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在許多人印象中毛澤東的生活是官方宣傳的所謂“艱苦樸素”,但是正象名言所說:謊言可以在某時騙得某些人,但是不可能永遠騙下去.從以下張戎的毛澤東傳記一段記述中,我們對毛的奢侈生活可以略見一斑:
毛喜歡別墅。起碼有五十多所別墅在全國各地為他建起，北京一地就有五所。大部分他從未涉足。這些別墅往往地處優美的風景區。一旦中選，整座山或整片湖岸、海岸便被封閉起來，專供毛享用。這些地方通常有過去留下的精美住宅，毛一聲令下，它們就被拆掉，給他另蓋房子。毛總是要新房子，從安全舒服的角度設計，由他的警衛部門監工建造。房子都得防彈防炮，有的還防原子彈。絕大部分是同一式樣，進門一間特大的大廳，左右兩翼各一排房間，外觀像一座鋼筋水泥的大倉庫。
毛的別墅都是平房，他不喜歡住樓房，據身邊人說是怕困在樓上下不來。天花板特別高，有的高過兩三層樓。毛喜歡氣派宏大。六十年代中期在南昌市外蓋的一所，叫 “八二八”，大約十三公尺高，好似一個灰蒙蒙的大飛機庫。大部分別墅的走廊之寬，非一般人所能想像。毛死後有些別墅改成招待所時，在上麵造起一排房間，餘下的地方還可以容一條正常的走廊。
毛最早的別墅大概是北京城西的“新六所”，一進京就開工修建。陸續又建別的，三反、五反照建不誤。有一所在海濱勝地北戴河，一九五四年完工。北戴河從二十世紀初就是避暑勝地，有六百多座有錢人的別墅，但沒一所合毛的意。按照他的標準，都不安全。毛的新別墅建在一個山凹裏，麵向大海，背後是鬱鬱蔥蔥的山，裏麵整個被工兵掏空，為毛修建成萬無一失的防空洞和隧道。隻有極少數中共領導和他們的家屬、隨從才可以靠近。
一九五二年，毛的警衛負責人羅瑞卿捎口信給湖南，要他們在省會長沙給毛造一幢房子，說“主席可能回家鄉看一看”。湖南領導不知道建房是否真是毛的意思，因為時逢三反、五反，大興土木好像說不過去。到北京去問，沒有答覆。他們把自己的寓所騰出來，翻新裝修，加設洗手間，安裝蹲式馬桶。但毛沒有回來。他們恍然大悟，原來造別墅是毛的意思。直到別墅“蓉園”落成後，毛才回長沙。後來，蓉園旁邊又給毛修了一幢大同小異的別墅，名曰“九所”。毛的故鄉韶山一個村子就造了兩幢別墅。其他省當然部盼著毛的光臨，聽到上邊傳話：“主席來了也沒個地方住。”於是都紛紛破土動工。
為了防備不時之需，毛的別墅都有通向附近軍用機場的直達線，有的是火車專線，有的是地下車道。毛有時住在停於軍用機場內的專列上。一國之主的毛好像生活在隨時有生命危險的戰場。
毛外出時有三套旅行工具待命：火車、飛機、輪船。他一旦上天，全中國所有的飛機都得落地。專列說開就開，其他火車全部讓道，鐵路運輸也跟著被打亂。
毛喜歡遊泳。在那個遊泳池極為罕見的貧窮年代裏，他為自己造了不少遊泳池。第一個在玉泉山，建於三反中，根據毛自己的數字，“建造費五億”（舊幣）。三反中私用公款一億就算“大老虎”，要判死刑。毛後來沒去遊過，嫌池子太小。在中南海裏麵，為他建了個室內遊泳池。中南海本來已經有個室外遊泳池，毛進京以前對公眾開放。毛進中南海後，內部的人，頭些年還可以在毛不遊的時候去遊泳，到後來，兩個遊泳池都歸他獨占。
遊泳池的水是靠鍋爐房把水蒸氣用管子輸入來燙熱的。讓它們保持溫暖，以待毛的駕臨，耗資浩大。
毛是個美食家，愛好的食物來自全國。他愛吃武昌魚，於是武昌魚便用飛機運來，放在裝滿水的塑膠袋裏，充上氧氣。為了味道鮮美，毛吃米要求米與穀殼之間的薄膜不能碾去。有一次毛嚐出他吃的米薄膜沒有了，對管家說他因此缺乏維生素，得了腳氣病。管家連忙叫玉泉山農場準備一碗飯的米（毛每頓吃一小碗飯），用磚頭輕輕磨掉穀殼，留下裏麵的薄膜，管家親自跑到玉泉山把米拿回來，總算使毛的下一頓飯吃得滿意。
玉泉山農場專為毛生產大米，據說那裏的水特別好。“玉泉”從前供給宮廷飲水，現在澆灌毛的水稻。毛喜歡的蔬菜，以及肉類牛奶，由另一個叫“巨山”的特殊農場供給。毛鍾愛茶是中國最好的龍井，產在一座特別的小山頂上，在每年最適宜的季節，采下來送進北京。毛的食物都經過化驗檢查。做飯時管家站在廚師旁邊看著，也負責嚐菜，“嚐味道，嚐安全”。毛的廚房離他吃飯的地方相當遠，怕油煙味鑽進毛的鼻子裏。炒菜得現炒現吃，工作人員便提著一道道菜飛快地來回跑?
毛不喜歡洗澡，一九四九年以後就沒洗過。他喜歡的是讓人用熱毛巾天天給他全身擦澡。他不洗頭，喜歡享受理發師給他篦頭的快感。毛也喜歡舒舒服服地每日一按摩。他不愛進醫院，醫院的設備加最好的大夫上門服務。要是毛不高興見他們，他們就留在那裏等候召見，有時一等幾星期。
毛不講究衣著，他愛的是舒服。他的鞋多年不換，因為舊鞋才舒適。必穿新鞋了，他讓警衛戰士替他穿鬆了再穿。他的浴衣，毛巾、毛巾被都補了又補，一床毛巾被有五十四個補丁。但它們可不是平常的補丁，是拿到上海去請手藝最好的師傅精致地織補的，費用比買新的不知高過多少倍。這不是什麽“艱苦樸素”。世界上許多隨心所欲的巨富和極權者，常有這類享樂怪癖。
當然，一國領袖享受些奢華、別墅，沒有什麽了不起。毛的不同是，他一邊盡情揮霍，一邊把自己打扮成節約的楷模，要全中國人民都在極端艱苦中過日子，對挪用國家財產遠不如他的人無情懲罰，乃至槍斃。
在性生活方麵，毛統治下的人民忍受比清教徒還清教徒的約束。分居兩地的夫婦一年隻有十二天探親假，千百萬中國人成年累月沒有機會做愛。私下的性發泄可能帶來公開的羞辱。有個華僑回到祖國，有次忍不住手淫，第二天被迫在宿舍床頭貼出供眾人嗤笑的“自我批評”。
