者提供武器和支持。看看美國幫助了多少令人作嘔的國家。
以色列
如果不一次改變一個獨裁者的政策,你就無法改變美國支持獨裁者的政策。

拜登本可以代表全球石油公司擁抱新政府,但他卻向新政府施加壓力,要求其恢複民主。

這不是你想要的嗎?
有一個模因在流傳,展示了最近的北極光事件,上麵寫著“天空現在是同性戀!因為覺醒了。”華盛頓郵報將用拜登取代覺醒。正如你所說,這篇文章隻是一篇片麵的宣傳文章。作者現在可以和臭名昭著的紐約時報記者沃爾特·杜蘭蒂一起進入恥辱堂了。
沒錯。
對,我們賣給沙特的所有武器怎麽辦?我們甚至在那裏支持一個基地。
沙特阿拉伯想和你談談。
當然,美國不會給一群反民主獨裁者提供武器。
胡說。解釋一下賣給沙特阿拉伯的武器
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我們的基地在那裏為法國提供有關北非聖戰分子在沙漠中襲擊馬裏、布基納法索和尼日爾的情報。隨著法國人被趕出這三個國家,我們的基地不再有用。

我們不需要尼日爾的鈾或黃金。尼日爾人民需要他們的礦產財富帶來的錢,但大部分將被精英與俄羅斯人勾結盜走。
這裏隻有一件事要做。在烏克蘭擊敗俄羅斯。
一次幾個好結果。
你看過另一個標題了嗎?
擊敗俄羅斯!你在吃什麽快樂藥丸
俄羅斯正在利用烏克蘭缺乏武器和飛機。
這種短缺是西方政策(和 GQP 愚蠢行為)的結果,我主張改變這種“謹慎”的做法。
俄羅斯完全可以被擊敗。
沒錯。如果美國簡單地向烏克蘭提供我們所有的炮彈,這種情況很容易改變。然後國會可以決定是否要為我們的軍隊購買更多。這仍然將是美國參與過的最便宜的戰爭。
夢想家。
烏克蘭必須贏,

俄羅斯必敗無疑。
越快越好。
必勝無疑???
你的核武器在哪裏?
澤內先生剛剛將國家控製權移交給俄羅斯人。他可能會發現俄羅斯人比美國更不守規矩、更不順從——更傾向於追求自己狹隘的經濟利益。如果俄羅斯人想留在俄羅斯,他們不太可能主動辭職。
與美國不同,俄羅斯不會要求你嚐試建立民主。他們會很樂意幫助你壓製任何政治反對派——提供武器和軍事領導。他們也更願意向當權者提供賄賂和回扣。那麽你認為統治這個國家的盜賊政權會支持誰呢?他們的選擇是俄羅斯還是中國。
所以現在郵報正在聽信美國專製暴君的話?我沒有看到新政變暴徒發來的信息中有任何令人反感的東西。肆虐的伊斯蘭恐怖分子很快就會明白為什麽西非迫切需要美國和法國的支持。
殖民主義已經消亡。尼日爾需要獨立,但仍然需要外國援助來資助貪汙。
因此,政變領導人希望繼承其前任與美國的關係。哦,好吧,我相信他會更喜歡瓦格納雇傭兵。
也許美國應該停止訓練這些政變領導人。
隻要澤納的口袋裏裝滿了瓦格納的現金,他和他的新俄羅斯朋友就會過得很好。歸根結底,一切都是為了錢。
聽起來澤納想要權力,並試圖將援助以民主規範和盟友為條件的責任推給美國。
對你寫這篇文章沒有任何抱怨——最近似乎有很多關於應該或不應該寫的意見——但是,我很難為沒有向一個新成立的政變軍政府提供設備、武器和情報而感到不安,這個軍政府對向伊朗出售鈾沒有意見。

