How absurd! Accuse the commander-in-chief "the founder of ISIS?" -
Why didn't he call "British queen was the founder of the USA?"
or "George W. Bush, "the founder of ISIS?" -
Drama king (**), entertaining, that's all about him.
Give me a break! Check your dictionary "founder" -
all headlines - How absurd! He keeps droping atomic bomb - the all world reacts: Crazy! so much distracted from real issues! Can you afford to have such reckless? Damn it.
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** A male drama queen. A male member of the human species who cannot control his emotions and otherwise goes out of control in on an emotional outrage.
I wish he weren't such a drama king!
He's seriously acting like SUCH a drama king, Gosh.
A self-consumed man who likes to stir up drama. For instance: He might like to cause cat fights between two women for the pleasure derived from seeing two women fight over him.
Unlike a Drama Queen (be it a male or female one) who overreacts over anything, a Drama King enjoys drawing these traits out in those around him. Especially if it can draw more attention to himself.
Those girls are screaming at each other! And Look at the drama king. He is just eating this up.
Donald Trump's North Carolina state director allegedly pulled a gun on multiple Trump staffers but was never admonished by the Trump campaign, according to a lawsuit filed Wednesday.
More than 70 Republicans have signed an open letter to Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus urging him to stop spending any money to help Donald Trump win in November and shift those contributions to Senate and House races.
Donald J. Trump at a rally in Sunrise, Fla., on Wednesday. Credit Scott McIntyre for The New York Times. Donald J. Trump, reaffirming his contention that President Obama was effectively a “founder” of the Islamic State terrorist group, said Thursday ...
Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump accused President Obama of being the "founder" of the Islamic State militant group. Speaking at a rally August 10, Trump also said Hillary Clinton was the group's "co-founder." (Reuters)
Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump accused President Obama of being the "founder" of the Islamic State militant group. Speaking at a rally August 10, Trump also said Hillary Clinton was the group's "co-founder."Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump accused President Obama of being the "founder" of the Islamic State militant group. (Reuters)
Despite Donald Trump's repeated assertions — on Wednesday night at a rally in Florida and again on Thursday morning in an interview with CNBC — President Obama is not the founder of the Islamic State (or ISIS, in Trump's non-Post-style-compliant usage).
The militant group, which started referring to itself as the Islamic State three years ago, was formed in 2002 by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, according to the Mapping Militants project at Stanford University. Originally called Jama'at al-Tawhid wa'l Jihad, it joined al-Qaeda to form al-Qaeda in Iraq — and then, in 2013, split from al-Qaeda to become the Islamic State.
Obama no more founded the Islamic State than shopkeepers paying extortion money created the Mafia. Which, of course, would seem to have been Trump's actual point: That it was Obama's foreign policy that created the space for the Islamic State to gain power. Trump has made a similar argument before. At a rally in Mississippi in January, he claimed that "Hillary Clinton created ISIS with Obama," in her position as secretary of state. In June, he said the same thing during a "60 Minutes" interview: Hillary Clinton invented the terror group.
The extent to which Obama deserves blame for allowing the Islamic State to expand in the months after the Syrian civil war began or credit for the United States' (belated) focus on the group is a subject best left to others. But, regardless, Trump later denied that was actually his point, which we'll get to. So let's instead focus on how Trump's rhetoric overlaps so poorly with his campaign effort.
Donald Trump speaks at a campaign event at Trump Doral golf course in Miami last month. (Carlo Allegri/Reuters)
Donald Trump likes to outrage. He prides himself on it. He's got the perfect excuse, rolled out a year ago this week: He's simply not "politically correct." He's not PC, he told Fox News' Megyn Kelly in the first Republican debate last August, which is why he makes jokes about the physical appearance of women. Trump avoids the nuanced pronouncements of more experienced politicians and is clearly comfortable with being imprecise in how he makes his points. In his eyes, he's simply telling it like it is.
"All I do is tell the truth," he said during his interview with CNBC on Thursday. "I am a truth-teller."
Part of what motivates Trump to make questionable statements is that he feeds off the approval of his base. He has been repeating the line about Clinton being responsible for the rise of the Islamic State for a while. But the response from blaming Obama was different. His description of the president as the founder of the Islamic State at that rally this week gained volume and frequency as the crowd ate it up. It was almost Pavlovian, watching Trump ride the wave of applause as he said, over and over, that the U.S. president had founded the group.
Trump has made other comments that attempted to link the president to the terrorist group. In June, he implied that Obama was perhaps sympathetic to terrorists, telling an interviewer on Fox News that "we're led by a man that either is not tough, not smart or has something else in mind."
"And the something else in mind — people can't believe it," he continued. "People cannot believe that President Obama is acting the way he acts and can't even mention the words radical Islamic terrorism. There's something going on."
Polling subsequently showed that there was a segment of the Republican base that agreed with Trump's suggestion that the president might be sympathetic to terrorists. A survey last fall found that 43 percent of Republicans think Obama is Muslim, despite his regularly noting that he isn't. There's a reinforcement back and forth: Trump embraces arguments common among a subset of the conservative right and that subset applauds his candidacy.
