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美網民評中俄否決製裁敘利亞
論壇出處：西陸中國軍事 作者：耕叟 時間：2011-10-07 01:16:57
美國CNN網站報道：周二（4日），中國和俄羅斯阻止了其他大國的努力，行使了否決權，使聯合國安理會無法通過呼籲立即停止敘利亞總統巴沙爾·阿薩德對反對者鎮壓的決議……美國網民對此發表了評論（原文網址http://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/04/world/meast/syria-unrest/index.html?hpt=hp_t1）
【網民評論】
NewsAnalyzer
1. So, the USA is mad at Russia for using a veto to protect Syria.
2. In a few weeks, the UN will be presented with a resolution to admit The State of Palestine as a full UN member.
3. Then, Russia will be mad at the USA for using a veto to protect Israel.
4. Is this how the UN permanent members are supposed to behave?
5. Abolish this stupid UN veto system. Make it more representative and democratic: 1 nation = 1 vote.
6. Make the 193 members vote on resolutions. Pass a resolution if it wins 2/3 of the vote.
1.美國對俄羅斯行使否決權保護敘利亞“非常憤怒”。
2.過幾周，聯合國將提出決議承認巴勒斯坦國作為聯合國正式成員國。
3.然後，俄羅斯對美國行使否決權保護以色列“非常憤怒”。
4.這是就是聯合國常任理事國本應該做的？
5.應該廢除愚蠢的聯合國否決權體製。聯合國應更富有代表性和民主性：一個成員國，一張選票。
6.193個聯合國成員國共同表決。三分之二國家投讚成票，決議通過。
AC1968
What a surprise, China and Russia support massacreing and opressing a nations populace to keep them in line under a ruthless government.
深感意外，中俄會支持一個殘酷的政府屠殺鎮壓民眾。
AnandMangala
I can understand why China is against UN intervention since it has a similar situation in China, but why Russia is supporting the atrocities of Bashar al-Assad I fail to understand ?
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因為中國有跟敘利亞相似的國情，所以我能理解中國反對聯合國“幹預內政”，但我始終不明白俄羅斯支持暴君巴沙爾·阿薩德的原因，我哪兒沒理解透？
lotrman45
of course Russia and China won't pass it. They don't want to lose their money selling weapons to Syria. Russia and China would not care if 2 million people were dead in Syria. As long as they are getting their money.
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中俄當然不會通過這項決議，因為他們不想賣給敘利亞的武器資金收不回來。隻要拿到了錢，他們才不會在乎敘利亞是不是死了200萬人。
Emissary
Russia has a military main base at the port of Tartus, built in 1971. A smaller base is at Latakia. Bashar al-Assad does not charge the Russians for using Latakia and Tartus, nor does he charge them for water or electricity. When Basher al-Assad took over, Syria was still $11 billion in debt. In 2006, Putin brought Assad to the Kremlin and forgave more than 70% of that debt, in return for continued free use of Latkia and Tartus, and for concessions in Syria's natural gas. Russia’s lease on the port of Sevastopol (Crimean area of Ukraine) will expire in 2017, and Russia wants a new place for its Black Sea fleet. Ukraine charges Russia $93 million per year for using the Sevastopol base, and Ukraine keeps demanding more money. less
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回複lotrman45：
俄羅斯1971年在敘利亞塔爾圖斯港口修建了軍事基地，另一稍小些的基地修建在敘利亞拉塔基亞。敘利亞總統巴沙爾·阿薩德從未收取俄羅斯人使用塔爾圖斯和拉塔基亞港口的任何費用。巴沙爾阿薩德接手敘利亞時，敘利亞欠債110億美元。2006年，普金邀請阿薩德訪問克林姆林宮，豁免了超過70%的上述債務。作為回報，俄羅斯繼續免費使用塔爾圖斯和拉塔基亞，特許使用敘利亞天然氣。2017年，俄羅斯租賃的塞瓦斯托波爾港口（烏克蘭克裏木地區）到期，俄需要為其黑海艦隊尋覓一個新的基地。並且每年，俄還需向烏克蘭交付9300萬美元塞瓦斯托波爾港口使用費，烏克蘭還在不斷地要求更多。
ChristopherZ
This is why the UN is a useless pile of trash. "Useless Nonsense" "Unnessecerry Nitwits"
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這就是為啥說聯合國是沒用的垃圾。“廢話”，“無需存在的傻子”。
lotrman45
Exactly. The UN has always been useless.
