June 12 2025 Jean Chretien 在G7峰會
"別胡鬧了”:加拿大前總理讓·克雷蒂安在G7峰會上敦促特朗普保持強硬但也要對話
https://calgaryherald.com/news/jean-chretien-donald-trump-g7-kananaskis
By Bill Kaufmann Jun 12, 2025 ?BKaufmann@postmedia.com
“他總是恃強淩弱,所以遇到恃強淩弱的人時,除非你抓住他的脖子,否則別失去冷靜。”
讓·克雷蒂安 G7 卡爾加裏大學 加拿大前總理讓·克雷蒂安參加了一場關於2025年6月12日即將在卡納納斯基斯舉行的G7峰會前景的會議。此次會議由卡爾加裏大學公共政策學院主辦。
加拿大前總理讓·克雷蒂安周四在卡爾加裏表示,世界各國領導人需要在卡納納斯基斯七國集團峰會上,勇敢麵對可能好戰的美國總統唐納德·特朗普。
然而,曾於2002年在卡納納斯基斯主持八國集團領導人峰會的克雷蒂安表示,盡管美國領導人對加拿大征收關稅、威脅其主權,並在洛杉磯對美國動用軍隊,但特朗普應該被允許入境。
“我們是文明國家,我們可以與任何人對話——抵製領導人無濟於事,對話才能解決問題。”克雷蒂安在卡爾加裏大學舉行的七國集團峰會會議上發言後表示。
但與此同時,克雷蒂安表示,不能讓特朗普可能反複無常的行為影響或動搖為期三天、在卡爾加裏以西一小時車程、戒備森嚴的卡納納斯基斯村舉行的會議的基調。
“如果他決定上新聞,就會說些瘋狂的話,所以讓他去吧……你改變不了這家夥,他一輩子都是這樣,”他說。
“他喜歡恃強淩弱,所以遇到恃強淩弱的人時,除非你抓住他的脖子,否則別失去冷靜。”
克雷蒂安表示,他給特朗普的建議是,不要再談論試圖通過經濟壓力來吞並加拿大。
“老子說老子,別再胡說八道了,”他說。
他指出,特朗普在2018年魁北克省夏洛瓦舉行的七國集團峰會上怒氣衝衝地離開,要求他的官員不要簽署最後公報,並侮辱了時任總理賈斯汀·特魯多。
克雷蒂安稱讚卡尼處理與美國關係的方式。
但克雷蒂安表示,他相信2025年世博會將圓滿結束,東道主加拿大將一如既往地扮演務實的調解人角色,解決問題。
這位前自由黨總理表示:“(馬克·卡尼總理)處理得很好,我們這次很幸運(有他)。”
“人們會看到議程相當不錯,我們必須忘掉(特朗普)的作秀,我們必須停止那些關於(美國)脫離歐盟並(自己)生產一切的胡言亂語。”
許多加拿大人認為,即使從外交角度來看不現實,被定罪的重罪犯特朗普也不應該被允許入境。
前安大略省新民主黨議員查理·安格斯一直直言不諱地批評特朗普,本周早些時候他表示,他同情特朗普的立場,理由包括美國總統與俄羅斯總統關係密切等。
“卡尼總理正在歡迎弗拉基米爾·普京的傀儡,他將在(七國集團)的關鍵談判中占據最佳席位,”安格斯說道。
“我們知道唐納德·特朗普會處處破壞我們。”
此次年度峰會匯集了加拿大、美國、英國、法國、意大利、德國、日本以及歐盟的領導人。
澳大利亞、墨西哥、印度、南非、巴西和烏克蘭的領導人也受邀出席。烏克蘭與俄羅斯的戰爭是此次峰會的核心議題之一,代表們正在努力解決向陷入困境的保衛者提供援助以及對莫斯科實施進一步製裁的問題。
據彭博社報道,印尼總統普拉博沃·蘇比安托也受邀出席,但他拒絕出席,選擇在本周晚些時候與俄羅斯總統普京會麵。
此次年度峰會將於6月15日至17日舉行,其他議題包括經濟穩定、和平與安全、氣候變化以及科技發展。
克雷蒂安回憶起2002年他在卡納納斯基斯主辦的八國集團峰會,並指出峰會最初計劃在渥太華舉行。他表示,選擇卡納納斯基斯是因為那裏更容易安保,尤其是在9/11恐怖襲擊發生幾個月後。
“我們不得不殺死一隻熊,有人在做愛,但會議非常和平,成本不高,而且相當成功,”他說。
“我很高興他們這次選擇了同樣的地點,那裏是個好地方。”
讓·克雷蒂安 約翰·曼利 G7 加拿大前總理讓·克雷蒂安(左)和前副總理約翰·曼利在一場關於即將舉行的 G7 卡納納斯基斯峰會前景的會議上交談。會議於 2025 年 6 月 12 日在卡爾加裏大學舉行。Gavin Young/Postmedia
前總理回顧早年與俄羅斯總統的對話
克雷蒂安還回憶起自己擔任總理後與俄羅斯總統普京的談話,當時他們討論了莫斯科經常聽到的關於其後來為何發動核試驗的立場。
2022年在烏克蘭爆發全麵戰爭。
他說,普京明確表示了他對北約涉足前蘇聯部分地區的擔憂。