This may also help explain Trump's bigger flub from earlier this week. On Tuesday, he said at a rally that "Second Amendment people" might be the only way to keep Clinton from appointing justices once she was president. Despite Trump's attempts to reframe the comments as somehow suggesting he was talking about electoral organizing, it was pretty clear that he was picking up on a dark joke that's not uncommon on the right: That at some point government overreach might need to be addressed with the use of the weapons the Second Amendment protects. He was saying something that he probably knew resonated with many people who like him.
Politicians always pander to their bases, but it rarely looks like this. Trump does his "truth-telling," which often means saying things that have been an undercurrent on the right for years. He gets loud appreciation for saying those things. It's a spin cycle.
Most politicians wouldn't do that — mainly because they're trying to expand their support outward. Hillary Clinton could say a lot of things that would be applauded by the Democratic far left, but that's not who she's trying to appeal to. (Well, also they probably wouldn't think she was being sincere, which is another problem.)
Clinton is focused on the general election, making a push to get Republican voters to pick her over Trump — or at least to stay home on Election Day. At the same time, she has a tightly controlled operation that's contacting voters on the ground and television spots running on the air. She has local surrogates making her case across the country.
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Trump has ... Trump. He isn't running ads, he doesn't have folks in the field. It's himself, and recent reports suggest that there's not much that even top-level staff can do to get him to control his message. Again, the point about Obama's foreign policy, implemented by then-Secretary of State Clinton, can be made without accusing them of founding a group of murderous terrorists or saying that Obama is, as Trump put it on CNBC on Thursday, the Islamic State's "most valuable player." But Trump has proven to be immune to efforts to hew to more acceptable talking points.
One way a campaign staff would hold leverage over their candidate is by citing polling to show how the opponent is stacking up, or not. In this case, it should be easy: Trump, they can say, you are trailing badly and need to change what you're doing. But Trump continues to say publicly that he's doing well, that he gets big crowds at rallies, that he beat everyone in the primaries. Does he actually believe that he's on a viable path to the presidency? Maybe. And if so, why stop speaking off the cuff?
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What's more, Trump almost always refuses to declare that anything he has done is a mistake. His explanation for the "Second Amendment" comments doesn't make sense; it would have been simple to say he misspoke. He didn't.
On Thursday morning, Trump spoke with conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt about the Islamic State comment. From a transcript, reported by NBC's Katy Tur:
HEWITT: Last night you said that the president was the founder of ISIS. I know what you meant, you meant that he created the vacuum, he lost the peace.
TRUMP: No, I meant that he's the founder of ISIS, I do. He was the most valuable player. I gave him the most valuable player award. I give her too, by the way.
HEWITT: But he's not sympathetic to them. He hates them; he's trying to kill them.
TRUMP: He was the found, his -- the way he got out of Iraq was the founding of ISIS.
HEWITT: By using the term "founder," they're hitting you on this again. Mistake?
TRUMP: No, it's no mistake. Everyone's liking it. I think they're liking it.
Emphasis added.
Trump asked Hewitt if he liked it; Hewitt did not. But as long as everyone else does, as long as the fans at those rallies do, that's what matters most.
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When Donald Trump mucks things up, the first person to let him know is usually Republican Party boss Reince Priebus. Almost every day, Trump picks up his cell phone to find Priebus on the line, urging him to quash some feud or clarify an incendiary remark.
The Wisconsin lawyer has been a dutiful sherpa to the Manhattan developer, guiding him through the dizzying altitude of the presidential race and lobbying the GOP to unite behind a figure who threatens its future.
But every bond has its breaking point. For this partnership, the moment nearly arrived in early August. Priebus was on vacation when he learned that Trump had declined to endorse Paul Ryan, the Speaker of the House and a close friend. The chairman had a frank message for the nominee, according to two Republican officials briefed on the call. Priebus told Trump that internal GOP polling suggested he was on track to lose the election. Priebus explained to Trump that Priebus had a responsibility to the entire Republican Party, not just the presidential nominee.
There is no doubt that the possibility Republicans will all but abandon Trump now haunts his struggling campaign. Since his convention in Cleveland, Trump has done almost nothing right by traditional standards. He has picked fights with senior Republicans and Gold Star parents, invited Russian spies to meddle in U.S. democracy, appeared to joke about gun enthusiasts’ prematurely removing a U.S. President from office. He’s shuffled campaign messages like playing cards and left GOP elders fretting that he lacks the judgment to be Commander in Chief. During a dismal two-week stretch, he surrendered a narrow lead over Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton and now trails by an average of 8 points in recent nationwide polls.
http://time.com/4447985/inside-donald-trump-meltdown/
They will be successful against the Rubio/Bush/Romney types, only to go down in flames in the general election. How many times will the grown-ups in the GOP hit themselves over the head before they decide they need a new party
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Harold Bortner
2:51 PM PDT
Hillary most notable accomplishment as SOS was bombing Libya into Islamism.
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TotalKaos
2:51 PM PDT
Bush warned that withdrawing against the advice of our military commanders would result in “mass killings on a horrific scale.” Check. We’re now seeing mass killings on a horrific scale — summary executions, women and children buried alive, people being crucified, the attempted genocide of the Yazidis and two American journalists beheaded.
Bush warned that withdrawal would “allow the terrorists to establish a safe haven in Iraq to replace the one they lost in Afghanistan.” Check. The Islamic State now controls a safe haven the size of Belgium.