整個事情都散發著俄羅斯支持的瓦格納式的惡臭(他們在我們搬出去之前就搬進來了)和中國的虛假信息運動。
“菲在之前的一次采訪中說,美國官員在 12 月的會議上“盡可能明確地做出了選擇”,強調美國援助將暫停,直到尼日爾設定恢複民主的時間表。”
這不是作者所暗示的拜登政府的失敗。這完全是尼日利亞人民的失敗。祝你的新政權好運。現在普京擁有你。
誰為郵報寫頭條新聞?這裏的問題不是美國威脅了尼日爾。美國向這些通過政變上台的新領導人解釋說,如果他們向伊朗出售鈾,我們就不能支持他們。標題難道不應該是這樣的:政變上台,尼日爾政府希望向伊朗出售鈾;美國不會繼續支持。
你的標題似乎暗示我們的政府代表做錯了什麽,而不是采取必要行動來確保美國的安全。
以及它的盟友?
為什麽 Phee 指責尼日爾政府做了她一無所知的事情?這是傲慢和不尊重。
認為說了什麽就成真,這是傲慢和不尊重。
顯然她有信息。
那是什麽信息?
這太搞笑了。人們不可能這麽天真,不是嗎?
俄羅斯支持尼日爾的政變。這是顯而易見的。他們想要在非洲擁有影響力(他們已經擁有了影響力,並且正在迅速擴張),他們想在地緣政治上盡可能地與我們作對,而這是一個輕鬆的機會。

因此,尼日爾的新獨裁者想說什麽就說什麽。擊退美軍幾乎肯定是俄羅斯情報界向他們提供任何援助的先決條件。

當然,如果他們不喜歡我們,他們會和他們的新俄羅斯“朋友”度過一段真正美好的時光,但這似乎是兩個彼此應得的群體。

俄羅斯沒有支持尼日爾的政變。
(編輯)
當然他們支持了。不管有沒有大寫字母,反其道而行之都是幼稚的。納茲普京對生存空間、有用的白癡和好東西的渴望幾乎是無限的。
這種“獨家”是不合情理的。因此,一個俄羅斯支持的獨裁者發動了政變,然而華盛頓郵報卻批評美國沒有支持獨裁者清洗他的“恐怖分子”。明白了。
我沒有這樣讀。但它似乎嚴重依賴讀者去閱讀字裏行間的內容,以弄清楚到底發生了什麽。

我認為他們試圖保持中立,實際上讓美國聽起來不講道理,但很明顯誰隻是在試圖敲詐美國,俄羅斯十多年來一直在推動他們在這個領域的利益。

他們先把鈾賣給伊朗,然後提起“伊拉克大規模殺傷性武器的謊言”,這尤其愚蠢。(人們從來沒有提到薩達姆公開表現得好像他確實有一個計劃,不讓檢查員進來!)
他說他告訴了 Phee 和 Ca

Niger Prime Minister says US 'threats' responsible for broken ties

https://www.voaafrica.com/a/niger-prime-minister-says-us-threats-responsible-for-broken-ties-/7611219.html

14 May 2024 22:48

FILE—Prime Minister Ali Mahaman Lamine Zeine, appointed by the military on his firsr presser in Niamey, Niger September 4, 2023.

Prime Minister Ali Mahaman Lamine Zeine, appointed by the military on his firsr presser in Niamey, Niger September 4, 2023.

 

NIAMEY—Junta-led Niger cut military ties with the United States in March because it threatened sanctions, Prime Minister Ali Mahaman Lamine Zeine said in a Washington Post interview published Tuesday.

Niamey announced in mid-March it was ending a military cooperation agreement with Washington, shortly after a US delegation left the Sahelian country.

Niger has been a key base for counter-terrorism operations in West Africa, with a major US drone base near Agadez city.

Zeine said Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs Molly Phee, who led the delegation's visit, threatened Niamey with sanctions if Niger signed an agreement to sell the uranium it produces to Iran.