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回複ChristopherZ：
正確。聯合國一直都沒什麽用。
nessb
Let's hope no one decides to pull another (stupid) 'shock and awe' like in Iraq. Do people forget that the majority of these people are citizens who have children and just want the best for their kids. Like us, they all have dreams, fall in love and have families!
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讓我們祈禱沒人再一次采取像在伊朗發生的“震懾與恐嚇”行動。人們早忘了敘利亞反總統人士中大部分人都是平民，他們也有自己的小孩，他們隻是想給孩子最好的。他們像我們一樣，也有夢想，愛情和家庭。
HateKillers
Syrian government is not the one killing people...Western powers and Saudi Arabia and Qatar are the one killing people in Syria and Russia and China know that.
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回複nessb
敘利亞政府不是殺人的凶手。西方各國，沙特阿拉伯和卡塔爾才是真正的凶手。俄羅斯和中國了解這一真相。
soquil
Usually I disagree with the idea 5 countries can veto the will of a
majority..But in this case I say bravo to china and russia because you
can't be fooled forever by the same warmonger that uses the UN for its own agenda...Peace between Palestine and israel would have been
reached for years should the US stopped from vetoing all resolutions
against israel...
The last resolution against Libya was supposed to create a no fly zone, not to provide a massive air support to the rebels... less
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通常情況下，我不同意5個國家行使否決權否認大部分國家意願這一構想。但在這一次事件中，我為中俄的行為喝彩，因為他們沒有被戰爭販子屢次利用聯合國為自己的國家議程開路的行為所蒙蔽。如果美國停止否決所有反對以色列的決議，那多年前巴基斯坦和以色列都該和平了。關於利比亞的最終決議本應該建立禁飛區，而不是為反對派提供大規模空中支持。
ShovelingSnw
Syria will keep killing its people.
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敘利亞會接著屠殺人民。
lotrman45
hatekillers: where is the proof that the west is killing people in Syria? China has a group dictatorship whereas Russia is just jealous that they lost in the Cold War.
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回複：
hatekillers: 你有什麽證據證明西方在敘利亞殺人？中國獨裁主義，俄羅斯不過是妒忌他們在冷戰中戰敗而已。
HateKillers
Wrong. Syrian government is not the one killing people...Western powers and Saudi Arabia and Qatar are the one killing people in Syria and Russia and China know that.
5 hours ago| Like| Report abuse
回複lotrman45
錯。敘利亞政府不是殺人的凶手。西方各國，沙特阿拉伯和卡塔爾才是真正的凶手。俄羅斯和中國了解這一真相。
fonseka1
Americans have run the world nearly a century now. Its time for them to go back to their cave and let the BRICS take over.
美國人到現在統治世界已接近一個世紀。是時候讓他們回自個兒山洞裏待著，讓“金磚四國”接手了。
jamesdeanski
BUT What can we expect from a communist state and a former
communist state now run by a despot??...they are accountable to no one and rule
their respective countries by the sheer persuasive power of the gun…freedom and
democracy are obviously not their favourite ideas.
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我們怎麽能對一個共產主義國家和一個現在被暴君統治的前共產主義國家抱有期盼？？他們不值得任何人信任，用槍炮統治各自的國家。自由和民主顯然不是他們想要的菜。
palmer1619
The US and the other countries have a lot of nerve complaining about China and Russia saying no to sanctions for Syria. China and Russia are merely following in the footsteps of the US in that their countries are making a lot of money from Syria. I know that the US and other countries are saying their proposal of sanctions are for humanitarian reasons, but that's just another one of those convenient lies. All the years that we've been benefiting from trade with these dictatorships, our countries haven't said beans about the way the Syrian people have been treated by their governments. Everything, and you can't get away from it, is about money. less
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美國和其他國家對中俄否決敘利亞決議有很多不滿。中俄投反對票的原因，跟美國投讚成票原因相同，都是因為錢。我知道美國和其他國家以人道主義的理由支持對敘利亞決議，但那不過是他們慣用的一個謊言而已。這些年美國在跟這些獨裁統治貿易往來中獲得巨大財富時，對敘利亞政府如何對待敘利亞人可從未發表過任何意見。所有事兒，你都無法繞開的，就是錢。
HateKillers
Right. I agree with you. The whole thing is based on lies.
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回複palmer1619
同意。整個事件就是建立在謊言基礎之上。
jamesdeanski
Again, I hope the free people of Libya and the soon free
people of Syria will NOT FORGET how China and Russia supported the tyrant’s hands
that oppressed and brutalized them.
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再次聲明，我希望利比亞自由人民和很快就自由的敘利亞人民不要忘記中國和俄羅斯是如何支持這兩國暴君奴役鎮壓他們的。
HateKillers
Forget about the free people of Libya...Most of them are gone now or they are dead... there is no more free Libya..