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Ranger Horse
2:51 PM PDT
Meanwhile, Hillary as SOS knew arms we were sending to Syria were going to ISIS
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MasterOfReality
2:50 PM PDT
Least occurring word sequence in future history books: President Trump
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seaheather
2:50 PM PDT
Is it possible that Trump believes the people at his rallies represent the American public?? Why are we being subjected to this gross circus? Why can't the media realize that its reporting on these trumped up sensations on a daily basis is just feeding into it? Maybe the social experiment that Trump is enacting -- the game of 'how long can I get away with this?" could be foreshortened by a savy media that refuses air time to fiction and makes it known that they only have time for facts. Without Cable news repeating and amplifying Trump's lies, they would implode for lack of attention. The media should know they are helping Trump and harming the rest of us in the process.
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TotalKaos
2:50 PM PDT
At a White House news conference on July 12, 2007, Bush declared: “I know some in Washington would like us to start leaving Iraq now. To begin withdrawing before our commanders tell us we’re ready would be dangerous for Iraq, for the region and for the United States. It would mean surrendering the future of Iraq to al-Qaeda. It would mean that we’d be risking mass killings on a horrific scale. It would mean we’d allow the terrorists to establish a safe haven in Iraq to replace the one they lost in Afghanistan. It would mean we’d be increasing the probability that American troops would have to return at some later date to confront an enemy that is even more dangerous.”
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Ranger Horse
2:50 PM PDT
What an absurd headline this article has, just another leftist journalist's wishful thinking...
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dofc
2:50 PM PDT
Wait for it, wait for it. Next week, Trump will claim he alone can defeat ISIS with his comb over.
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Harold Bortner
2:49 PM PDT
ISIS is Islam's ACORN
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RichStacy
2:47 PM PDT
Trump is a complete nitwit -- his statement is idiotic! He is the worst candidate ever.
Here s what he should have said -- and no one could have denied the truth of it:
When Obama took office, Iraq was a fairly stable place. But he pulled our troops out prematurely, and failed to leave a sufficient residual force. That created a vacuum, which has now been filled by ISIS and Iran.
Then he drew his infamous "red line" in the Syrian sand and when Assad stepped right over it by gassing his own people, he turned and ran like a little girl. That showed both our enemies and our friends that we are weak and cannot be trusted. Now, our friends do not trust us and our enemies do not fear us. This is evidence of a feckless and incompetent foreign policy, detrimental to the security interests of the United States.
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CauseISaidSo
2:49 PM PDT
Except for the fact that repubs refused to authorize the action in Syria.
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presto668
2:50 PM PDT
"When Obama took office, Iraq was a fairly stable place."
Ahahahahahaha, stop it, you're killing me.
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CauseISaidSo
2:47 PM PDT
"He was the founder of ISIS, absolutely. The way he removed our troops. Shouldn't have gone in. I was against the war in Iraq even though I was a civilian and no one cared. I was totally against it even though sifs [sic] civilian so nobody cared. I wouldn't have gone into Iraq. That was a horrible mistake. One of the worst mistakes in the history of our country we destabilized the Middle East. We've been paying the price of it for years. But he was absolutely the founder. In fact, he gets in sports they have awards he gets the most valuable player award. Him and Hillary. She gets it too. I gave her co-founder if you really looked at this speech. I think you probably did. But he and Hillary get the most valuable player award having to do with Iraq. And having to do with the ISIS situation or as he would call it ISIL. He calls it ISIL because nobody else does and probably wants to bother people by using another term. Whether it's more accurate or not. Most people call it ISIS; he calls it ISIL. It's ISIS. He was the founder of ISIS and so was she. I call them co-founders."
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Harold Bortner
2:47 PM PDT
Obama is only an ISIS co-founder.
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TotalKaos
2:47 PM PDT
No , he meant what he said and he is mostly correct- Al Qaeda and a minority faction formed ISIS , Barry's JV team. They took over Syria came back to Iraq and supplied themselves with American armaments....the good chit too. Tanks, Humvee's .50cals....tankers , -real assault weapons too BTW- etc etc..... Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi: The Isis chief with the ambition to overtake al-Qaida which he did under which president , Bush , nope , yup Barry again , who called ISIS in briefings the JV team. They mopped up Iraq -because we left early- and had no status of forces agreement while who was president, yup, Barry again......
Remember this? : "I am very optimistic about -- about Iraq. I mean, this could be one of the great achievements of this administration. You're going to see 90,000 American troops come marching home by the end of the summer. You're going to see a stable government in Iraq that is actually moving toward a representative government," said Biden. Was this Bush's VP , nope , Barry's.........
"We had an agreement that the president could have signed that would have kept 10,000 troops, less than we have in Korea, that could have created the stability that would have allowed for Iraq to progress,"
Obama ran on the campaign pledge of bringing a responsible end to the Iraq War, and announced shortly after taking office that combat operations would end in 2010. - No status of forces agreement was signed, yup Barry again . Had to fulfill a campaign promise to the lemmings.
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presto668
2:49 PM PDT
"Al Qaeda and a minority faction formed ISIS"
And what year did that happen?
Go ahead, check.
Who was president then?
Go ahead, check again if you need to.