毛本人的性生活卻是完全的放縱。一九五三年七月九日，解放軍總政治部批發了為中央警衛團選拔文工團員的決定。彭德懷一語道破，說這是“選妃”。後來這成了整彭德懷的一條罪狀。彭的反對不起作用，部隊文工團成了毛的應召站。毛在各地的別墅，也都挑選了對毛胃口的護士、服務員，隨叫隨到陪毛睡覺。
毛偶爾給女友們一點補貼，有時也給身邊人或親戚一點錢。數目最多不過幾百塊，但毛總是每一筆都仔細親自交代。多年來他的管家每隔一段時間要向他報一次帳，毛不時還察看帳目。
毛補助身邊人的錢是從中央特別會計室拿出來的，“特會”存著他的稿費。那年頭中國絕大多數作者都不許出版，而人人都得“讀一輩子毛主席的書”，毛著作的銷量可想而知。據毛身邊人說，一九六○年代，毛的稿費達兩百萬元以上。這在當時簡直是天文數字。與此相比，當時中國一般工作人員一年工資大約四百多元，有的農民一年辛苦到頭才得現金不過數元。
出現在人前時，不管是公開還是私下，毛都不給人一種驕奢淫逸的印象。毛自然是不“貪汙”的，整個中國國庫就是他的荷包。中國的錢怎麽花，沒有第二個人有最後決定權。凡是他想要的，他都隨心所欲地拿取，對國家錢財毫不顧惜。
毛的畸形經濟下中國產生了一個獨一無二的百萬富翁：毛澤東。
4] In China, many many people died in the 60's last century. Anyone with basic common sense and knowledge know that: "You just can not blame the whole thing to Mao." It was the "lump sum" just happened when Mao was in charge. In the past, in USA, tens of millions Indians got murdered - can you just balme the US President at that time? Chairman Mao had done much more good things to China than shortcomings. Even the French president said that he was a big "contributor" to mankind.... What you should do is to tell the Chinese need to treat their own people nicer and nicer. (Too bad, the Chinese have treated the non-Chinese much better then their own people for a very long time)
5] To yijibang:
You are using a Japanese name "YiJiBang". I tell you that you Japanese should not write on Chinese web-site spreading bad rumors. That is real evil! Stop it, the Jap!
3] Per 忘我: "You are too old to talk here..." You got to be joking. Firstly you can not say this. You discriminate the ages - thsi is a legal issue. I actually can sue you in the court. From other point of view, let me ask you, "Do you still admire Mr. Plato? Mr. Jesue, Mr. Conficius? A person's wisdom may not relate to age at all. It all depenmds whom you are talking about.
I am retired now, I am studying Chinese culture and history, study logic & philosophy(from a retired Philosophical professor), and I am taking courses in the near-by university on Anthropology. My classmates are teenagers and my teacher is younger than me. Who said that I am too old? You poor little "girl"(I assume that you are a youbg girl), wake up and open you eyes widely... OK?!
1] 張戎的"毛－鮮為人知的故事”is full of gossips, rumors, and made-ups. After you, anyone, read this book, your/her/his IQ will drop by 30%! It is wise for you to take my advice: Don't need to help this trash(張戎) to make "dirty illegal" money.
