使轉請進:我對投資“倆美”的全麵分析

本帖於 2025-09-29 18:30:15 時間, 由版主 曉炎 編輯
使轉,謝謝你的信任,我剛剛做了一些研究,我的分析見下。大部分都是用英文寫的,因為有些商業用語的中文詞我不是很熟。這個研究分析沿用了我處理商業案例的步驟 — (a) gather pertinent data, (b) evaluate potential returns vs. associated risks, (c) formulate conclusions, and (d) offer actionable recommendations,我把步驟列出,想著或許以後你可以參考我的這個 “邏輯係統” 去分析一些案例。另外,我對倆美的抵押貸款運作完全是現學現賣,所以如有錯處,敬請使轉原諒。
 
P.S.  我將我覺得重要的部分bolded了,這樣比較方便看到。
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1. 公司簡介及其與聯邦政府的財務關係
 
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (collectively “F&F” or GSEs) are pivotal to the U.S. housing finance system. They purchase mortgages, securitize them into mortgage-backed securities (MBS), and provide liquidity guarantees, enabling the distinctive 30-year fixed-rate mortgage. F&F back approximately 90% of U.S. mortgages, managing a portfolio exceeding $12 trillion. The 2008 subprime crisis triggered massive credit losses and the collapse of the private securitization market. Despite operational solvency (where revenues covered losses and expenses), the Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA) placed F&F into conservatorship. Below is my concise overview of the financial relationship between the U.S. government and F&F——
 
1.1- Senior Preferred Stock and Liquidation Preference
a) In 2008, under FHFA conservatorship, the U.S. Treasury committed to ensuring F&F’s solvency through Senior Preferred Stock Purchase Agreements (PSPAs). The Treasury provided capital in exchange for senior preferred stock.
b) F&F drew $187 billion from the Treasury under these PSPAs.
c) The senior preferred stock carries a 10% dividend (paid in cash or additional stock) and takes precedence over all other equity in liquidation scenarios.
d) As of 2025, the Treasury holds $194 billion in senior preferred stock and a $162 billion liquidation preference, totaling $356 billion.
1.2- Warrants for Common Equity
a) Under the PSPAs, the Treasury received warrants to acquire ~80% of F&F’s common stock at a nominal price ($0.00001 per share). If exercised, these warrants would significantly dilute existing common shareholders. 
– Negative assessment: high dilution potential for current shareholders.
 
2. 倆美的現階段財務狀況
2.1- Since 2012, F&F have generated $410 billion in cumulative net profits. In 2024, they reported $36 billion in pre-tax income, $28 billion post-tax, and credit losses below $1 billion. 
– Positive assessment: robust financial recovery
2.2- Through the pre-2019 “net worth sweep,” F&F repaid the Treasury’s $187 billion capital injection plus $110 billion in dividends. – Positive assessment: Debt-free status
2.3- Since 2019, F&F have retained earnings, accumulating $147 billion in capital by Q1 2025. However, this falls $330 billion short of the 3% Tier 1 core capital required to exit conservatorship and $389 billion below the 2020 Enterprise Regulatory Capital Framework’s “adequate capital” threshold. 
– Mixed assessment: strong progress but insufficient capital for regulatory independence. However, with this trajectory, I personally think that F&F may be able to meet capital requirements in a considerable short time frame.
 
3. 股權結構,股價及波動性
3.1- The Treasury controls ~80% of F&F’s equity via preferred stock and warrants.
3.2- The remaining 20% of common stock is held by mutual funds/retail investors (~80%) and hedge funds (~20%), including Bill Ackman’s Pershing Square (average cost ~$2/share).
3.3- F&F stocks trade on OTC market with low volume and high volatility, driven by policy sensitivity.
3.4- As of the end of September 2025, Fannie Mae closed at $12.75 (down 13% in 10 days, 52-week range $1.1–$16), and Freddie Mac at $11.7–$12.34. Recent gains stem from privatization expectations, though prices remain well below pre-crisis peaks. 
- Mixed assessment: the stock price has reached 13-16X from its bottom of $1.1 in less than a year, it demonstrated strong upward trend, yet the volatility is getting much higher as well.
 