回複jamesdeanski
自由的利比亞人民？別想了...現在大部分利比亞人要麽流離，要麽死了...利比亞自由不再...
jamesdeanski
Obviously, China and Russia didn’t want the U.N. to
intervene even though the people of Libya and Syria were/are being massacred by
the despots Gaddafy and Al-Assad because they (China and Russian governments) too
are ruling their respective countries in despot-like dictatorial manner. BECAUSE they too would not want the free
world to intervene as they dictate, impose and do whatever they want to their
own people.
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顯然，即使利比亞和敘利亞人被卡紮菲和巴沙爾·阿薩德大規模屠殺，中國和俄羅斯也不想聯合國插手這兩國事務。原因在於中國和俄羅斯政府跟敘利兩國一樣，獨裁，壓製，對各自的人民為所欲為，不想將來國際自由社會插手他們兩國的內政。
HateKillers
Shut up man...
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回複jamesdeanski
兄弟，閉嘴吧
Delicieux
I love watching the video of the US delegation walking out as the Syrian
ambassador criticizes the US. Haha, bunch of pouting babies, looking
infantile before the governments of the world XD
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我喜歡看敘利亞大使指責美國時，美國代表團憤怒離席的視頻。O(∩_∩)O~一群撅著嘴的嬰兒，在世界政府麵前看起來那麽幼稚。
fandb54
indeed. they can dish it out, but they cant take it. All i can say to rice is "The truth hurts doesn it?"
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回複Delicieux
確實。他們能拚命責罵別人，但不能接受指責。我要對賴斯說的隻有“真相刺痛你了，是吧？”
sphere82
well, it is a sign of a real democrat to listen even to those you disagree with.
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回複Delicieux
嗯，一個真正的民主者能聽進去那些與自己意見不同話語。
Crabapple
Why sit around and listen to BS? Leaving shows you disagree, not that your pouting. But is makes sense for you to criticize if you support the Syrian government.
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回複Delicieux
為什麽要坐在那兒聽他們胡扯？是離開說明你不同意，而不是撅嘴說明什麽。但如果你支持敘利亞政府，那你指責他們的離開就能說得通了。
（譯文來自龍騰網 翻譯: ）
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美網民評中俄否決製裁敘利亞
論壇出處：西陸中國軍事 作者：耕叟 時間：2011-10-07 01:16:57
美國CNN網站報道：周二（4日），中國和俄羅斯阻止了其他大國的努力，行使了否決權，使聯合國安理會無法通過呼籲立即停止敘利亞總統巴沙爾·阿薩德對反對者鎮壓的決議……美國網民對此發表了評論（原文網址http://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/04/world/meast/syria-unrest/index.html?hpt=hp_t1）
【網民評論】
NewsAnalyzer
1. So, the USA is mad at Russia for using a veto to protect Syria.
2. In a few weeks, the UN will be presented with a resolution to admit The State of Palestine as a full UN member.
3. Then, Russia will be mad at the USA for using a veto to protect Israel.
4. Is this how the UN permanent members are supposed to behave?
5. Abolish this stupid UN veto system. Make it more representative and democratic: 1 nation = 1 vote.
6. Make the 193 members vote on resolutions. Pass a resolution if it wins 2/3 of the vote.
1.美國對俄羅斯行使否決權保護敘利亞“非常憤怒”。
2.過幾周，聯合國將提出決議承認巴勒斯坦國作為聯合國正式成員國。
3.然後，俄羅斯對美國行使否決權保護以色列“非常憤怒”。
4.這是就是聯合國常任理事國本應該做的？
5.應該廢除愚蠢的聯合國否決權體製。聯合國應更富有代表性和民主性：一個成員國，一張選票。
6.193個聯合國成員國共同表決。三分之二國家投讚成票，決議通過。
AC1968
What a surprise, China and Russia support massacreing and opressing a nations populace to keep them in line under a ruthless government.
深感意外，中俄會支持一個殘酷的政府屠殺鎮壓民眾。
AnandMangala
I can understand why China is against UN intervention since it has a similar situation in China, but why Russia is supporting the atrocities of Bashar al-Assad I fail to understand ?
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因為中國有跟敘利亞相似的國情，所以我能理解中國反對聯合國“幹預內政”，但我始終不明白俄羅斯支持暴君巴沙爾·阿薩德的原因，我哪兒沒理解透？
lotrman45
of course Russia and China won't pass it. They don't want to lose their money selling weapons to Syria. Russia and China would not care if 2 million people were dead in Syria. As long as they are getting their money.