2] Per yijibang: "...I have a right in this country to select my teacher..."
My answer is yer or no. About 40 years ago when I was a graduate student, my Department Head "forced" me to take his "Material Science" class instead of another "better" professor's. I had to comply. It might be for the sake of scholarship ... for living. ... No matter where you live, you just can not do whatever you want to do. Just read the American news papers, their reports almost have one tone, which is different from the Canadian news with the same event.
Remember Dan Rather(?), the TV anchor man. Dug out Bush's old story ...then got "fired". He has kept his mouth shut since.
This is the game you have to follow to live on earth.
1] 張戎的"毛－鮮為人知的故事”is full of gossips, romors, and made-ups. After you, anyone, read this book, your/her/his IQ will drop by 30%! It is wise for you to take my advice: Don't need to help this trash(張戎) to make "dirty illegal" money.
2] Per yijibang: "...I have a right in this country to select my teacher..." My answer is yer or no. About 40 years ago when I was a graduate student, my Department Head "forced" me to take his "Material Science" class instead of another "better" professor's. I have to comply, might be for the sake of scholarship ... for living. ... No matter where you live, you just can not do whatever you want to do. Just read the american news papers, their reports almost have one tone, which is different from the Canadian news with the same event. This is the game you have to follow to live on earth.
3] Per 忘我: "You are too old to talk here..." You got to be joking. Firstly you can not say this. You discriminate the ages - thsi is a legal issue. I actually can sue you in the court. From other point of view, let me ask you, "Do you still admire Mr. Plato? Mr. Jesue, Mr. Conficius? A person's wisdom may not relate to age at all. It all depenmds whom you are talking about.
I am retired now, I am studying Chinese culture and history, study logic & philosophy(from a retired Philosophical professor), and I am taking courses in the near-by university on Anthropology. My classmates are teenagers and my teacher is younger than me. Who said that I am too old? You poor little "girl"(I assume that you are a youbg girl), wake up and open you eyes... OK?!