4. 政府的大方向
4.1- Privatization push under Trump 2.0: Starting January 2025, the Trump administration revived privatization efforts stalled during 2017–2021 due to Congressional opposition. Trump supports retaining the “implicit guarantee” on F&F securities to prevent interest rate spikes while pursuing an orderly exit. His plan envisions merging F&F into a single entity, followed by an IPO with the government selling 5–15% of shares, partially funding a national sovereign wealth fund. 
– Positive assessment: limited initial share sales reduce dilution risk.
 
4.2- No direct statements from @realDonaldTrump since January 2025, but media confirms plans for a partial public listing in late 2025. 
– Negative assessment: Trump’s unpredictability poses risks, as always LOL
 
4.3- Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent: In a September 2025 Fox interview, Bessent signaled action within “months,” or may even be “a month”,  framing privatization to monetize Treasury shares without market disruption, aligning with fiscal goals. He criticized FHFA Director Bill Pulte’s outspokenness but endorsed the privatization direction. 
– Positive assessment: Bessent’s Wall Street expertise supports an orderly exit to avoid rate spikes.
 
4.4- FHFA Director Bill Pulte: Son of real estate magnate Bill Pulte, he champions privatization, valuing F&F at $500–$700 billion. He emphasizes their strong financial health and focuses on monetizing shares post-conservatorship. While praised for boldness, his credibility is questioned for exaggeration. 
– Positive assessment: alignment among Trump, Bessent, and Pulte on privatization. Also, Bessent’s outburst revealed to investors his frustration with Pulte’s perceived “unreliability”, while subtly hinting that the $500-$700 billion figure might reflect an internal evaluation, possibly a psychological “leak”. This likely explains why your son noted the stock price reaching an ATH shortly afterward. 
 
4.5- Broader Signals: August 2025 reports suggest an IPO in late 2025, potentially raising $30 billion via a 5–15% share sale. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick called it “faster than expected.” However, a June 2025 Bloomberg analysis noted the government’s preference to retain partial control for budgetary reasons over full privatization. 
– Positive assessment: No indication of complete government withdrawal and the risk of huge dilution of stock shares.
 
5. “大佬們”的影響
5.1- Bill Ackman: As the largest private shareholder, Ackman’s January 2025 presentation provides critical insights:
a) He highlighted Fannie Mae’s 1968 privatization (for Vietnam War funding, with an implicit guarantee retained) and argued the 2008 conservatorship was unnecessary, as F&F were operationally solvent. He also claimed F&F overpaid the bailout funds.
b) He also stated that Trump’s first-term efforts stalled in 2020. With $147 billion in capital and low-risk portfolios, Ackman sees 2026 as viable for Fannie Mae’s exit (Freddie Mac slightly later), ending their “zombie” status to unlock value without taxpayer risk. 
– Mixed assessment: not align with Trump’s combo IPO, yet I don’t see this as a deal breaker
c) Ackman’s valuation: Post-privatization, common shares could reach ~$30, implying a $200–$250 billion enterprise value. 
– Mixed assessment: At the current price of ~$12, despite a strong upward trend, new investors may face heightened risks.
 
5.2- Tim Howard (Fannie Mae CFO, 1990–2004): In his 2025 article “A Matter of Fact,” Howard calculated F&F’s value at $780 billion, based on profits of $185 billion (2014–2018), $244 billion (2019–2023), and $288 billion (2024), using an S&P 500 P/E ratio of 27. Relative P/E (45–85% of S&P 500) reflects regulatory sensitivity. He supports maintaining the implicit guarantee to stabilize rates. 
– Mixed assessment: I personally think that the $780 billion valuation seems too high; with 45–85% of S&P’s P/E, $400–$500 billion is more realistic. 
- Negative assessment: profit growth slowed from 31% (2014–2018 to 2019–2023) to 18% (2019–2023 to 2024), reasons unclear.
 
