就中國工程師和印度工程師矛盾等問題,羅康納誠摯邀請文學城網友,於8月19日下周二晚直接麵對麵交流

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今年國會眾議院加州17區選舉由在華人中頗有知名度的本田議員對陣民主黨矽穀新星,印度裔的羅康納 (Ro Khanna,參見:http://www.rokhanna.com/media_chinese) 先生。羅康納得到了非常多的矽穀高科技公司總裁的支持,也曾對美國當今的高科技,製造業,創新,和產生有競爭力的就業機會等諸多重大問題著書立說,詳細論証 (參見:http://www.amazon.com/dp/0071802002)。

華裔工程師和印裔工程師是矽穀的兩大支柱,同時也是許多相關職場話題甚至矛盾的來源。這些矛盾在新一代社交媒體上相對突出,廣為人知,但矽穀高科技華裔和印裔之間鮮有正式,真誠,和高效的對話渠道。

交流和對話是解決矛盾或澄清誤解的唯一至理。鑒於此,羅康納決定和廣大矽穀華裔,特別是高科技一族勇敢對話。不久前我有幸主持並見証了這樣一次反響良好的在線對話(參見:http://www.svca.me/?q=node/104)。

羅康納決定進一步邀請更多華裔高科技精英,包括 MITBBS和文學城網友等等,於8月19日周二晚在Santa Clara市直接麵對麵交流,誠懇直麵回答任何挑戰性問題。時間和地點如下:

8月19日下周二晚 6:30 pm – 8:00 pm
3200 Coronado Drive, Santa Clara, CA 95054

由於時間比較有限,歡迎有興趣前往的朋友事先和我聯係拿號 (電話:650.999.0172 電郵:kai.zhu@pandaipllc.com),前十名保証有時間提問,但不要求事先提交問題。 謝謝大家!


附注本人是一名SVCA Committee 成員。應SVCA會長Alex Chen特別要求,本人鄭重澄清,本人促進羅康納先生加強和矽穀華裔高科技精英交流和對話的想法和行為,完全是個人行為,和SVCA沒有任何關係。一周前,本人還完全不認識羅康納先生,連他的郵件地址都沒有。但本人許多朋友知道,在他們幫助我建立 www.no2sca5.org 的第一天起,本人就非常希望團結矽穀印度裔朋友,聯合反對SCA-5。 下麵的這段文字,是本人在主持了和羅康納先生在線對話後,以及SVCA明確表示今年不會背書任何聯邦選舉候選人(包括羅康納先生) 後,本人發給羅康納先生的一封郵件中的主要一段:

“Personally, I share many of your views regarding the US-China relationship and the China-India rivalry. One of my PhD committee members is an Indian professor, Prof. B.B. Bhattacharyya (http://www.stat.ncsu.edu/people/bhattacharyya). As an old-fashioned gentleman with a British flavor, he is the nicest professor that I have ever worked with. My first formal job after the graduate school was a start-up in SV. We had a whole Indian engineering team transferred directly from Bangalore back in 1999. None of them had attended any U.S. graduate school then, but many of them were very skilled and dedicating engineers. Further, it was easy to work with most of them.

Perhaps things have changed a little bit, or I have never been fully informed, but currently many Chinese engineers in the Valley, especially those younger ones, hold a -- quite frankly -- hostile view toward their Indian colleagues. Their complaints center on a few issues:

(a) In recent years a lot of under-qualified software engineers came from India and flooded SV, often with fake resumes but some connections with a complicated HR network that helps them to tell fancy career stories. One of my Chinese friends told me that even himself was coached by an Indian headhunter on how to fabricate a 6-page resume full of non-existing credentials; the headhunter even told my friend that all references to those credentials would be available via a network.

(b) Because of (a), Chinese engineers are at a huge disadvantage as to H1-B quotas and Green Card progress.

(c) Because Indian engineers generally have better English skills than Chinese engineers, some Indian engineers often are able to navigate corporate politics at work better, unduly take credits away from their Chinese colleagues who actually did the dirty and hard work, and unfairly attain more promotions. In short, they tend to "talk more, do less" - many Chinese engineers ridicule those Indian colleagues as "far better at making PowerPoint than writing code."

I don't really know those issues well. But as I am not sure whether you are aware of such animosity, I just want to bring them to your attention.”