4] In China, many many people died in the 60's last century. Nayone one with basic common sense and knowledge know that: "You just can not blame the whole thing to Mao." It was the "lump sum" just happened when Mao was in charge. In the past, in USA, tens of millions Indians got murdered - can you just balme the US President at that time? Chairman Mao had done much more good things to China than shortcomings. ... What you should do is to tell the Chinese need to treat their own people nicer and nicer. (Too bad, the Chinese have treated the non-Chinese much better then their own people for a very long time)
5] To yijibang: You are using a Japanese name "YiJiBang". I tell you that you Japanese should not write on Chinese web-site spreading bad rumors. That is real evil thign! Stop it, the Jap!
You are too old to talk here. You are not a true scientist either, because you are not logical nor truthful.
I am very lucky that I am not your student. At least, I have a right in this country to select my teacher and what I want to learn. Shame on you and those students sitting your class who have to follow your idiot thinking that Mao is great. Or they will suffer your abusing to be flunked. I am not American white and African American (you don't call them black). I know whom should I respect and that is my right. You have no point to force anyone to follow your thought. I am conscious and no way I will respect Mao who had killed at least 70 million Chinese during those days including my numerous family members. I hope you know what you are talking about. I will ignore your comments from now on. Be good and take care of your old body and brain.
I am a hot blood Chinese. I see many hot blood Irish, Italians, Central Asians, Koreans ... just don't see too many hot blood Chinese. Too bad.
Resnd my writing where I have answered most of your claims.(such as(1) Eisenhower's words, (2)condemn the misleading writer, (3)announce that 張戎is worthless) I am a senior by age. It's Ok you don't agree. I am a sentist by profession. It's fine if you don't think so. What I am saying is to show you that I am a clear thinker with lots of experience and knowledge. If you read my writing, you should learn. Well, if you were in my class, I would flunk you three times in a row. Because you are logically messed up.
1] It is everybody's responsibility to condamn the "evil" articles. This kind of writing mislead people. In America, you still can not say anything you want to say. You got to know about 100 years ago, if you blame the Senator, you would be considered as a traitor. Please open you eyes and read some history. BTW Im a scientist.
2] Eishenhower was a good general but he was a poor political leader. You hav know that all the recent American presidents: Nixon, Ford, Johnson, Regan, Carter, Bush, Clinton paid Chairman Mao great respect. This is a fact! And the world leaders around world, except the Russian leaders, all have considered Chairman Mao is a great guy! So, if your were a black/white American, you should follow the presidents: respect Chairman Mao.
3] Chairman Mao is THE person stopped the Chinese defeating fate lasted for over 100 years. This is also fact. So, if you were Chinese, some kind, you also need to pay respect to Chairman Mao. Otherwise, you may still be considered as the dof's leve;. Remeber:" Chinese and dog not allowed!" in front of of the parks in China?
4] Give you a good concept: No Dong(黨) is good or bad by birth. It all depends on who is doing it. I am a non-partisian. I don't blame the whole group, I may say this person is doing the wrong things. For some Taiwanese independent people, they will say that KMT is devil. Right now, some countries are being called devils ...Hahaha!
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Please read one more time of my writing, calm down and don't get emotional. You don't act like a senior. I am wondering what is your point to claim that you are a scientist? I am not sure what we have discussed has to do with science. It is strickly personal opinion. Take it easy, you look like a child to me. Hahaha...Hope you don't have hypertension. Good luck and enjoy your life and reading, just don't get upset when you see different opinions.
...Otherwise, you may still be considered as the same level as a dog. Remember:" Chinese and dog not allowed!" signs were hang in front of the parks in China 70 years ago. ...(typing errors corrected)
Don't you see 張戎 wrote this for money???
2] Eishenhower was a good general but he was a poor political leader. You hav know that all the recent American presidents: Nixon, Ford, Johnson, Regan, Carter, Bush, Clinton paid Chairman Mao great respect. This is a fact! And the world leaders around world, except the Russian leaders, all have considered Chairman Mao is a great guy! So, if your were a black/white American, you should follow the presidents: respect Chairman Mao.