6. 房貸利息對私有化的影響
F&F’s privatization could influence U.S. mortgage rates, given their 90% market share and role in maintaining low-cost 30-year fixed-rate mortgages through the implicit government guarantee on their mortgage-backed securities (MBS).
6.1- Base Case: Retention of Implicit Guarantee
Trump’s plan to retain the implicit guarantee during a 5–15% IPO (per 4.1) ensures investor confidence in F&F’s MBS, keeping yields low. Mortgage rates, estimated at 6.5–7% in 2024, would likely remain stable or rise marginally (0–0.2%), reaching 6.5–7.2% by 2026. Ackman and Howard’s emphasis on the guarantee supports this outcome, as does Bessent’s focus on market stability.
6.2- Risk Scenario: Removal of Guarantee
If the guarantee is removed or market confidence erodes due to policy uncertainty (e.g., Trump’s unpredictability, per 4.2), MBS yields could rise by 50–100 basis points, pushing mortgage rates to 7.5–8.5%. This is less likely, as the government prioritizes partial control (per 4.5).
6.3- Capital Raises
To address the $330–$389 billion capital shortfall (per 2.3), F&F may raise guarantee fees or issue equity, potentially increasing mortgage rates by 0.2–0.5% (e.g., from 6.5% to 6.7–7%). Their strong financials ($410 billion in profits, per 2.1) could mitigate fee hikes.
6.4- Policy Volatility
Delays or shifts in privatization, compounded by external factors like Federal Reserve rate hikes, could raise rates by 0.3–1% (to 7–7.5%). The planned late-2025 IPO (per 4.5) aims to minimize disruption, but risks remain.
 
- Negative assessment: if the mortgage rate increases due to any of the above reasons, IPO could be on hold.
 
7. Fed近期操作對私有化的影響
7.1- Fed easing supports F&F’s capital buildup (per 2.3) by lowering borrowing costs and boosting housing demand, aiding the $330–$389 billion shortfall without aggressive fee hikes (per 6.3). However, if inflation rebounds, prompting paused cuts or hikes, it could raise MBS yields by 50–100 basis points, complicating the implicit guaranteed retention (per 4.1 and 6.2) and delaying the late-2025 IPO. 
7.2- Lower rates could enhance affordability, spurring originations and F&F volumes (currently ~70% of new mortgages), but stagflation risks (slow growth, sticky inflation) may temper this. For investors, Fed cuts signal softer economic landing, potentially lifting F&F stock prices amid privatization hype (per 3.4), though dilution risks persist (per 1.2).
7.3- The September 2025 rate cut to 4.00–4.25% supports gradual rate easing, benefiting F&F’s recapitalization, but inflation vigilance could cap upside for affordability and privatization timelines.
 
- Mixed assessment: Here’s hoping the Fed slashes rates, inflation stays low, and stagflation doesn’t crash the party before F&F’s IPO. I’m saying this with a smirk, since nobody can predict this rollercoaster LOL
 
8. 總結
8.1- Primary Risk: Full privatization could trigger massive dilution from the Treasury’s warrants (per 1.2), impacting stock prices and potentially unsettling markets, which could indirectly raise mortgage rates.
8.2- Secondary Risk: Trump’s unpredictability (per 4.2), influenced by competing political and economic interests, could derail privatization plans, affecting rate stability.
8.3- Valuation: Ackman’s $200–$250 billion estimate (per 5.1) is more credible than higher figures, though his stake may bias his optimism.
8.4- Mortgage Rate Outlook: Retaining the implicit guarantee likely keeps rates stable (6.5–7.2%), but investors and borrowers should monitor late-2025 IPO developments and Fed policy for potential shifts.
8.5- Fed Policy Context: the September 2025 rate cut supports gradual rate easing, benefiting F&F’s recapitalization, but inflation vigilance could cap upside for affordability and privatization timelines
 
9. 推薦
 
My Investment Perspective: 
9.1- at Ackman’s $2/per, even if it’s not outright theft, it’s a low-risk entry point with significant upside potential.  The valuation minimizes downside exposure, making it an attractive proposition.
 