"First, you have come here to threaten us in our country. That is unacceptable," Zeine said he told Phee.

"And you have come here to tell us with whom we can have relationships, which is also unacceptable. And you have done it all with a condescending tone and a lack of respect," Zeine recounted.

Asked about Zeine's account, State Department spokesman Vedant Patel did not dispute that Phee presented the junta with a "choice" and said that she was conveying a "coordinated US government position."

Phee offered "a choice that was rooted in our belief in democratic principles and what was in our national security interests," Patel told reporters in Washington.

He said that the United States decided to withdraw forces "in an orderly and responsible" way after realizing that the two sides could not come to an understanding.

The United States in April agreed to withdraw the more than 1,000 American personnel and discussions with Niger are underway.

"The Americans stayed on our soil, doing nothing while the terrorists killed people and burned towns," said Zeine, who has led negotiations with the United States.

"It is not a sign of friendship to come on our soil but let the terrorists attack us.

"We have seen what the United States will do to defend its allies, because we have seen Ukraine and Israel."

After a July coup last year overthrew elected president Mohamed Bazoum, the United States suspended military support.

By contrast, Russia, Turkey and the United Arab Emirates welcomed the new leaders with "open arms," Zeine told the Post.

Following the coup, the junta expelled troops from former colonial power France before the end of 2023 and ramped up ties with Russia, which sent military instructors and equipment in April and May.

US development aid is set to continue with a new agreement worth almost $500 million over three years, according to the Niger Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

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So Wapo wrote an article about a country where a leader took power as the result of a coup and used the coup leader as its primary source of information and perspective.

C’mon.
Yeah.. that bothers me. There’s so much wrong with this slanted article.
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Slanted doesn't begin to describe it. I've seen the US press amplify propaganda from our own government (e.g. Iraq). But this is straight-propaganda for a murderous, illegitimate, military dictatorship.

On top of that, it doesn't hold up to its own internal logic. The article itself specifies that Ms. Phee's visit was "a last ditch effort" after Niger had already threatened to kick US troops out.

Among his chief complaints are that the US didn't accept the illegitimate coup "with open arms" as his fellow autocrats did, that we wouldn't sell the illegitimate government weaponry, and that we threatened sanctions if they sold uranimium to Iran? Are you kidding me?

The main presence of these new allies in Niger appears to be the reconstituted troops from the Wagner Group, who have wreaked havoc and stolen natural resources in half a dozen other African countries.

If you want to argue against a principled (and admittedly imperfect) foreign policy that advances democratic values and human rights, go right ahead. Even though we're facing new challenges in stemming the axis of autocrats who seek interest with other oppresive allies, I'd argue that US interests are still advanced by advancing those principles (again: admittedly imperfectly).

Go ahead and interview the leader of any regime that overthrows a legitimate government simply to gather power and enrich a handful of people. Congratulations on your scoop (an "exclusive" -- whooped-de-do!). But place the situation in more context than the anodine descriptions buried in this piece. And for God's sake, ask tougher questions. That scoop means nothing if its merely a soapbox for a despot's propaganda.
"I've seen the US press amplify propaganda from our own government (e.g. Iraq)."

You can actually see it everyday, right now! Just look at the front page of the New York Times (e.g. Israel). Most of those articles are straight from Israel.
I prefer WAPO write the article and trust me to discern that the information may be suspect due to the source. Better to know what DOS had to navigate than not.

I think the authors made it very clear that we should be suspicious of Mr. Zeine's words. The comments make it clear that most of us caught that.

My only gripe would be about the headline, which isn't the authors fault. WAPO does need some work there.
Nah it s so unbalanced that it doesn’t merit publication. Its accusations without answer from one side - pointless.
Most readers never go to the comments. Most readers take what is written at face value, and worst, this can be used to support more disinformation and propaganda by citing the Post as honest and fair.