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Liam-Still
2:45 PM PDT
Wow. Hillary has shattered another glass ceiling by being the first female co-founder of a Sunni Muslim Terrorist organization. Who knew that ISIS was so progressive?!
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GeoType
2:46 PM PDT
^ most stupid comment today...so far.
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DaveB1971
2:47 PM PDT
I think that was well-played sarcasm.
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GeoType
2:48 PM PDT
no. It was not.
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PrnSp
2:44 PM PDT
Manafort has Trump on a tight leash, too bad he forgot to put that muzzle on him
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Liam-Still
2:46 PM PDT
He needs to use a choke chain.
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DocinDC
2:44 PM PDT
If Trump were to be elected, the motto of the U.S. would have to be changed from:
"E Pluribus Unum"
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"Non Compos Mentis"
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Harold Bortner
2:50 PM PDT
Why take the Democratic party motto if Trump is elected?
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Huckleberry Joe
2:43 PM PDT
Trump and his supporters that excuse all of his childish nonsense are pathetic and a blemish on our country.
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Skyline1
2:42 PM PDT [Edited]
Every day Trump appears to be a little more wild and crazy than the day before. Talking about Megyn Kelly's menstrual period was really strange and vulgar, but here we are today and Trump makes the outlandish and ridiculous claim that Obama and Clinton founded ISIS. Clearly from bad to worse.
Normally I would agree that children of a candidate are not responsible for his behavior, but these three ADULT children advising Trump's campaign really need to at least stop agreeing with him and thereby encouraging this horrid behavior. Trump has become a national and world wide embarrassment.
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GeoType
2:41 PM PDT
I'm not a professional health care provider, but I would peg Trumps body mass index [BMI] at about 35+...in the morbidly obese category.
Worse, Trump thinks President Obama is transgender.
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PrnSp
2:41 PM PDT
Trump makes Palin sound coherent
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Q--man
2:48 PM PDT
Oooh, that's really cruel.
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dofc
2:41 PM PDT
Based on the what he says and his incoherent sentences Trump must be a coke head.
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HeavyD1
2:43 PM PDT
A feat formerly considered impossible.
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Kay Walsh
2:41 PM PDT
Twisting his meaning AGAIN ! When Obama pulled all the troops out of Iraq he is responsible for the rise of ISIS.
Stupid nit picking again. The people know better.
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Kristie Wang
2:43 PM PDT
you mean the people that think global warming is a hoax from china? who purged the ba'athists again?
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dofc
2:46 PM PDT
Funny, ISIS was around in 2003, long before any troops left Iraq in 2011. And Obama was following the withdraw time set by Bush.
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presto668
2:46 PM PDT
Uh, no. ISIS existed before Obama even took office.
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kiwipete
2:46 PM PDT
or the people in the pointy white hats?
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DaveB1971
2:46 PM PDT
Try not to be stupid.
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HeavyD1
2:40 PM PDT
Among Trump's many toxic traits we can confirm that he is belligerently stupid.
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CauseISaidSo
2:40 PM PDT
Good Lord! Who can even follow what he's talking about. The train wreck is coming, and it isn't going to be pretty. But make no mistake, it is coming!
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BuyGones
2:39 PM PDT
In 2009, our current President's first year in office, the total tax revenue taken in was $2.1 trillion, yet the administration outspent that revenue, i.e., ran a deficit of, $1.549 trillion (in other words, the government spent $3.6+ trillion combined, of which $1.549 was more than we took in as a country). Last year, 2015, the federal government took in a RECORD of $3.25 trillion in taxes from Americans (something like an average $21,000+ from EVERYONE with a job), yet STILL spent $439 billion more than we took in. In other words, the federal government spent $3.64 trillion, of which $439 billion was money spent over what was taken from Americans in taxes. Yes, he is spending less over taxes, but ONLY because he has taken in a whopping 50% more in taxes from us! Yet STILL outspends what we take in. In fact, the current President outspent revenue by over a trillion dollars for every year he was in office until 2013, when taxes went from $2.45 trillion to $2.77 trillion, and the amount spent OVER taxes taken was $718 billion. BUT, if he hadn't taken in another $330 billion in taxes from us, his deficit spending STILL would have topped a $1 trillion!
That's the actual facts.
This spending over what we take in has created an $18 trillion dollar plus national DEBT as of 2015, which debt is currently over $19.4 trillion by year's end. The interest continues to compound on our debt (because we are not paying it off) and is also increasing because every year we spend more than we take in. As a result, the debt is currently climbing by something like $1 million each minute. Check out the National Debt clock here:
http://www.usdebtclock.org
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MasterOfReality
2:41 PM PDT
Debt as % of GDP was much higher after WW2. Obama has reduced the deficit every year to set up another Clinton SURPLUS. Perfect!
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BuyGones
2:42 PM PDT
Not true:
Debt reached 49% of GDP in 1940, then zoomed to 119% of GDP BECAUSE OF WORLD WAR II. However, the debt had been steadily paid down for the next 35 years, rose back to 50% during the cold war/iraq war. In 2014, under the current administration, it was back to 120.6% of GDP.
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MasterOfReality
2:45 PM PDT [Edited]
Wrong, it's not 120% right now. And we have an economic revolution coming. 6 Trillion of the new debt came from stupid wars of BuCheney and a lot more came from simultaneous cut in taxes for the uber wealthy. Clinton 1 left us with a surplus. So will Clinton 2.