9.2- at 使轉’s $5/per, the upside potential is substantial, with a risk-reward profile that remains compelling. Your analysis is spot-on, brilliantly done! I only wish I’d connected with you at the start of this year to capitalize on this insight LOL
 
9.3- at the current price of ~$12, short-term speculation could appeal to high-risk investors seeking quick gains. Long-term investors, however, may find value in waiting for greater clarity on privatization, dilution and interest rate impacts. 

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. -gladys- 給 gladys 發送悄悄話 gladys 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 16:52:59

你看懂了? -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 16:56:31

. -gladys- 給 gladys 發送悄悄話 gladys 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:00:42

那個時候炒點跟現在可是大不相同了。。。 -bogbog- 給 bogbog 發送悄悄話 bogbog 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:07:47

bog好,LOL,還是你聰明! -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:09:47

Good analysis... I don't think I will buy at $12.. -BrightLine- 給 BrightLine 發送悄悄話 BrightLine 的博客首頁 (50 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:08:04

班頭好,even someone like you, fully charged to speculate, is -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (320 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:12:34

那也要確定一些再投,ROI沒有,哈哈,Intc我也是在政策出來以後投的 -BrightLine- 給 BrightLine 發送悄悄話 BrightLine 的博客首頁 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:16:11

班頭厲害,這下該是我對你膜拜了LOL -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:17:27

假如IPO後, 就不值得再投了,是Income 股, 類似AIG。 -使轉- 給 使轉 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:32:58

同意!IPO以後或許差不多就到$30了, 但這個市場很難說,投機者不少lol, -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (129 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:44:11

相關sectors funds, pension funds, 加上國家主權財富基金, 會是投資熱門。 倆美比2007 -使轉- 給 使轉 發送悄悄話 (35 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:52:39

是的,確實與2008年subprime mortgage crisis 以前很不同的狀況了! -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (158 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:56:58

是不是還不如投機circle安全?哈哈 -BrightLine- 給 BrightLine 發送悄悄話 BrightLine 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:45:31

不一定, 2 分錢賭 -使轉- 給 使轉 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:54:32

lol,和班頭賭,得讓他拔個10米 -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:57:54

本以為倆美給他的10米錦上添花, 可惜他看不上。 開玩笑。 -使轉- 給 使轉 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 18:01:38

LOL,很難說,沒準以後是他的救命稻草呢,never say never ! -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 18:03:11

好吧,加入到觀察股裏,哈哈 -BrightLine- 給 BrightLine 發送悄悄話 BrightLine 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 18:17:00

那請你再看看下麵SFL9113網友的 4 Scenarios post。 -使轉- 給 使轉 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 18:43:40

曉炎好, 寫的真好,我們剛剛到香港, 現在早上8:08, -bogbog- 給 bogbog 發送悄悄話 bogbog 的博客首頁 (81 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:10:25

哈哈,打開看見的竟然是一塊指南針。你那裏是早上了吧?早! -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:14:05

對, 剛剛截圖的時候是8:08am,已經到達Hong Kong Island了。 -bogbog- 給 bogbog 發送悄悄話 bogbog 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:16:03

玩的開開心心的呀,bog 妹妹!不過得經常上來看看我們! -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:18:35

又去買房,還是追星?哈哈 -BrightLine- 給 BrightLine 發送悄悄話 BrightLine 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:16:55

等您還債了我就再買~~哈哈 -bogbog- 給 bogbog 發送悄悄話 bogbog 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:17:58