3] Chairman Mao is THE person stopped the Chinese defeating fate lasted for over 100 years. This is also fact. So, if you were Chinese, some kind, you also need to pay respect to Chairman Mao. Otherwise, you may still be considered as the dof's leve;. Remeber:" Chinese and dog not allowed!" in front of of the parks in China?
4] Give you a good concept: No Dong(黨) is good or bad by birth. It all depends on who is doing it. I am a non-partisian. I don't blame the whole group, I may say this person is doing the wrong things. For some Taiwanese independent people, they will say that KMT is devil. Right now, some countries are being called devils ...Hahaha!
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OK, are you learning somethhing now? I am a senior, I am qualified to say like this.
I don't think it is appropriate to criticize author like you have just done. It is even more absurd to ask WXC to remove the article. I can understand your Pro-Mao mentality and I respect that. By the same token, it is always a good practice to respect others opinion. You can publish the similar book about Mao and show that your point of view with more solid evidence. It is a pity to see that you are so offended by this article. By the way, I kind of agreeing what the author said. President Eishenhower used to criticize Chinese communists under Mao, they are devils, and the things they are doing are only deveils can do and even worse. Hope to read your book about Mao in the future. Wiserman!
張戎："...毛澤東...這非常難。我想其中一個一定是極度的自私，...他做的一切都是為了自己，而沒有想到中國人民..."
HuCheBaDao!
Read the history about Mao's early age! Mao joined KMT earlier than Chiang KeiShick - Mr. Wang JinWei liked Mao very much, and Mao was assigned by Dr. Sun YetSen as the backup of Central Committee of KMT. Mao devoted himself to "save " China since his early age. ...張戎is a liar. No good at all!
