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衛報專訪:那群人在台灣 心向祖國統一

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《衛報》專訪:那群人在台灣 心向「祖國」的不同聲音

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英國《衛報》深入了解台灣統一派意見。(photo:AppleDaily)

英國《衛報》深入了解台灣統一派意見。(photo:AppleDaily)

 

台灣是言論自由的國家,民眾可以有不同想法,暢所欲言,當然也可以擁有和大部分民意不同的看法。英國《衛報》訪問台灣一群統一派,探究他們想要和中國統一背後的原因,一起來聽聽他們的想法。

本次受訪的5位民眾年約70多歲,均為男性,他們的父親都是中國軍人,在台灣扶養他們長大。他們都自稱為統一派,也屬於那12%希望和中國統一的少數族群。報導指出,統一派的族群年紀較大,多半是國民黨支持者,清一色都是男性。也有少部分年輕的支持者,他們堅信台灣最終會戰敗,與其損失慘重,不如求合。

陳老先生受訪表示,與中國統一,成為中國一省後,人民的日子會過得更好。台灣可以接收到中國經濟成長,與中國政權發展的紅利,「大部分人都想要好生活,和平與快樂。那些想要獨立的,都是在瞎扯,他們自欺欺人。」

陳老先生說台灣政經穩定在1980年代民主化就消失了,步上其他民主國家老路,像是美國貧富兩極化,強森決議脫歐,都是西方民主失靈的案例。

5位受訪支持者表示,他們歡迎習近平來接收台灣,生活肯定會更好,所以台灣政權應該要接受統一。有人說,他歡迎統一,擔心中國攻打台灣。希望統一不要發生在習近平當政時。有人則稱,希望統一,但不要是共產黨主政的環境下。第5人說,就是特別討厭民進黨。

報導認為,對這5個人來說,用傾向統一來歸納他們的意向可能不那麽精準,他們其實是反對獨立派。

根據中共發表白皮書,習近平將在「任內」把台灣正式納入國土,不會留給下一代處理。對這5人來說,中國不可能讓台灣問題擺在那邊維持現狀,更不可能放棄統一台灣,「不可能啦,這是中國的任務,他們幹嘛要改變」。(國際中心/綜合外電報導)

The ObserverTaiwan

Beachgoers this month in Xiamen, China, just across the waters from Taiwan's Kinmen islands, a potential flashpoint in the conflict with Beijing

 

Beachgoers this month in Xiamen, China, just across the waters from Taiwan's Kinmen islands, a potential flashpoint in the conflict with Beijing. Photograph: Héctor Retamal/AFP/Getty Images

 

Surveys reveal that up to 12% of the country supports unification with China, including five of its citizens in a Taipei restaurant

 

All are retired men in their 70s – the sons of Chinese nationalist soldiers – and were born or grew up in Taiwan during its brutal decades of martial law.

They are the demographic considered most likely to support the “unification” of Taiwan with China. And they do – mostly. But the issue is complicated: Taiwan functions domestically as an entirely independent country, with its own democratically elected government, currency, military and vibrant civil society.

However, the Chinese Communist party (CCP) believes it is a province of China that must be “reunified” with the mainland – peacefully by preference, but by force if necessary.

Despite threats and intimidation by Beijing and its military, Taiwan’s resistance to unification only grows stronger. More and more people are also identifying themselves as exclusively Taiwanese, not exclusively Chinese or both. More are showing support for independence.

 

Retired businessman Harry Chen believes Taiwan is part of China and would be better off if it agreed to be a Chinese province

Retired businessman Harry Chen believes Taiwan is part of China and would be better off if it agreed to be a Chinese province. Photograph: Helen Davidson/The Observer

But this month a poll in Taiwan found almost 12% of respondents still support unification. Other surveys have shown that figure to be about 5%-10%. The number has declined over the years but a stubborn segment saying yes to “one China” suggests a sizeable group of people in Taiwan are not being pushed towards independence like so many of their compatriots. Some analysts also say this group could be enough to vote hardline pro-China candidates – some of whom also have connections to organised crime - into local government.

Given the military drills and the threats to Taiwan, and the deteriorating freedoms and rights inside China, it is a fair question to ask why anyone in Taiwan would want to go back to life under authoritarian rule, decades after they left it behind.

“People’s understanding of unification has changed quite a lot over the decades,” said Jeremy Huai-Che Huang, a Taipei-based analyst.

Nowadays, people in Taiwan tend to view the prospect of unification through the prism of Hong Kong. There is little trust for President Xi Jinping’s promises – reiterated in a recent white paper – that they would retain anything close to the freedom and autonomy they have now.

Taiwanese politics is famously combative and starkly divided, operating in an almost equally partisan local media environment. The ruling Democratic Progressive party is accused by China of being secessionist and by critics of exacerbating tensions by courting global support.

The nationalist Kuomintang (KMT), the main opposition party, has an ageing base and is struggling to regain popularity while staying true to its roots. It has not been helped by a faction that Dafydd Fell, director of the Centre of Taiwan Studies at Soas University of London, said is “taking quite a strong pro-unification line”.

They are also being outflanked by fringe pro-unification parties, including some linked to the Bamboo Union alleged crime syndicate.

These fringe groups, often seen protesting or harassing pro-Taiwan delegates and events, have “disproportionate” airtime considering their almost non-existent vote, but they know how to mobilise, and some are mysteriously well-funded, says Fell.

Pro-unification people are generally thought to be concentrated among older generations, are probably KMT voters and are typically men. Huang said there are still some young proponents, including a Chinese nationalist minority, but they are often just “defeatist” and believe Taiwan would lose a conflict and should cut its losses now.

Fell outlines other influences on unification supporters, including rising nationalism and CCP propaganda and disinformation. Some supporters are driven by cynicism about divisive Taiwanese party politics and are nostalgic for the strong leadership of the CCP or martial law.There are those who have benefited economically from closer ties with China, and who “are just trying to stay out of politics … and find that kind of PRC nationalism quite annoying”, while some have spent decades in China, the US and Taiwan, and have decided they support and trust the CCP.

Chen is at the more hardline end. He said life for everyone would be better if Taiwan just accepted it was a Chinese province and its democratic government peacefully accepted the benefits of China’s economic strength and global power. “What normal people want in life is good living, peace and happiness,” he said. “People who want independence, that’s bullshit – they’re lying to themselves.”

He spoke of a stability in Taiwan that has disappeared since the 1980s democratisation. He cited the decline of the US, the growing wealth divide and Boris Johnson generally as evidence that western democracy does not work.

Many other factors and variations are also at the Taipei restaurant table. All five men identify as Chinese and believe Taiwan is part of China, citing history, ethnicity, culture and language. Two men, including Chen, are ardent supporters of Xi and the CCP. They welcome a takeover and believe life will be better for all, so Taiwan’s government should just accept it. Another said he would support unification under the CCP but not while Xi is leader, and is very worried about a Chinese invasion. Another wants unification but not under the CCP, while the fifth doesn’t think much of any option but hates the DPP most of all.

Perhaps for this group of friends, the term “pro-unification” is not as accurate as “anti-independence”.

Xi has pledged to annex Taiwan, and the white paper said this could not be left to future generations. Taiwan’s resistance is growing, as is international support for its plight and what annexation might mean for the region. The easiest option is to maintain the status quo, but for everyone at the Taipei dinner table, the idea that Beijing could ever just decide to back off and let Taiwan be is unfathomable. “Impossible,” Chen said. “This is the mission of the Chinese. Why would they change?”
 

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