唉,什麽時候我變成了羅永浩啦,哈哈,到處都是債主 -BrightLine- 給 BrightLine 發送悄悄話 BrightLine 的博客首頁 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:19:12

你又欠了虎的?不是隻有我和bog嗎? -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:20:49

哈哈,班頭的大頭夢不知什麽時候能實現。我和bog期待那筆巨款賠償! -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:19:49

十年 -BrightLine- 給 BrightLine 發送悄悄話 BrightLine 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:20:57

好!班頭也得做10年,不能給你逃債逃掉了LOL -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:29:38

這個研究下功夫了!見水平。 -我是一隻井底蛙- 給 我是一隻井底蛙 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:20:25

謝謝蛙!找資料用的AI,但是要弄懂確實花了我一個多小時,然後寫就快了,我寫東西很快的~ -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:22:17

謝謝你曉炎! -使轉- 給 使轉 發送悄悄話 (784 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:22:35

使轉,你終於來啦,今天我可是脫了一層皮啊LOL -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:24:20

謝謝你! -使轉- 給 使轉 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:29:09

Just kidding.... 我也從中學到很多,謝謝你給我這個機會,否則我對這一塊一點都不知道! -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:31:25

你總是讓人感到溫暖,不會有壓力 -使轉- 給 使轉 發送悄悄話 (98 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:35:21

開心你喜歡我的那幾個步驟,很好用的,以後你試試看,做個案例,發在這裏,我們大家一起討論! -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:26:11

其實我寫英文比較厲害是因為本科在這裏讀的,而且小時候受我爺爺的“壓迫”,隻能跟著他讀英文小說 -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:27:47

你的祖父是大學者, 敬仰! -使轉- 給 使轉 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:58:11

他確實很厲害,脾氣也很厲害LOL -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 18:02:09

你的分析 -使轉- 給 使轉 發送悄悄話 (296 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:40:50

期待你分享你的Exit Plan....take your time, I'm very interested! -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:46:01

4 Scenarios For Fannie Mae And Its Preferreds -SFL19113- 給 SFL19113 發送悄悄話 (218208 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:23:01

這麽長!打回去,做個Executive Summary 再遞上來LOL -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:25:20

轉別人的 -SFL19113- 給 SFL19113 發送悄悄話 (91 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:41:05

知道的,我就是喜歡開玩笑LOL。當然不會惹麻煩,你這麽好性格的人,遷就我的頑劣,怎麽會! -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:48:23

Discount factor 的rate 設在8% 好像太低了,一般這樣的公司都得是at least 10%, 是否高 -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (273 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:36:28

同意 -SFL19113- 給 SFL19113 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:42:53

你看到實質,還得是專家,期待你的進一步結論 -使轉- 給 使轉 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 18:53:28

我做過很短的一段時間Econ Model, 比較三腳貓,現在都是聽經濟師給我做presentation 了, -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (162 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 19:07:13

謝謝你, 更具體數字化,讓我更清晰,雖然 還在消化第四個Scenario -使轉- 給 使轉 發送悄悄話 (292 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 18:39:43

Great analysis! -brrrr- 給 brrrr 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 18:21:22

Many thanks!~ -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 18:24:17

分析很全麵,不過我一般不碰這種類型公司,不夠’Fancy’ -lionhill- 給 lionhill 發送悄悄話 lionhill 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 18:56:56

LOL,氣死我了,還不夠fancy,總比你我的盤子fancy吧! -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 19:01:15

哈哈,標的不fancy不意味著分析不好! -lionhill- 給 lionhill 發送悄悄話 lionhill 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 19:14:38

就是,盤子可以不fancy,吃的內容是自己享受的,一定得fancy -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 19:34:25

給你看看我剛剛做的三文魚!想知道步驟嗎,吃起來很fancy嗒lol -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (82 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 19:02:32

很不錯,把步驟發上來! -lionhill- 給 lionhill 發送悄悄話 lionhill 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 19:13:51