Please don't spend money buy her book! It's a valueless novel. Haha, she tried to change the history! She is evil!
張戎的“毛 – 鮮為人知的故事”has no value whatsoever!
"...女作家張戎同丈夫、史學家何黎岱瀝盡12年心血，完成卷帙浩繁的毛澤東傳記..."
And now you know what kind of level those two are! Pretty low level. It took 12 years to write such garbage. That's sad! .... and what can you get after reading this book? you get nothing! I sincerely doubt about the readers IQ --- being fooled by this "rumor, gossips, and made-ups ". Alas! The world may come to an end soon!
作者:張戎
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旅居英國的華裔女作家張戎同丈夫、史學家何黎岱瀝盡12年心血，完成卷帙浩繁的毛澤東傳記：“毛 – 鮮為人知的故事”。在這本書的德文版出版之際，德國之聲記者采訪了張戎女士。張戎女士談了寫書的過程和其中一些要點，並希望引起史學家們的爭論。
書中的大量披露令人震撼。由於毛澤東是中國現代史上的核心人物，如果張戎的記載屬實，那麽這將意味著中國大陸的現代史必須重寫。不過，令張戎遺憾的是，她的毛澤東傳記迄今還沒有引起史學家的爭論。她期待此書中文版發行之後將會引發史學界的討論。張戎目前正在忙於中文翻譯，年底之前台灣的遠流出版社將在全球範圍內出版。
張戎對毛澤東的一生作了12年研究之後得出結論：毛澤東並不信仰共產主義。他最終成為一名共產主義者完全是因為蘇聯在上世紀20年代協助創建中國共產黨，為毛澤東提供了成為中共領袖的適當時機。是毛澤東個人的權力意誌主導了他的行動。張戎的成名作“鴻 – 三代中國女人的故事”曾被翻譯成30種語言，發行上千萬冊。她的新作“毛澤東 – 鮮為人知的故事”德文版今天開始發行。以下是記者就這部書對張戎進行的電話采訪。
采訪實錄
德國之聲：您花了12年寫“毛－鮮為人知的故事”。在這12年中，您最大的收獲是什麽呢？
張戎：我覺得很多，也沒有想到會發現那麽多新的東西。可是我和我先生兩個人在寫的過程中發現了很多使我自己也非常吃驚的事。比方說中國人都比較知道的長征，發現完全不象我們原來想象的那樣。整個長征過程中間，蔣介石完全是有意放走中共。長征中象什麽飛奪瀘定橋這些，實際上都沒有發生。我們就想，為什麽蔣介石要有意放走紅軍呢？通過大量的研究，我們發現，蔣介石的兒子，他唯一的親生兒子，也就是他的繼承人蔣經國，那時候被斯大林扣在蘇聯做人質。蔣介石一心要把他的兒子要回來。於是他就想出用中共的生存換回兒子這麽一個計策。最後是在西安事變的時候，斯大林要放蔣介石，要讓蔣介石見周恩來，蔣介石堅持不肯見周恩來。斯大林帶話來說，同意放他的兒子，他才見了周恩來。是這樣，國共內戰才結束的。就是中共換兒子，這個交易。
德國之聲：那麽這些材料您是在俄羅斯發現的？
張戎：有很多很的渠道了。俄羅斯檔案館是一個寶藏，裏邊有非常多的東西。我的先生會說俄文，他在俄羅斯檔案館進行了多年大量的工作。同時還有蔣介石本人的日記，還有各種各樣的材料。材料來源太多了。在我們的書後麵有100多頁的注釋。這些注釋裏麵詳細記載了什麽內容是從什麽史料得來的。
德國之聲：您開始搜集資料的時候，有沒有想到會有這麽多的新發現呢？