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BuyGones
2:49 PM PDT
You're right, according to the latest figures, its 121%
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HeavyD1
2:42 PM PDT
More people working, sustained growth, more revenue from taxes. I know it's hard but try to keep up.
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BuyGones
2:44 PM PDT
Try paying mortgages, health insurance, school expenses and live on a middle class income now. Everything is going up but income, and taxes get steeper. I know it's hard, but try to keep up.
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BuyGones
2:45 PM PDT
Debt increasing to those limits? That's growth? If you or I outspent our income like that we'd be... bankrupt. And we are.
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CauseISaidSo
2:43 PM PDT
How much of this can be attributed to waging two wars, which were never factored into the debt, and putting in place massive tax cuts for the wealthy? That was done by the previous administration.
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BuyGones
2:47 PM PDT
The tax cuts (for everyone) only reduced tax income from $2.025 trillion in 2000, to $1.991 trillion is 2001.
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CynCity
2:39 PM PDT
A Trump supporter is claiming, Hillary is in touch with OJ Simpson and promised him a pardon. ~ I have laughter tears!
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Tedow
2:38 PM PDT
I'm hearing lots of people say that Trump isn't releasing his tax returns because of his massive donations to NAMBLA. Say it ain't so, Donald!
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MasterOfReality
2:42 PM PDT
I'm hearing that from a lot of people too.
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AmericanValues
2:38 PM PDT
So if Trump muslim ban rules apply, no one should travel out of US. Since he said Obama created ISIS so based on his logic our country has been compromised from terrorism.
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LtCol Liberal USMC Ret
2:36 PM PDT
Trump is trying to get kicked out of the race, but his true believers and the losers, not leaders, of the GOOP are to morally handicapped, they can't do anything. Where is Turtle Neck and SleazeHead when you need them.
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CauseISaidSo
2:38 PM PDT
Marching in their hip boots.
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sunnyyoder
2:36 PM PDT
If 43 percent of them think Obama is muslim, then Republicans are even more stupid than I thought.
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LtCol Liberal USMC Ret
2:37 PM PDT
They are.
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jammasterk
2:38 PM PDT
That number has actually come down. It is impossible to underestimate how stupid the GOP base has become.
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Kristie Wang
2:39 PM PDT
to be fair, i don't identify trumpkins as republicans. just angry and hurting
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CauseISaidSo
2:36 PM PDT
"Well, I have a lot of support within Republicans. But whenever somebody doesn't support me, it becomes a bigger story. You know, I just -- look. When I won when I beat these 17 people because there were really 18 if you think. When I beat the 17 people, I wasn't exactly making myself popular. And I wasn't an insider. I was an outsider. Because of the fact -- I used to be like establishment. And then when I ran, I was the opposite of establishment. And I beat these people very badly. All right? So all of a sudden -- and that's when I did best."
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dofc
2:35 PM PDT
Trump is a joke and soon to be a big loser.
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JohnTheMann
2:36 PM PDT
Yuge. A Yuuuuuuge loser.
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AmericanValues
2:34 PM PDT
Folks he actually or literally meant "Most Valuable President". Dishonest media always twists his facts Wink
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LtCol Liberal USMC Ret
2:34 PM PDT
ISIS is having its assssssssssssssss kicked right now. If this continues they will no longer be a viable battlefield fighting unit. So, Damaged Donnie and the rest of the right wing nuts, Obama's approach to ISIS is working.
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MasterOfReality
2:39 PM PDT
Slow and steady gets the job done—not talk.
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CauseISaidSo
2:31 PM PDT
"So we need to fix our country. We've spent so much money in the Middle East. $4 trillion they're saying now. That means we spent more than that. But we've spent all this money in the Middle East. And by the way, we are now further away from something happening in the Middle East than if we did nothing. Had we done nothing, we would have been in better shape in the Middle East we spent $4 trillion and maybe even 5 -- and we are right now much further away, I mean, like not even close, much worse shape than had we done nothing."
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wfu13
2:31 PM PDT
If Trump knows the election is rigged, why doesn't he just drop out now ?
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CynCity
2:32 PM PDT
His mouth rigged it
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CynCity
2:32 PM PDT
His mouth rigged it
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PrnSp
2:35 PM PDT
It's only rigged if he loses. Just like the media is biased when the stupid crap he spews is reported
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iscarhey
2:31 PM PDT
The man's crazy. However the people of our nation may regard Clinton -- I am among the many who genuinely like and respect her -- pray that our fellow citizens don't elect this madman with no moral compass and no capacity for empathy.
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CynCity
2:33 PM PDT
I also like and admire her.
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hawk41
2:37 PM PDT
I'm starting to like her more and more.
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MasterOfReality
2:30 PM PDT
The Pizza Rat has more class than Dangerous Donald Dork. Who eats NY pizza with a knife and fork for Chrissake? Worst. Candidate. Ever.
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Interstate36
2:31 PM PDT
Chris Christie knows how to eat a pie.
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DesMoinesDude
2:32 PM PDT
He didn't want to spill on that beautiful, gorgeous Trump dress shirt made in China.