This is a propaganda article, one of many from this author.
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I applaud Wapo for making the effort -- which separates it from the other 90% of US journalistic orgs. BBC and The Economist are the two main sources for international coverage.
The Guardian and the BBC are the best for international coverage. Economist and Al Jazeera also great.
Usually MSM reports on Africa are based solely on US government press releases and leaks. It is unusual to quote an African who isn't on the US payroll one way or another.
PM Zeine was not the coup leader. He was a technocrat the coup leaders hired to administer the civilian portions of the government.
Good observation! Love primary sources — unless it's too confusing for you, since this kind of article requires you to think on your own.

Also, can we please get rid of Mary Catherine "Molly" Phee. I've been following her career for a while, and she's a total waste of space.

I have some experience in that difficult part of the world, and, while opposing coups d’etat and supporting democracy are important positions, every one of these situations has complicating characteristics and varying US interests which Congressionally-imposed binding general policies (e.g., cut off all aid) do little to help us address effectively.

Re Asst. Secretary Molly Phee: She is one of the most accomplished diplomats in our system, with significant achievements in service in Cairo, Amman, in Iraq (where she received high praise from our UK ally), at the US Mission to the UN and as Ambassador to South Sudan. And she speaks Arabic, French and Italian. We are fortunate to have her in the Service.

On reading the article i did wonder if the arrogant, inept intervention by Phee was the fruit of drumpf's hollowing out of the State Department?
WaPo does these exclusives, and often times he scratch your head why?

How about writing some interesting news stories that impact many people.

Oh wait, you can find that on the New York Times.
You object to foreign news?
Every article written about Hamas does the same thing. Uses Hamas as a source and presents it as fact. WaPo lost perspective long ago.
“It is not a sign of friendship to come on our soil but let the terrorists attack us. We have seen what the United States will do to defend its allies, because we have seen Ukraine and Israel.”
And the rift appears at least partly based in the U.S. government’s unwillingness to intervene in Niger’s internal civil dispute on behalf of an unelected government. Sounds like a sound policy decision by the U. S.
Let’s ask a corrupt despot bought by Russia for his opinion as to why he kicked out US troops. I’m sure he'll tell the truth.
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It's hard to believe that they don't want to be apart of Joe's America. Always winning. Get Blinkin over there asap
They’d fit right in with Trump’s America, taking power by discarding democratic elections and working with Putin’s Russia who wants despots throughout world. Trump always winning, particularly in getting delays in court cases so he can use autocratic means to escape culpability for criminal actions.
It seems you’re not able to grasp what’s going on.
The United States is a democracy, and supports democracies.
This new government in Niger ousted a democratically elected administration in an illegal coup.
While Trump would embrace the new dictator with open arms, because that’s what he wants to be, Americans who love democracy cannot.

Which do you support: democracy or dictators?
Gonzotic is a well-known paid putin propagandist. Has been for years.
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Well, the US (with help of the UK) helped remove a democratically elected leader in Iran back in the day to put in their own puppet -- who then was a brutal, even vicious dictator. And this made the way for the Mullahs to take over with their own brutality.

Trying to control another country with your own puppets never works out. We are a very ignorant nation.
Shame on you WAPO! What a terrible, misleading headline. According to your own story the US "threat" was that we would stop propping up their country with aid if they didn't restore democracy and stop mistreating/jailing their own people as a result of their illegal military coup. Your headline makes it sound like the US was being a bully, when in fact we were standing up for the weak against a bully. Again, shame on you!
Ah, another nation-builder.
Don't know how you got "nation builder" out of that comment.
The freier's are waking up, mcgloin! Run and hide!
I'm confused, if factual WAPO is simply telling a story based on the information received. Please explain at what point did WAPO take sides. If we only intake information based on what we want to hear, we will go back to living in the dark.
The U.S. didn’t give an ultimatum. Did you read the article? It criticizes the U.S. by sort of taking the side of Niger in indicating the U.S. was bullying. That’s an opinion by Niger.
We absolutely have an ultimatum, why are you saying otherwise? You can think the ultimatum is rational and moral (restore democracy as we define it, or else lose military support) or you can think it's bad. But we definitely pressed the new government to make a choice with incentives, with a time constraint. That is an ultimatum.
WAPO took sides in the headline, when they accused the USA of making a "threat" against Niger.