張戎：沒有。簡直沒有想到。我以為寫毛傳不會很難，可能幾年時間就夠了。我以為我對毛澤東相當了解。我沒有想到會有那麽多跟我們現在所知道的曆史截然不同的東西。長征中間還有一點使我非常吃驚的，就是，遵義會議上並沒有確定毛澤東的領導地位，不象中共曆史所說的那樣。是毛澤東在遵義會議以後耍手腕，才得到張聞天的幕後操縱人這麽一個地位的。遵義會議完了以後，毛澤東堅持不肯進四川，去跟張國燾會師。他怕會師以後，張國燾資曆比他老，當時手下的紅四方麵軍比他的強，他怕張國燾會理所當然地當上黨的領袖。為了躲避跟張國燾會師，毛就帶上中央紅軍繞了一個大圈，多走了三分之一的路，多走了4個月，把紅軍從突破湘江時候的4萬紅軍拖到剩下筋疲力竭的不到1萬，這是我從來不知道的。跟張國燾會師以後，因為紅四方麵軍還是比他強，毛又盡力地破壞紅四方麵軍，而且獨霸打通蘇聯的道路。這也是我感到非常吃驚的。毛整個的戰略設想，怎麽奪取中國，他主要想的就是要靠蘇聯，他在1923年就說，共產主義要在中國勝利，非得蘇聯紅軍從北邊打進來不可。所以整個的長征吧，他們也就是為了到北邊去靠近蘇聯，打通蘇聯，接受武器援助。毛澤東為了把張國燾甩在他後邊，也耍了很多手腕，對紅四方麵軍做了極大的破壞。這些我都覺得是聞所未聞，非常吃驚的。
德國之聲：您剛才說到俄羅斯檔案館。不過我們的聽眾都看不到您書後的信息來源。您能否說一下，您最重要的信息來源是什麽？
張戎：剛才說到的俄羅斯檔案館是最重要的信息來源。當然中國國內也有很多史料發掘。這些史料是很多人不知道的。比方說我們書裏麵用了楊開慧的手稿。楊開慧是毛澤東的第二個妻子。毛澤東經常說楊開慧是他一生中最愛的女人。可事實上他把楊開慧和他的三個兒子都拋棄了。1927年，以後，1930年，在楊開慧被國民黨抓去以前，他完全可能救楊開慧的，可是他沒有，任楊開慧被國民黨抓去，然後槍斃了。楊開慧的手稿是非常重要的。絕大部分在中國國內沒有發表。這些手稿是楊開慧在被捕以前寫的，寫了以後就把它藏在她的房子裏。藏在屋簷下，一部分藏在兩塊磚頭中間。這些手稿裏她表達了對毛澤東的愛，對毛澤東拋棄她和三個兒子的怨，而且最重要的還有她對共產主義的失望，共產主義的信仰帶來很多暴力，殺戮，她對這些的失望。她要重新尋找一個新的信仰。這些在中國大陸都是大家沒有看見的，甚至毛自己的家人也不能看見。可是我們就很幸運地有了這些材料。
德國之聲：楊開慧的這個手稿您是在哪個檔案館看到的呢？
張戎：中國國內的這個事情我就不想多說了。隻想說一句，中國大陸有很多人，都非常希望關於毛的這些材料能夠公諸於世。所以這麽多年來給了我們很多幫助。我們有幸地得到了很多很寶貴的材料。還有，中國的開放使中國在80年代90年代實際上公布了很多檔案。這些公布是各檔案館，比如中央檔案館，或者湖南檔案館，或者四川檔案館，用資料選編這樣的形式出版的。很多是內部發行。後來這些內部發行的東西在外邊也可以看見了。這些選編裏有大量的，非常寶貴的檔案，比方說，關於長征，有十多本這種選編，這些史料選編裏麵就有大量的國民黨軍隊當時來往的電報，包括國民黨軍隊追堵紅軍長征史料選編，這些來往的電報就是我們得出蔣介石放走中共的結論的一個重要來源。從這些材料裏麵我們可以看出，比方說在瀘定橋那兒，我們可以看出，中共黨史中所說的守橋的那些國民黨軍隊實際上並不在那兒。還有中國大陸出版了很多年譜啊，很多重要的回憶錄。這些回憶錄並不是光憑記憶的，而是那些檔案館裏有人找材料來寫的。還有些日記。我們十年裏很多時間都是花在搜集這些材料上，來消化它們，然後來寫這個傳記。
德國之聲：您剛才說飛奪瀘定橋，您是說那裏沒有人把守的，是這樣的嗎？
張戎；是這樣的。最重要的是可以證明，那裏根本沒有打仗。最先過橋的是22個人。象斯諾寫的那樣，打得很激烈。可是實際上這22個人一根毫毛也沒有傷。我們從當時紅軍辦的報紙叫戰士報上可以看出，這22個人都還活得很鮮，他們還有個小小的儀式，每人還發了一雙碗筷，有很多具體的細節。
德國之聲：那麽您認為，為什麽共產黨要編造這樣一個長征的神話呢？
張戎：這是一個神話。把這寫成一個很英雄的史詩。當時，當這個神話出籠的時候，還有紅軍長征是去北上抗日這樣一個神話，給這個整個過程一個英雄的彩環。實際上完全不是這樣。說到抗日戰爭。抗日戰爭起來的時候，中共的絕大部分人確實是很想抗日。如果他們當時真的去抗日了，那麽很可能他們已經被消滅光，或者大傷元氣，不可能在中國奪權的了。毛澤東是非常精明的，他堅決不肯打日本。不光是要保存中共的實力，而且在敵後擴大根據地，他自己在日本人對他道歉的時候對日本人說：我們應該感謝你們。沒有你們占領中國的大片土地，我們就不可能建立那些根據地，我們也不可能到北京來聽京戲，也不可能進城。
德國之聲：毛澤東是二十世紀最著名的人物之一，關於他的書已不少，是什麽動機促使您為世人再增添一部毛澤東的傳記呢？
