survey #3, Risk Tolerance...

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as I express the my interest of forming a partnership among few forum members three days ago, to handle some bigger projects that maybe beyond one's own reach, we had many discussion on this topic, few had post good, bad, horror experiences on such partnership.

the idea of forming a bonded partnership, has been in my mind for a little while; as I consider myself somewhat successful locally, but I know the main reason I had done well in the pass, half is luck, another half is networking, because I know the area well, from mayor to building inspector to fire marshal, I know them in person. but if I go out of area, I will have no connection, thus I must rely on a strong local person as the project manager.

trust is an expensive commodity, and these type of projects, we are working with people never met in real life, only know of each other sit behind the screen, takes lot more than just money to win someone's trust.

everyone here are smart, highly educated person, but most of everybody, like myself, we just opportunists, not truly business minded.  I had feel I am reaching my bottleneck, both in scale and finance.  to reach a further goal, forming a partnership in national level, make perfect sense to me.

at this point, there is no group project, in the near horizon, the series of survey, just to get a pulse of how everyone feel toward such partnership.

my idea way of company structure will be, an executive board with 5-7 trusted members, which they will study and recommend a project to public, and investors can vote go or no go on that project.

original post.

previous survey #1

previous survey #2

again, we are assuming this project is MFU complex base in TX, approximately cost 1mil. the question is, if you interest in participating, what is your risk tolerance...

1. 0, no interest.

2. 10k

3. 25k

4. 50k

5. 100k.

所有跟帖: 

click here if 1. 0, no interest. -jy101- 給 jy101 發送悄悄話 jy101 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 17:52:42

click here if 2. 10k -jy101- 給 jy101 發送悄悄話 jy101 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 17:53:09

click here if 3. 25k -jy101- 給 jy101 發送悄悄話 jy101 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 17:53:33

click here if 4. 50k -jy101- 給 jy101 發送悄悄話 jy101 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 17:53:53

At this point, I can risk at this level. -naive2- 給 naive2 發送悄悄話 (78 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 18:09:16

click here if 5. 100k. -jy101- 給 jy101 發送悄悄話 jy101 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 17:54:14

all comments below. -jy101- 給 jy101 發送悄悄話 jy101 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 17:54:31

please choose realistically -jy101- 給 jy101 發送悄悄話 jy101 的博客首頁 (27 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 18:03:01

先回答我的這個問題, -SunshineInCA- 給 SunshineInCA 發送悄悄話 (193 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 18:37:44

這個不難吧。有一個項目,大家給班長悄悄話,以5萬為單位,認購整數個單位。先來先得。 -sweetptt- 給 sweetptt 發送悄悄話 sweetptt 的博客首頁 (78 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 19:41:09

based on current result of the survey, subscription is more -Jeepster- 給 Jeepster 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 05/02/2012 postreply 07:27:11

than 2 times of the request, a lottery system is needed :-) -Jeepster- 給 Jeepster 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 05/02/2012 postreply 07:30:42

just a few preliminary thoughts in my mind... -jy101- 給 jy101 發送悄悄話 jy101 的博客首頁 (1918 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 20:13:37

I beleive the project needs to be totally liquidated when finish -sweetptt- 給 sweetptt 發送悄悄話 sweetptt 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 20:36:39

not necessary, the ultimate goal is for the holding llc to hold -jy101- 給 jy101 發送悄悄話 jy101 的博客首頁 (117 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 21:05:19

早期建信譽時,應該如此。 -SunshineInCA- 給 SunshineInCA 發送悄悄話 (41 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 22:23:09

alternatively, at the end of every year -Jeepster- 給 Jeepster 發送悄悄話 (144 bytes) () 05/02/2012 postreply 07:21:12

萬事開頭難。我一直有這個想法,但是自己沒有經驗,更沒有號召力。 -關鍵字- 給 關鍵字 發送悄悄話 關鍵字 的博客首頁 (199 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 19:04:17