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hawk41
2:39 PM PDT
I hope the pizza rat and his family are O.K. I also hope that Donald Trump dissolves in his own fluids.
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cmsatown
2:30 PM PDT
Trump lied
GOP died
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DesMoinesDude
2:30 PM PDT
Dear The Donald: If the election is rigged, and you happen to win, then what? Will you resign?
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wfu13
2:29 PM PDT
Trump supporters may not do a lot of winning, but they sure do a lot of whining.
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cmsatown
2:29 PM PDT
Obama invented skynet..saw it on that show Terminator 2.
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Sparkie123
2:29 PM PDT
Wonder how Fox News will handle this one
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wfu13
2:30 PM PDT
They won't.
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AmericanValues
2:30 PM PDT
They will ready made Benghazi and email stuff!! Lumpy and Bill will make the evening pleasant for Fox news thirsty folks.
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CVilleUPer
2:32 PM PDT
spin and more spin, then spin some more..............................
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CHRH
2:28 PM PDT
He shall overcomb !!!!
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CauseISaidSo
2:28 PM PDT
Read the transcript of the CNBC interview today. The end is near for Donnie.
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DesMoinesDude
2:27 PM PDT
Dear Trump supporters: If your candidate is working already on weaseling out of the debates with Hillary, what does that say about him?
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DaveB1971
2:29 PM PDT
She'll mop the floor with him and he knows it. He's nothing more than a coward.
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cmsatown
2:27 PM PDT
America's first twitter candidate whose entire campaign is based on 140 character blurbs with no fact checking is ending in total disaster..
total shocker!
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nynjdonyes
2:27 PM PDT
TRUMPZAPOPPIN
must see trumpzapoppin the movie. marx bros., olsen and johnson, ritz bros. are turning jealous in their graves. the greatest farce of all time with a huge cast of the republican party and whiteface suburbanites. the new three stooges brought to life by manacort, lewandowsi, and trump. they are the funniest and latest rendition of that group. see trump slap and humiliate the other two. hours of fun and laughs.
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lewfournier1
2:27 PM PDT
A Trump spokesman is on CNN unravelling as we speak.
His excuse for not releasing the tax returns? People will pick on them.
Trump, he says, has "the best tax attorneys." Now that I can believe.
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jimsteinberg1
2:26 PM PDT
President Obama is also the biological father of Josef Stalin, Adolf Hitler and Mao Tse Tung. A very prolific daddy.
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DaveB1971
2:26 PM PDT
First of all, Hillary is going to beat him like a rented mule. Sit back and watch.
The real thing to worry about here are the blithering idiots who support Trump. They are the truly dangerous ones.
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Interstate36
2:28 PM PDT
Trump supporters are the unhinged wingnuts that spent their entire paychecks on guns they were told Obama was coming to take.
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Mark-FS
2:26 PM PDT
The GOP is going to become increasingly known as the party of Trump. In 2020 the GOP will once again try to follow the findings of its 2012 autopsy, but it will be derailed again as primary candidates will attempt to emulate Trump's success with the base. They will be successful against the Rubio/Bush/Romney types, only to go down in flames in the general election. How many times will the grown-ups in the GOP hit themselves over the head before they decide they need a new party?
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jeenious
2:26 PM PDT
The destabilization of Iraq was a result of taking out Saddam Hussein.
Much that is wrong with the instability of the Middle East today relates to that decision.
LBJ made some decisions that had horrid results and denied he had done anything wrong..
GWB made some bad decisions in Iraq and denied he had done anything wrong.
It's not about what party the president belongs to. It's about the decisions he or she makes.
Trump is a loose cannon on the deck. God only knows what he would get us into. His problem is not lack of confidence. It's that he is so intent on winning all his arguments, the consequences are secondary to that.
Look what he's doing to his own campaign for the presidency. Good grief.
Am not saying Hussein was a nice guy.
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Mark-FS
2:27 PM PDT
Eisenhower destabilized Iran.
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cmsatown
2:25 PM PDT
Trump defines his success by his ability to be liked by complete idiots.
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bethg1841
2:24 PM PDT
In Clinton's speech today, she claimed that Trump built his career on bankrupting small businesses. Not only will we not see a genuine factcheck of those charges, we won't hear/see the media questioning those charges.
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Interstate36
2:25 PM PDT
How do you know that isn't true? He's bankrupted many small businesses in Atlantic City by not paying them what he owes them.
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CynCity
2:25 PM PDT
Google it. It's TRUE
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Sparkie123
2:27 PM PDT
The Post had a little my article about small businesses trump stiffed
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CynCity
2:24 PM PDT
75 republicans wrote letter to RNC to cut off funds to Trump!
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queasyrider
2:23 PM PDT [Edited]
"I have it on very good authority that it was Obama who brokered the deal between bluesman Robert Johnson and the Devil. Folks have told me Obama did it just to 'bust balls' on Johnson who owed him for some illegal moonshine whiskey the President had cooked up in an adjoining brothel."
--Donald J. Trump
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DaveB1971
2:28 PM PDT
Bwahahahaha!!!
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MBC-
2:23 PM PDT
News flash - all card carrying members of ISIS get a 50% discount off regular rates at any Trump hotel outside of the US and 70% off Trump hotels in the US.