張戎：我開始寫的時候，就覺得，那些寫的關於毛澤東的東西不能夠說服我。是種種疑點使我去寫毛澤東傳的。我相信通過我們寫的毛澤東傳，給這些疑點都得出了一個我認為圓滿的答複。比方說剛才說的抗日，也有很多人說毛澤東是為了保存實力。可是我們就問了下一個問題，毛澤東保存實力，有什麽用呢？如果日本人打垮了蔣介石，堅決反共的日本是不可能放過中共的。那麽毛澤東這個時候的打算是什麽呢？他總不能相信還是相當弱小的中共可以把日本人趕出去吧？那麽這個時候我們就發現，毛澤東一心想的是把蘇聯拉進來。因為他相信蘇聯人不會讓日本人獨吞中國，然後用中國作基地去進攻蘇聯。斯大林最怕的就是這個。他的戰略就是，在日本人打敗了蔣介石以後，在這個關頭，斯大林就會出兵中國，和日本瓜分中國，就象斯大林和德國瓜分波蘭一樣。波蘭模式就是毛澤東在整個抗日戰爭中間的戰略基點。
德國之聲：盡管您閱讀了大量的史料，但您的書讀起來象小說一樣生動，您的秘訣是什麽呢？
張戎：這是花了很多時間，把複雜的國際鬥爭，把毛澤東的計謀怎麽說得深入淺出，既準確，又使一般人都很清楚，這是非常不容易的。沒有別的辦法，隻有花時間，不斷地改。我相信我們的時間沒有白費。
德國之聲：您這本書中哪些論點在史學家中引起了最大的爭議呢？
張戎：我非常失望的是，到現在還沒有引起什麽爭論。對這些具體的事實，沒有人出來說，我們說的哪一件事實是錯的。有人說也隻是說，是否應該說一下毛澤東幹了什麽好事，這本書是不是把毛澤東說得太壞了。
德國之聲：毛澤東現在仍然是中國的一個核心人物，比如說現在還有他的紀念堂，還有他的像等等。中國共產黨也還是常常引用他的話。您認為未來中國會對毛澤東重新評價嗎？
張戎：我沒有辦法預言。可是我隻有希望他們能夠重新評價毛澤東，希望他們能夠跟毛澤東劃清界線，能夠堅決摒棄毛和毛的一切遺產。現在中國經濟發展很快，但世界上的人民不會對中國放心，如果中國不堅決跟毛澤東劃清界線的話。因為從我們的書裏可以看出，毛澤東造成了7000多萬中國人的死亡，他還說，為了他的那些項目上馬，中國人可以死一半。而且毛澤東一心要的是稱霸世界。如果中國領導人還繼續說他們是毛澤東的接班人，你說全世界人民能放心嗎？
德國之聲：您現在是一位毛澤東專家了。我想請您用三到五個形容詞來概括一下這是一個什麽樣的人。
張戎：這非常難。我想其中一個一定是極度的自私，和隨心所欲。他做的一切都是為了自己，而沒有想到中國人民。他又是一個極度的鐵石心腸的人，對他的家人也是如此，他給中國帶來了巨大的災難，中國領導人自己說是一個前所未有浩劫。毛澤東在道德上是一無可取的。他導致7000萬中國人在和平時期死亡，這是一個非常可怕的數字。比方說在大饑荒，據我們統計，3800萬人死了以後，毛澤東還要繼續搞大躍進，所謂大躍進是什麽呢？實際上就是出口糧食，出口到蘇聯去買核武器，核工業，核軍事工業，來使中國變成一個超級軍事強國，使毛澤東本人可以稱霸世界。他又是一個腦子非常非常精明的，眼光非常長遠的，考慮事情周到的這麽一個謀略家吧。
張戎簡介
張戎1952出生於中國四川宜賓，她當過紅衛兵，農民，鋼鐵工人，赤腳醫生。後來在四川大學學習英語專業，並留校當助教。1978年她就離開中國前往英國，成為新時代獲得英國博士學位的第一位中國人。
——原載：《德國之聲》
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From Buddhism point of view, if you write something and mislead people, then you have done a bad thing. You will get penishment as reward.
If you write, you are responsible!
Thanks.
She(張戎) with her Russian husband(in England) just use Mao's name to make money. All(and Only) the stupid people bought her book as a donation to her bank account!
在中國,
共產黨的最大的本事就是洗腦:
把白的說成是黑的,
不這樣說就鎮壓你.
想活著就不能不做狗,
不過對很多人來說,
知道自己做狗是一件很痛苦的事,
所以就deny.
他們唯有做狗了.