人家家壇建3所希望小學都做到了,我們組織一個盈利性的投資基金都做不到嗎? -關鍵字- 給 關鍵字 發送悄悄話 關鍵字 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 19:07:06

這個不一樣吧。家壇那是心情愉快,這個是心生狐疑。 -sweetptt- 給 sweetptt 發送悄悄話 sweetptt 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 19:36:30

What's expected return? -WQPY- 給 WQPY 發送悄悄話 WQPY 的博客首頁 (39 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 19:25:01

in the original post, jy101 proposed to -Jeepster- 給 Jeepster 發送悄悄話 (280 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 19:46:25

大家相信班長的能力和人品, 又有閑錢, 但沒閑力的人, 應該是不戳的投資。 -xpk2011- 給 xpk2011 發送悄悄話 (101 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 19:57:45

it = asking " How much $$$$$ you have ?" at a public forum. -說事- 給 說事 發送悄悄話 說事 的博客首頁 (30 bytes) () 05/02/2012 postreply 08:27:31

咱英文有限,誰解析一下這個Risk Tolerance是 -如山- 給 如山 發送悄悄話 如山 的博客首頁 (45 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 20:03:11

both actually, the amount you are willing to invest -Jeepster- 給 Jeepster 發送悄悄話 (120 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 20:09:41

有道理。那就要跟回報的比例和 -如山- 給 如山 發送悄悄話 如山 的博客首頁 (75 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 20:15:15

that's true. SunshineInCA actually raised the same question abo -Jeepster- 給 Jeepster 發送悄悄話 (340 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 20:31:58

仔細研讀了一下斑竹的survey #2, decision factor.... -如山- 給 如山 發送悄悄話 如山 的博客首頁 (1648 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 20:12:24

不矛盾 -Cupertino枇杷- 給 Cupertino枇杷 發送悄悄話 (169 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 20:23:16

這樣說,誰能預先承諾呢? -如山- 給 如山 發送悄悄話 如山 的博客首頁 (259 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 20:36:38

You know what a guarantee is. -WQPY- 給 WQPY 發送悄悄話 WQPY 的博客首頁 (118 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 20:39:10

哈哈,是,但不完全。一個好擔保文件可以lien到 -如山- 給 如山 發送悄悄話 如山 的博客首頁 (31 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 20:46:24

I guess it is back to the project by project. -Jeepster- 給 Jeepster 發送悄悄話 (422 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 20:43:53

5年一個project周期太長。exit plan不好弄。 -HappyWed- 給 HappyWed 發送悄悄話 (165 bytes) () 05/02/2012 postreply 00:04:27

這個問題我早想過了。5年是必需的。 -sweetptt- 給 sweetptt 發送悄悄話 sweetptt 的博客首頁 (419 bytes) () 05/02/2012 postreply 00:19:16

Generally speaking, private equity is illiquid and most of time -Jeepster- 給 Jeepster 發送悄悄話 (264 bytes) () 05/02/2012 postreply 07:11:51

Agree. And it takes time to sell at a good price. -borisg- 給 borisg 發送悄悄話 borisg 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 05/02/2012 postreply 07:23:55

這樣的話,是不是需要多個project同時進行? -happywed- 給 happywed 發送悄悄話 (123 bytes) () 05/02/2012 postreply 10:32:42

班長說了,計劃1000 units,第一個project 40個 units=1米。 -sweetptt- 給 sweetptt 發送悄悄話 sweetptt 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 05/02/2012 postreply 11:37:20

或者是不是直接做flipping的project更容易handle? -HappyWed- 給 HappyWed 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 05/02/2012 postreply 10:35:21

不是。flipping隻能是SFH,each project is small。對大地主們不適合。 -sweetptt- 給 sweetptt 發送悄悄話 sweetptt 的博客首頁 (46 bytes) () 05/02/2012 postreply 11:40:18

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