Without context, "threat" is taken as that's of violence. That is not start happened here.

WAPOs editors are professional wordsmiths so they know when they are being misleading.
WAPOs editors are professional wordsmiths

I’m not so sure of that.
Did you read the headline?
It blames the US for promoting democracy if you read the article.
I agree. The article has a negative US spin to it. Niger leader feels condescension? Maybe they’re just insecure. Why would the U.S. jump into a fight just after a coup anyway?


Maybe because 'Coups are us'?
Because the US policy demanding that every nation be a democracy is unachievable and DOES NOT SERVE AMERICAN INTERESTS.

Congress must re-write the limiting laws to allow American institutions to work with foreign governments to serve American interests. Then the State Dept must get its head out of its keister and serve our interests.
"US policy demanding that every nation be a democracy is unachievable and DOES NOT SERVE AMERICAN INTERESTS."

democracy does serve American interests.

Authoritarians oppose American interests with lies and violence.

No ideal is 100% "achievable," but that doesn't mean we should just surrender to violent authotarians, or help them.

Take your anti-democracy propaganda elsewhere.
Are we no longer accepting of news that has a negative US spin? Thought this was a DEMOCRACY?
No... It was a terrible lack of cultural sensitivity. In many parts of the world, to go into a home (country) and tell them how to do things is an atrocious affront.

They are not the US where we allow other countries (like Israel) to come lecture us.

We might see that as insecurity if one doesn't like it. In some cultures it is seen as grave disrespect of your host.
“Shame on you if you can’t dance too.”
They are just reporting the position of the Niger government. Isn't that newsworthy? They also got the US government reply on the topic - it's up to you to decide which side is trustworthy and which is not.
This is a ridiculous article. Wagner, or what's left of it, helped stage the coup in Niger. Of course the US isn't going to give a bunch of anti democracy authoritarians weapons. And besides simply repeating lies as well as Ru disinfo the reporter just had to get that dig in at Biden. At this point it's surprising y'all's weather reports & movie reviews don't include some attack on Biden.
This is a ridiculous comment. Just because you don't like the facts it doesn't mean the reporter did anything wrong. Nothing in the article suggests that the U.S. should "give a bunch of anti democracy authoritarians weapons". The reporter was simply reporting what was said and done by both sides. It's called journalism. You should look up the concept.
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Were they, though? There are no independent statements attributed to anyone but Mr. Zeine. The US position is as reported by Mr. Zeine — there are no cited statements by US officials, or even by, say, university Niger experts.

Edited to add -- there are two paragraphs sourced to "a U.S. official," but no named citations. Everything else is cited to Mr. Zeine.
"In response to Zeine’s comments, a U.S. official said: “The message to the CNSP in March was a coordinated U.S. government position, delivered in a professional manner, in response to valid concerns about developments in Niger. The CNSP was presented with a choice, not an ultimatum, about whether they wished to continue their partnership with us, respectful of our democratic values and national security interests."

This was fairly far down in the article; it was definitely written to report Niger's statements and point of view, but it did incude a rebuttal by US officials.

My first reaction was that it was the coup that created the rift in US-Niger relations, not US "bullying."

We have lost an important ally in Africa, which is very concerning.

On the other hand, Niger has also lost an important ally in the US.

Zeine's choice.

Unfortunate for the people of Niger, though, to lose their democracy and to find themselves Russia's newest 'friend.'
Your comment is a blatant lie. Did you even read the article?
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Journalism doesn't need prurient headlines to sell the story.
Based on the headline, I expected that there was some trump appointed jerk making impossible demands on Niger.
Nope, it was a russian backed autocrat complaining that he can't get freebies from US taxpayers like our allies get.
"Journalism doesn't need prurient headlines to sell the story."