“(普京說)這太過分了,讓人感到不安……我討論了一個半小時,”克雷蒂安說。
“我們討論了俄羅斯成為歐洲一部分的問題,但我們搞砸了——這個想法本來可以有所進展。”
2014年,莫斯科占領了烏克蘭的克裏米亞,並在該國東部的武裝衝突中支持分裂分子,俄羅斯因此被踢出了八國集團。
盡管克雷蒂安稱烏克蘭戰爭是一場“毫無結果”的衝突,但他堅持認為必須與莫斯科進行對話。
“談判總是好的,你不能對任何問題都擺出一副高高在上的樣子。我們不再和(俄羅斯人)對話了,”這位前總理說。
烏克蘭與俄羅斯近期就停火達成的談判除了促成戰俘交換外,幾乎沒有取得任何進展。
前總理喬·克拉克也出席了此次會議,他表示,卡尼已經證明自己比大多數人更有能力與特朗普打交道,但這在聚光燈下尤其明顯。
克拉克在談到上個月兩人在橢圓形辦公室的會麵時表示:“我還沒見過哪位領導人能比(卡尼)在會晤期間更成功地與特朗普總統溝通。”
克拉克說:“當特朗普遠離鏡頭時,我們就能與他取得進展。”
關於特朗普出席七國集團峰會,約翰·霍普金斯大學的一位學者表示,總統的幹擾也有一線希望,加拿大似乎渴望應對這一問題,這是積極的一麵。
“我必須讚揚唐納德·特朗普——他引起了我們的注意,但他需要做的是將這種關注轉化為領導力。”該大學加拿大研究中心主任克裏斯托弗·桑茲博士說。
“當人們扔東西,還說要占領我們的房子時,我從卡尼那裏聽到了談判的意願。除非我們努力抓住這些機會,否則什麽也做不了。”
'Stop that nonsense': Former PM Jean Chretien urges firmness but dialogue with Donald Trump at G7
https://calgaryherald.com/news/jean-chretien-donald-trump-g7-kananaskis
World leaders need to stand up to a potentially belligerent U.S President Donald Trump at the Kananaskis G7, former Canadian prime minister Jean Chretien said in Calgary on Thursday.
But Chretien, who hosted the G8 leaders’ summit at Kananaskis in 2002, said despite the U.S. leader’s tariffs and sovereignty threats against Canada and his use of troops against Americans in Los Angeles, Trump should be allowed into the country.
“We’re civilized, we’re able to talk to anybody — boycotting leaders nowhere, dialogue solves problem,” Chretien said after speaking at a conference on the G7 held at the University of Calgary.
But at the same time, Chretien said
Trump’s possibly volatile behaviour can’t be allowed to set or shake the tone of the three-day meeting in a massively secured Kananaskis Village an hour west of Calgary.
“If he’s decided to be in the news, he’ll say something crazy, so let him . . . you don’t change the guy, he’s been like that all his life,” he said.
“He tends to be a bully, so don’t lose your cool when you have a bully unless you grab him by the neck.”