1,將三文魚去皮,洗幹淨,切成不是很小的塊狀,放進一個玻璃的baking container -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (1039 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 19:29:37

多謝!下次做試試! -lionhill- 給 lionhill 發送悄悄話 lionhill 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:04:05

做了後給張照片看看,用個fancy點的盤子 -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:27:12

不需要煎嗎? -cnrhm2017- 給 cnrhm2017 發送悄悄話 cnrhm2017 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:12:35

不需要!煎了就會dry了。你也試試,做起來很方便! -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (209 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:25:46

我一般, -wiser56- 給 wiser56 發送悄悄話 wiser56 的博客首頁 (247 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:24:08

你這個漂亮的!向你討烹飪詳細步驟,可以賜教我這在上升期的魚嗎? -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (173 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:29:25

這是cod嗎? -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:30:38

對的 -wiser56- 給 wiser56 發送悄悄話 wiser56 的博客首頁 (31 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:40:51

我冰箱裏就有一盒現成的cod,這個周末也自己做一道,再加一杯pina colada, 過過神仙的日子 -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:44:10

Enjoy! -wiser56- 給 wiser56 發送悄悄話 wiser56 的博客首頁 (29 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:45:53

你那個已很好了! -wiser56- 給 wiser56 發送悄悄話 wiser56 的博客首頁 (333 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:39:53

謝謝!一定試著做做看!我在做吃上是很精益求精的LOL -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:42:14

喜歡吃的。。 -wiser56- 給 wiser56 發送悄悄話 wiser56 的博客首頁 (84 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:43:54

pina colada,my favorite!你會做嗎? -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:45:10

這個是rum base的, -wiser56- 給 wiser56 發送悄悄話 wiser56 的博客首頁 (50 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:55:46

下次挑戰一下自己?好開心認識一個像我一樣的吃貨朋友LOL 晚安,為了有錢吃好的,我明天還得繼續奮鬥 -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:59:30

還有使轉上次給了我一個買三文魚的link,看上去非常棒,和你分享 -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (164 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 19:31:56

這個link的三文魚非常鮮,我隻用鹽 Avacado oil Dash sweet basil (自己種的), 原滋原味 -使轉- 給 使轉 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 19:37:28

嫉妒LOL 我以後退休了也要自己種菜,可是我沒有綠拇指,即使別人送的盆栽也養不好 -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 19:44:13

好的,都試試 -lionhill- 給 lionhill 發送悄悄話 lionhill 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:06:08

三文魚我一般是放水先浸泡,然後瀝幹放鹽,然後把自己家裏種的rosemary切成小片撒上,烤箱350烤30分鍾。味道很好 -aloevera- 給 aloevera 發送悄悄話 (78 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 21:50:59

謝謝Vera! 我把照片補上了哈,當作菜譜的交換lol -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/30/2025 postreply 04:34:40

朋友當時引薦FNMA 我也是同樣感覺,但 -使轉- 給 使轉 發送悄悄話 (235 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 19:43:15

我重點關注了你的三文魚和買三文魚的鏈接 -HappyWed- 給 HappyWed 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:32:05

你是存心來氣我的嗎,我的文章不是重點嗎? -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (179 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:33:34

總結: -jasonshane- 給 jasonshane 發送悄悄話 jasonshane 的博客首頁 (10139 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 21:00:10

哈哈哈,你好棒!我正準備去睡覺了,被你這總結驚豔到了lol -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (364 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 21:04:24

既然ackman讚成,這$12/share 看起來OK,但是這股票我以前都看過,漲了很長一段時間了 -cnrhm2017- 給 cnrhm2017 發送悄悄話 cnrhm2017 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 21:06:33

早!確實,從年初的$1到9個月後的$12,Ackman的均價是$2…… -曉炎- 給 曉炎 發送悄悄話 曉炎 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/30/2025 postreply 04:36:37

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