You sweet summer child. We've been reading Yellow Journalism for over a century.
????????????????The United States doesn’t seem to bother when they give anti democracy authoritarians weapons and support. Look at how many States worldwide the United States helps that are absolutely disgusting
Israel
You can't change U.S. policy on supporting dictators without changing that policy one dictator at a time.

Biden could have just embraced the new government on behalf of global oil companies, but instead is putting pressure on this new one to bring back democracy.

Isn't that what you would want?
There's a meme going around that shows the recent Northern Light event which says, " Sky's gay now! Because of woke." WaPo would replace woke with Biden. This article is, as you noted, simply a one sided propaganda piece. The author can join the infamous NYT reporter Walter Duranty in the Hall of Shame now.
Exactly.
Right, what about all the weapons we sell to the Saudis? We even support a base there.
Saudi Arabia would like to have a word with you.
Of course the US isn't going to give a bunch of anti democracy authoritarians weapons.
Nonsense. Explain weapons sold to Saudi Arabia
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Our base was there to provide intelligence to the French on N African jihadists in the desert attacking Mali, Burkina Faso and Niger. With the French ousted from all three countries, our base is no longer useful.

We don't need Niger's uranium or gold. Niger's people need the money from their mineral wealth but most of it will be stolen by the elites in concert with the Russians.
Only one thing to do here. Defeat Russia in Ukraine.
Several good outcomes at once.
Have you seen the other headline?
Defeat Russia! What happy pills are you taking
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Russia is making use of Ukraine's lack of weapons and planes.
This shortage is an outcome of Western policies (and GQP idiocy), I am advocating for a change in this 'cautious' approach.
Russia is entirely defeatable.
Exactly. That could easily change if the US simply provided ALL our artillery ammunition to Ukraine. Then Congress could decide whether they want to buy more for our troops. It still would be the cheapest war the US ever was involved in.
Dreamer.
Ukraine must win, Russia must loose.
The sooner the better.
Must win???
Where are your Nukes?
Mr Zeine has just handed over control of his country to the Russians. He may find them a little more unruly and less compliant than the USA - and more inclined to pursue their own narrow economic self interest. And if it suits their purposes to stay the Russians are unlikely voluntarily to quit on demand.
Russia, unlike the U.S., doesn’t ask that you try and create a democracy. They’ll gladly help you shut down any political opposition - providing arms and military leadership. They are also more amenable to providing bribes and kickbacks to those in power. So who do you think the kleptocracy that runs the country will go for? Their choice is Russia or China.
So now the Post is taking the word of a despotic tyrant over the USA? I don’t see anything in the message sent the new coup making thugs that is offensive. The Islamic terrorists on the rampage will soon make it clear why American and the French support is desperately needed for West Africa.
Colonialism is dead. Niger needs to stand on its own, but stills needs foreign aid to fund the graft.
So a coup leader expects to inherit the relationship his predecessor had with the US. Oh well, I'm sure he'll like Wagner mercenaries better.
Maybe the US should stop training these coup leaders.
So long as Zeine gets his pockets stuffed with cash by Wagner, and he will, everything will be just fine with him and his new Russian friends. At the end of he day, it's all about the cash money.
It sounds like Zeine wants power and is trying to shift blame to the US for making aid conditional on democratic norms and allies.
No complaints about you writing the article — seems to be a lot of opinions what should or shouldn’t be written about lately — but, I’m having a hard time feeling upset about not providing equipment, weapons, and intel to a brand new coup established junta that is fine with selling uranium to Iran.