The offer applies only to bookings made on the travel site www.Dopey_Donald_lies_every_day.com
I read this on the Internet and many people are talking about it so, it must be true.
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rpoor
2:23 PM PDT
He may be doomed. But any SERIOUS National Security professional understands that Obama's policies DID aid in the rise of ISIS. They went from the "JV Team" to being active in a few areas to quite a few. Obama owns it.....
Paul Bremer wiping out 200,000 Iraqi military members and leaving them to beg in the streets after the USA conquered Iraq created ISIS. It created Al Zarquarwi, then el Bagdhadi, the real ISIS founders. Fixed it for you.
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Sparkie123
2:27 PM PDT
Bull
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MBC-
2:30 PM PDT
However, the request for military funds to fight ISIS was sent to Congress in April 2015. To date, it hasn't been brought to the floor for a vote
Where are you Paul Ryan or Mitch McConnel?
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dietrich64
2:37 PM PDT
The GOP-controlled Senate won't even approve the Authorization to use force against ISIS, which Obama asked for TWO YEARS ago, so everything Obama does against ISIS has to be shoe-horned into some previous authorization that was approved.
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H_Hydro
2:23 PM PDT
Trump doesn't even need to speak at this point, I would advise, just be his magnificent self on that stage, no words. Just smile and do hand gestures.
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cmsatown
2:23 PM PDT
i can't believe how stupid and undisciplined this Trump guy is
- Sarah Palin
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stella667
2:23 PM PDT
Of course that shout out was sent from my jailbreak Iphone
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maggie111
2:22 PM PDT
Donald Trump has lost his blooming mind. The man is seriously deranged and he needs help. This isn't funny any longer. The man needs mental health treatment.
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StayinCivil
2:21 PM PDT [Edited]
Keep it up A$$hole… you and your hateful, lying rhetoric…is going to get somebody killed.
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cmsatown
2:21 PM PDT
Trump caused the GOP to self destruct as a party by splitting it along the lines of the incredibly dumb and the incredibly greedy
no joke there..just a fact.
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CynCity
2:20 PM PDT
Trump's A** is jealous of the Sh*t that comes out of his mouth.
How absurd! Accuse the commander-in-chief "the founder of ISIS?" -
Why didn't he call "British queen was the founder of the USA?"
or "George W. Bush, "the founder of ISIS?" -
Drama king (**), entertaining, that's all about him.
Give me a break! Check your dictionary "founder" -
all headlines - How absurd! He keeps droping atomic bomb - the all world reacts: Crazy! so much distracted from real issues! Can you afford to have such reckless? Damn it.
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** A male drama queen. A male member of the human species who cannot control his emotions and otherwise goes out of control in on an emotional outrage.
I wish he weren't such a drama king!
He's seriously acting like SUCH a drama king, Gosh.
A self-consumed man who likes to stir up drama. For instance: He might like to cause cat fights between two women for the pleasure derived from seeing two women fight over him.
Unlike a Drama Queen (be it a male or female one) who overreacts over anything, a Drama King enjoys drawing these traits out in those around him. Especially if it can draw more attention to himself.
Those girls are screaming at each other! And Look at the drama king. He is just eating this up.
Donald Trump's North Carolina state director allegedly pulled a gun on multiple Trump staffers but was never admonished by the Trump campaign, according to a lawsuit filed Wednesday.
More than 70 Republicans have signed an open letter to Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus urging him to stop spending any money to help Donald Trump win in November and shift those contributions to Senate and House races.
Donald J. Trump at a rally in Sunrise, Fla., on Wednesday. Credit Scott McIntyre for The New York Times. Donald J. Trump, reaffirming his contention that President Obama was effectively a “founder” of the Islamic State terrorist group, said Thursday ...
Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump accused President Obama of being the "founder" of the Islamic State militant group. Speaking at a rally August 10, Trump also said Hillary Clinton was the group's "co-founder." (Reuters)
Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump accused President Obama of being the "founder" of the Islamic State militant group. Speaking at a rally August 10, Trump also said Hillary Clinton was the group's "co-founder."Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump accused President Obama of being the "founder" of the Islamic State militant group. (Reuters)
Despite Donald Trump's repeated assertions — on Wednesday night at a rally in Florida and again on Thursday morning in an interview with CNBC — President Obama is not the founder of the Islamic State (or ISIS, in Trump's non-Post-style-compliant usage).
The militant group, which started referring to itself as the Islamic State three years ago, was formed in 2002 by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, according to the Mapping Militants project at Stanford University. Originally called Jama'at al-Tawhid wa'l Jihad, it joined al-Qaeda to form al-Qaeda in Iraq — and then, in 2013, split from al-Qaeda to become the Islamic State.
Obama no more founded the Islamic State than shopkeepers paying extortion money created the Mafia. Which, of course, would seem to have been Trump's actual point: That it was Obama's foreign policy that created the space for the Islamic State to gain power. Trump has made a similar argument before. At a rally in Mississippi in January, he claimed that "Hillary Clinton created ISIS with Obama," in her position as secretary of state. In June, he said the same thing during a "60 Minutes" interview: Hillary Clinton invented the terror group.