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中俄當然不會通過這項決議，因為他們不想賣給敘利亞的武器資金收不回來。隻要拿到了錢，他們才不會在乎敘利亞是不是死了200萬人。
Emissary
Russia has a military main base at the port of Tartus, built in 1971. A smaller base is at Latakia. Bashar al-Assad does not charge the Russians for using Latakia and Tartus, nor does he charge them for water or electricity. When Basher al-Assad took over, Syria was still $11 billion in debt. In 2006, Putin brought Assad to the Kremlin and forgave more than 70% of that debt, in return for continued free use of Latkia and Tartus, and for concessions in Syria's natural gas. Russia’s lease on the port of Sevastopol (Crimean area of Ukraine) will expire in 2017, and Russia wants a new place for its Black Sea fleet. Ukraine charges Russia $93 million per year for using the Sevastopol base, and Ukraine keeps demanding more money. less
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回複lotrman45：
俄羅斯1971年在敘利亞塔爾圖斯港口修建了軍事基地，另一稍小些的基地修建在敘利亞拉塔基亞。敘利亞總統巴沙爾·阿薩德從未收取俄羅斯人使用塔爾圖斯和拉塔基亞港口的任何費用。巴沙爾阿薩德接手敘利亞時，敘利亞欠債110億美元。2006年，普金邀請阿薩德訪問克林姆林宮，豁免了超過70%的上述債務。作為回報，俄羅斯繼續免費使用塔爾圖斯和拉塔基亞，特許使用敘利亞天然氣。2017年，俄羅斯租賃的塞瓦斯托波爾港口（烏克蘭克裏木地區）到期，俄需要為其黑海艦隊尋覓一個新的基地。並且每年，俄還需向烏克蘭交付9300萬美元塞瓦斯托波爾港口使用費，烏克蘭還在不斷地要求更多。
ChristopherZ
This is why the UN is a useless pile of trash. "Useless Nonsense" "Unnessecerry Nitwits"
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這就是為啥說聯合國是沒用的垃圾。“廢話”，“無需存在的傻子”。
lotrman45
Exactly. The UN has always been useless.
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回複ChristopherZ：
正確。聯合國一直都沒什麽用。
nessb
Let's hope no one decides to pull another (stupid) 'shock and awe' like in Iraq. Do people forget that the majority of these people are citizens who have children and just want the best for their kids. Like us, they all have dreams, fall in love and have families!
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讓我們祈禱沒人再一次采取像在伊朗發生的“震懾與恐嚇”行動。人們早忘了敘利亞反總統人士中大部分人都是平民，他們也有自己的小孩，他們隻是想給孩子最好的。他們像我們一樣，也有夢想，愛情和家庭。
HateKillers
Syrian government is not the one killing people...Western powers and Saudi Arabia and Qatar are the one killing people in Syria and Russia and China know that.
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回複nessb
敘利亞政府不是殺人的凶手。西方各國，沙特阿拉伯和卡塔爾才是真正的凶手。俄羅斯和中國了解這一真相。
soquil
Usually I disagree with the idea 5 countries can veto the will of a
majority..But in this case I say bravo to china and russia because you
can't be fooled forever by the same warmonger that uses the UN for its own agenda...Peace between Palestine and israel would have been
reached for years should the US stopped from vetoing all resolutions
against israel...
The last resolution against Libya was supposed to create a no fly zone, not to provide a massive air support to the rebels... less
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通常情況下，我不同意5個國家行使否決權否認大部分國家意願這一構想。但在這一次事件中，我為中俄的行為喝彩，因為他們沒有被戰爭販子屢次利用聯合國為自己的國家議程開路的行為所蒙蔽。如果美國停止否決所有反對以色列的決議，那多年前巴基斯坦和以色列都該和平了。關於利比亞的最終決議本應該建立禁飛區，而不是為反對派提供大規模空中支持。
ShovelingSnw
Syria will keep killing its people.
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敘利亞會接著屠殺人民。
lotrman45
hatekillers: where is the proof that the west is killing people in Syria? China has a group dictatorship whereas Russia is just jealous that they lost in the Cold War.
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回複：
hatekillers: 你有什麽證據證明西方在敘利亞殺人？中國獨裁主義，俄羅斯不過是妒忌他們在冷戰中戰敗而已。
HateKillers
Wrong. Syrian government is not the one killing people...Western powers and Saudi Arabia and Qatar are the one killing people in Syria and Russia and China know that.