Whole thing stinks of Russian backed Wagnertypes (who are moving in before we’ve even moved out) and Chinese misinformation campaigns.
"Phee said in a previous interview that American officials “made the choice as stark and clear” as they could during the December meeting, emphasizing that U.S. assistance would remain suspended until Niger set a timeline for restoring democracy."
This is not a failure of the Biden administration as the author implies. It is solely a failure of the Nigerian people. Good luck with your new regime. Putin owns you now.
Who writes the headlines for the Post? The issue here is not that the US threatened Niger. The US explained to these new leaders, who were put in place through a coup, that we cannot support them if they sell uranium to Iran. Should the headline not have been something like: Coup Installed Nigerien Government Wishes to Sell Uranium to Iran; US will not continue to support.
Your headline seems to imply that our government representative has done something wrong, rather than the actions necessary to attempt to ensure the safety and security of the US.
And its allies?
Why did Phee accuse the Nigerien govt. of something she had no information on? That is arrogance and disrespect.
It's arrogance and disrespect to think that saying something makes it true
Obviously she had information.
And what is that information?
This is hilarious. People can't actually be this naive, can they?

Russia backed the coup in Niger. It's painfully obvious. They want influence in Africa (which they have already and are rapidly expanding) and they want to screw with us geopolitically wherever they can, and this was an easy opportunity.

So Niger's new dictator can say whatever he wants. Seeing off US forces was almost certainly a precondition of whatever aid the Russian intelligence community offered them.

Of course if they disliked us, they will have a truly great time with their new Russian "friends", but this seems like two groups who deserve one another.
RUSSIA DID NOT BACK THE COUP IN NIGER.
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Of course they did. It is naïve to think opposite - with or without caps lock. NazPutin’s hunger for lebensraum, useful idiots and goodies is almost limitless.
This “exclusive” is unconscionable. So a Russian-supported despot staged a coup, and yet WaPo criticizes the US for not supporting the despot as he purged his “terrorists.” Got it.
I didn't read it like that. It did seem to heavily rely on the reader to read between the lines to figure out what is actually going on, though.

I think they were trying to be too neutral and actually made it sound like the US is being unreasonable, when it's fairly clear who is just trying to shake the US down and Russia has been pushing their interests in this area for over a decade now.

That they'd sell Uranium to Iran then bring up the "lie ahout WMDs in Iraq" is particularly .. stupid. (people never mention that Saddam was openly acting like he did have a program and wouldn't let inspectors in!)
He said he told Phee and Campbell that Niger would rather have American investors than soldiers.
Basically they want American dollars and Russian bodyguards.
Duh!
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What a dummy! He thinks he can get investors after welcoming the Russians and kicking out the U.S.? He thinks the West are fools. He wants investors to build the resource infrastructure so he can then nationalize it because of the bad westerners “demands”.
He's talking to China, not dumb Americans who give aid in exchange for resources but won't invest in infrastructure. Why would anyone align with the US when all it does in third world countries is try to export democracy when they can get all the aid and infracture without any peaky political meddling?
“If American investors arrived, we would give them what they wanted,” he recounted telling the States Department officials. “We have uranium. We have oil. We have lithium. Come, invest. It is all we want.”
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Let's not get bent out shape because an African dictator is making demands that change on a weekly basis. More or less, he wants our money to do whatever he wants to do.
Nope. He said that if US troops weren't going to join their fight against terrorism, then what were they doing in Niger?
This is a perfectly rational response. But the inability of US readers to stomach any external criticism of US policy is little short of hilarious.
I have a healthy skepticism of US foreign policy toward non-aligned countries. But Niger seems to have invited all of the US' adversaries into town before talking to or finalizing new deals with the US.

Of course the US will be skeptical of a military coup government that suddenly is visiting Iran and setting up Russian troops on the other side of an airbase.
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Zeine said Niger was asking for additional military equipment and what it considered a more equitable relationship between the two forces, according to his account.

Translation - Zeine was asking for additional money for his account
and if the US will not cooperate- Russia and China will.

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