Chretien said the advice he’d provide Trump is to give up talk of trying to acquire Canada through economic pressure.
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“From an old man to an old man, stop that nonsense,” he said.
Chretien praises Carney’s handling of relationship with U.S.
But Chretien said he’s confident the 2025 edition will end successfully with the host Canada playing its usual role as practical facilitator to resolve problems.
“(Prime Minister Mark Carney) is handling it well, we’re very lucky at this time (to have him),” said the former Liberal PM.
“People will see the agenda is quite good, we have to forget about the (Trump) show, we have to stop that nonsense about the (U.S.) breaking away and producing everything (themselves).”
Many Canadians believe convicted felon Trump shouldn’t be allowed into the country, even if that’s diplomatically unrealistic.
Former Ontario NDP MP Charlie Angus, who’s been an outspoken critic of Trump, said earlier this week he sympathizes with that stance, citing the U.S. president’s closeness with Russia’s president, among other reasons.
“Prime Minister Carney is welcoming in Vladimir Putin’s sock puppet who’ll have the best seat in the key negotiations in (the G7),” said Angus.
“We know Donald Trump is there to undermine us at every step of the way.”
The annual summit brings together the leaders of Canada, the U.S., U.K., France, Italy, Germany and Japan as well as the European Union.
Also invited to attend are the leaders of Australia, Mexico, India, South Africa, Brazil and Ukraine, the latter country’s war with Russia one of the summit’s central issues with delegates grappling with extending aid to the embattled defenders and further sanctions on Moscow.
Other issues at the annual confab that runs from June 15-17 will be economic stability, peace and security, climate change and technology.
Chretien reminisced about the
2002 G8 he hosted at Kananaskis, noting it was initially planned to take place in Ottawa. He said he opted for Kananaskis because it was easier to secure, particularly months after the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
“We had to kill a bear and someone was mooning but it was very peaceful, not too costly and quite a success,” he said.
“I’m happy they selected the same site for this one, it’s a good place to be.”
Former prime minister of Canada Jean Chretien, left, and former deputy prime minister John Manley chat during a conference on prospects for the upcoming G7 Kananaskis summit. The conference took place at the University of Calgary on June 12, 2025. Gavin Young/Postmedia
Former PM reflects on earlier conversations with Russian president
Chretien also recalled speaking with Russia’s Putin after he was PM, when they discussed Moscow often-heard stance on why it later launched its full-scale war in Ukraine in 2022.
He said Putin made it clear his concern about NATO’s perceived encroachment on parts of the former Soviet Union.
“(Putin said) that was too close for comfort . . . I discussed that for one-and-a-half hours,” said Chretien.
“We discussed Russia being part of Europe but we dropped the ball — it was an idea that could have gone somewhere.”
Russia was kicked out of the G8 in 2014 after Moscow grabbed Ukraine’s Crimea and backed separatists in an armed conflict in the eastern part of that country.
While Chretien called the war in Ukraine a conflict that’s “leading nowhere,” he insisted there must be a dialogue with Moscow.
“It’s always good to talk, you can’t go on your high horse with any problem. We don’t talk to (the Russians) anymore,” said the former PM.
Recent negotiations between Ukraine and Russia on reaching a ceasefire have made little progress, other than leading to PoW swaps.
Carney’s already shown he’s more capable than far most in dealing with Trump but that’s most true out of the spotlight, said former Prime Minister Joe Clark who also at the conference.
“I haven’t seen any other leader who’s approached President Trump more successfully than (Carney) did during their meeting,” said Clark of the oval office meeting between the two last month.
“One would make progress progress with Trump when he’s away from the cameras,” said Clark.
On the presence of Trump at the G7, a Johns Hopkins University academic said there’s a silver lining to the president’s disruptions and that it’s positive that Canada seems eager to confront that.
“I have to give Donald Trump credit — he’s gotten our attention but what he has to do is transfer that into leadership,” said Dr. Christopher Sands, director of the university’s Center for Canadian Studies.
“When people are throwing things and talking about taking over our house, I’m hearing from Carney a willingness to talk. Nothing will get done unless we work on these opportunities.”