這封郵件當日即在SVCA Committee內部公開。

特此澄清,關於羅康納先生,本人立場和SVCA立場完全無關。

所有跟帖: 

這種對話還無意義。兩個不同族裔不同文化的人,不會有任何共性。免了 -happycow222- 給 happycow222 發送悄悄話 (1 bytes) () 08/13/2014 postreply 09:06:05

對,這類做法很不明智。故意把一個普遍的問題,以老中和老印的對立為題,挑動事端。 -多哥- 給 多哥 發送悄悄話 多哥 的博客首頁 (15 bytes) () 08/13/2014 postreply 15:51:21

請問你 -KaiZhu- 給 KaiZhu 發送悄悄話 (608 bytes) () 08/13/2014 postreply 17:22:25

你的“N 個邏輯問題”的結論,是把我的說法中牽涉到的種概念和屬概念的關係搞混了。 -多哥- 給 多哥 發送悄悄話 多哥 的博客首頁 (36 bytes) () 08/13/2014 postreply 17:30:24

你具體解釋一下,正麵回答我的問題。你講的擺在那裏。不要什麽 “種概念和屬概念” 和“你這樣做,是沒有意義的” 這種沒人懂的東東。 -KaiZhu- 給 KaiZhu 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 08/13/2014 postreply 18:28:23

你雖然聲明代表你個人,你明顯有傾向性,但是你這樣做的結果,隻能是分裂華人 -broadken- 給 broadken 發送悄悄話 (352 bytes) () 08/13/2014 postreply 09:43:24

不交流,情況隻會變得更糟。 請問你 -KaiZhu- 給 KaiZhu 發送悄悄話 (605 bytes) () 08/13/2014 postreply 10:38:02

你的initiative很好 -78qwert- 給 78qwert 發送悄悄話 (93 bytes) () 08/13/2014 postreply 12:57:20

還是有一定關係的,因為 -KaiZhu- 給 KaiZhu 發送悄悄話 (534 bytes) () 08/13/2014 postreply 22:40:21

溝通肯定是需要的。不知道這種有組織有計劃的政治秀有多大效果。就算所有到會的人誠心誠意地達到了共識,然後呢?第二天回到辦公室, -廢話多多- 給 廢話多多 發送悄悄話 廢話多多 的博客首頁 (886 bytes) () 08/13/2014 postreply 13:25:31

你的觀點是有一定道理的 -KaiZhu- 給 KaiZhu 發送悄悄話 (386 bytes) () 08/13/2014 postreply 17:29:38

跑題了。 -廢話多多- 給 廢話多多 發送悄悄話 廢話多多 的博客首頁 (582 bytes) () 08/14/2014 postreply 07:15:22

這種活動有很大的負麵作用,挑動群眾鬥群眾。本來是是很正常的事情, -多哥- 給 多哥 發送悄悄話 多哥 的博客首頁 (132 bytes) () 08/13/2014 postreply 15:48:12

沒有“挑動” 吧?這裏和MITBBS -KaiZhu- 給 KaiZhu 發送悄悄話 (342 bytes) () 08/13/2014 postreply 17:14:09

怎麽有一種我們關起門來發發牢騷,結果被人以幫助我們解決問題的名義給公開來達到啥政治目的的感覺。 -Tove- 給 Tove 發送悄悄話 Tove 的博客首頁 (147 bytes) () 08/13/2014 postreply 19:47:58

其實你說得很對啊 -KaiZhu- 給 KaiZhu 發送悄悄話 (2216 bytes) () 08/13/2014 postreply 20:49:23

我不覺得中印矛盾“新一代社交媒體上相對突出,廣為人知" -Tove- 給 Tove 發送悄悄話 Tove 的博客首頁 (995 bytes) () 08/13/2014 postreply 21:41:28

剛才在討論問題A,怎麽一下又討論問題B了。討論 -KaiZhu- 給 KaiZhu 發送悄悄話 (139 bytes) () 08/13/2014 postreply 22:24:29

我從來都是說的這個問題。是你做政治做慣了,不管別人說什麽,你都是那套套話就出來了。 -Tove- 給 Tove 發送悄悄話 Tove 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 08/13/2014 postreply 22:28:58

你這就不對了吧 -KaiZhu- 給 KaiZhu 發送悄悄話 (117 bytes) () 08/13/2014 postreply 22:34:28

能做政治是誇你呢,好不好。我還是對你那上麵說的那段很佩服。現在看, 你太敏感也衝動,確實不像做政治的,哈哈 -Tove- 給 Tove 發送悄悄話 Tove 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 08/13/2014 postreply 22:42:09

我本來就不是做政治的嘛。不要把什麽都往壞處假設,不然我 -KaiZhu- 給 KaiZhu 發送悄悄話 (216 bytes) () 08/13/2014 postreply 22:44:58

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