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回複lotrman45
錯。敘利亞政府不是殺人的凶手。西方各國，沙特阿拉伯和卡塔爾才是真正的凶手。俄羅斯和中國了解這一真相。
fonseka1
Americans have run the world nearly a century now. Its time for them to go back to their cave and let the BRICS take over.
美國人到現在統治世界已接近一個世紀。是時候讓他們回自個兒山洞裏待著，讓“金磚四國”接手了。
jamesdeanski
BUT What can we expect from a communist state and a former
communist state now run by a despot??...they are accountable to no one and rule
their respective countries by the sheer persuasive power of the gun…freedom and
democracy are obviously not their favourite ideas.
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我們怎麽能對一個共產主義國家和一個現在被暴君統治的前共產主義國家抱有期盼？？他們不值得任何人信任，用槍炮統治各自的國家。自由和民主顯然不是他們想要的菜。
palmer1619
The US and the other countries have a lot of nerve complaining about China and Russia saying no to sanctions for Syria. China and Russia are merely following in the footsteps of the US in that their countries are making a lot of money from Syria. I know that the US and other countries are saying their proposal of sanctions are for humanitarian reasons, but that's just another one of those convenient lies. All the years that we've been benefiting from trade with these dictatorships, our countries haven't said beans about the way the Syrian people have been treated by their governments. Everything, and you can't get away from it, is about money. less
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美國和其他國家對中俄否決敘利亞決議有很多不滿。中俄投反對票的原因，跟美國投讚成票原因相同，都是因為錢。我知道美國和其他國家以人道主義的理由支持對敘利亞決議，但那不過是他們慣用的一個謊言而已。這些年美國在跟這些獨裁統治貿易往來中獲得巨大財富時，對敘利亞政府如何對待敘利亞人可從未發表過任何意見。所有事兒，你都無法繞開的，就是錢。
HateKillers
Right. I agree with you. The whole thing is based on lies.
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回複palmer1619
同意。整個事件就是建立在謊言基礎之上。
jamesdeanski
Again, I hope the free people of Libya and the soon free
people of Syria will NOT FORGET how China and Russia supported the tyrant’s hands
that oppressed and brutalized them.
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再次聲明，我希望利比亞自由人民和很快就自由的敘利亞人民不要忘記中國和俄羅斯是如何支持這兩國暴君奴役鎮壓他們的。
HateKillers
Forget about the free people of Libya...Most of them are gone now or they are dead... there is no more free Libya..
回複jamesdeanski
自由的利比亞人民？別想了...現在大部分利比亞人要麽流離，要麽死了...利比亞自由不再...
jamesdeanski
Obviously, China and Russia didn’t want the U.N. to
intervene even though the people of Libya and Syria were/are being massacred by
the despots Gaddafy and Al-Assad because they (China and Russian governments) too
are ruling their respective countries in despot-like dictatorial manner. BECAUSE they too would not want the free
world to intervene as they dictate, impose and do whatever they want to their
own people.
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顯然，即使利比亞和敘利亞人被卡紮菲和巴沙爾·阿薩德大規模屠殺，中國和俄羅斯也不想聯合國插手這兩國事務。原因在於中國和俄羅斯政府跟敘利兩國一樣，獨裁，壓製，對各自的人民為所欲為，不想將來國際自由社會插手他們兩國的內政。
HateKillers
Shut up man...
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回複jamesdeanski
兄弟，閉嘴吧
Delicieux
I love watching the video of the US delegation walking out as the Syrian
ambassador criticizes the US. Haha, bunch of pouting babies, looking
infantile before the governments of the world XD
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我喜歡看敘利亞大使指責美國時，美國代表團憤怒離席的視頻。O(∩_∩)O~一群撅著嘴的嬰兒，在世界政府麵前看起來那麽幼稚。
fandb54
indeed. they can dish it out, but they cant take it. All i can say to rice is "The truth hurts doesn it?"
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回複Delicieux
確實。他們能拚命責罵別人，但不能接受指責。我要對賴斯說的隻有“真相刺痛你了，是吧？”
sphere82
well, it is a sign of a real democrat to listen even to those you disagree with.
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回複Delicieux
嗯，一個真正的民主者能聽進去那些與自己意見不同話語。
Crabapple
Why sit around and listen to BS? Leaving shows you disagree, not that your pouting. But is makes sense for you to criticize if you support the Syrian government.
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回複Delicieux
為什麽要坐在那兒聽他們胡扯？是離開說明你不同意，而不是撅嘴說明什麽。但如果你支持敘利亞政府，那你指責他們的離開就能說得通了。
（譯文來自龍騰網 翻譯: ）
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