The extent to which Obama deserves blame for allowing the Islamic State to expand in the months after the Syrian civil war began or credit for the United States' (belated) focus on the group is a subject best left to others. But, regardless, Trump later denied that was actually his point, which we'll get to. So let's instead focus on how Trump's rhetoric overlaps so poorly with his campaign effort.
Donald Trump speaks at a campaign event at Trump Doral golf course in Miami last month. (Carlo Allegri/Reuters)
Donald Trump likes to outrage. He prides himself on it. He's got the perfect excuse, rolled out a year ago this week: He's simply not "politically correct." He's not PC, he told Fox News' Megyn Kelly in the first Republican debate last August, which is why he makes jokes about the physical appearance of women. Trump avoids the nuanced pronouncements of more experienced politicians and is clearly comfortable with being imprecise in how he makes his points. In his eyes, he's simply telling it like it is.
"All I do is tell the truth," he said during his interview with CNBC on Thursday. "I am a truth-teller."
Part of what motivates Trump to make questionable statements is that he feeds off the approval of his base. He has been repeating the line about Clinton being responsible for the rise of the Islamic State for a while. But the response from blaming Obama was different. His description of the president as the founder of the Islamic State at that rally this week gained volume and frequency as the crowd ate it up. It was almost Pavlovian, watching Trump ride the wave of applause as he said, over and over, that the U.S. president had founded the group.
Trump has made other comments that attempted to link the president to the terrorist group. In June, he implied that Obama was perhaps sympathetic to terrorists, telling an interviewer on Fox News that "we're led by a man that either is not tough, not smart or has something else in mind."
"And the something else in mind — people can't believe it," he continued. "People cannot believe that President Obama is acting the way he acts and can't even mention the words radical Islamic terrorism. There's something going on."
Polling subsequently showed that there was a segment of the Republican base that agreed with Trump's suggestion that the president might be sympathetic to terrorists. A survey last fall found that 43 percent of Republicans think Obama is Muslim, despite his regularly noting that he isn't. There's a reinforcement back and forth: Trump embraces arguments common among a subset of the conservative right and that subset applauds his candidacy.
This may also help explain Trump's bigger flub from earlier this week. On Tuesday, he said at a rally that "Second Amendment people" might be the only way to keep Clinton from appointing justices once she was president. Despite Trump's attempts to reframe the comments as somehow suggesting he was talking about electoral organizing, it was pretty clear that he was picking up on a dark joke that's not uncommon on the right: That at some point government overreach might need to be addressed with the use of the weapons the Second Amendment protects. He was saying something that he probably knew resonated with many people who like him.
Politicians always pander to their bases, but it rarely looks like this. Trump does his "truth-telling," which often means saying things that have been an undercurrent on the right for years. He gets loud appreciation for saying those things. It's a spin cycle.
Most politicians wouldn't do that — mainly because they're trying to expand their support outward. Hillary Clinton could say a lot of things that would be applauded by the Democratic far left, but that's not who she's trying to appeal to. (Well, also they probably wouldn't think she was being sincere, which is another problem.)
Clinton is focused on the general election, making a push to get Republican voters to pick her over Trump — or at least to stay home on Election Day. At the same time, she has a tightly controlled operation that's contacting voters on the ground and television spots running on the air. She has local surrogates making her case across the country.
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Aug. 9, 2016 Donald Trump speaks during a campaign rally at Crown Arena in Fayetteville, N.C.Evan Vucci/AP
Trump has ... Trump. He isn't running ads, he doesn't have folks in the field. It's himself, and recent reports suggest that there's not much that even top-level staff can do to get him to control his message. Again, the point about Obama's foreign policy, implemented by then-Secretary of State Clinton, can be made without accusing them of founding a group of murderous terrorists or saying that Obama is, as Trump put it on CNBC on Thursday, the Islamic State's "most valuable player." But Trump has proven to be immune to efforts to hew to more acceptable talking points.
One way a campaign staff would hold leverage over their candidate is by citing polling to show how the opponent is stacking up, or not. In this case, it should be easy: Trump, they can say, you are trailing badly and need to change what you're doing. But Trump continues to say publicly that he's doing well, that he gets big crowds at rallies, that he beat everyone in the primaries. Does he actually believe that he's on a viable path to the presidency? Maybe. And if so, why stop speaking off the cuff?
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What's more, Trump almost always refuses to declare that anything he has done is a mistake. His explanation for the "Second Amendment" comments doesn't make sense; it would have been simple to say he misspoke. He didn't.
On Thursday morning, Trump spoke with conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt about the Islamic State comment. From a transcript, reported by NBC's Katy Tur:
HEWITT: Last night you said that the president was the founder of ISIS. I know what you meant, you meant that he created the vacuum, he lost the peace.
TRUMP: No, I meant that he's the founder of ISIS, I do. He was the most valuable player. I gave him the most valuable player award. I give her too, by the way.
HEWITT: But he's not sympathetic to them. He hates them; he's trying to kill them.
TRUMP: He was the found, his -- the way he got out of Iraq was the founding of ISIS.
HEWITT: By using the term "founder," they're hitting you on this again. Mistake?
TRUMP: No, it's no mistake. Everyone's liking it. I think they're liking it.
Emphasis added.
Trump asked Hewitt if he liked it; Hewitt did not. But as long as everyone else does, as long as the fans at those rallies do, that's what matters most.
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