印度人J： 人很聰明，活也幹的不錯，屬於有小聰明無大智慧的那種，一直努力搏出位。他自 己時常主動和公司高層管理單獨約見，提供自己對公司對部門的看法，以及對自己 現狀的不滿。其實公司領導和中國曆史上皇帝昏君沒什麽兩樣，都是隻愛聽好話， 不愛聽負麵意見，而在領導麵前表現自己也是雙刃劍，表現的不好時等於朝自己腳 上開槍(shoot in the foot) ，中國有句話叫“藏拙“不是沒有道理的。
他有時來找我分享他和公司大頭1 ON 1 的內容，他對公司的很多看法其實也都不錯， 但恰好不是上層所願意麵對與承認的。他對老板也不忠心，常常背後傳播關於老板 的壞話，時間一長，名聲就出去了，在我們公司的政治鬥爭中他苦鬥了兩輪但最終 被踢出局
I believe what司令 describes the characteristics of the east indians is just scratching the surface. I dont believe their english is the main reason that they have been more "successful" in this new land called america. I had the idea to write a book to document the brotherhood of the indians and chinese in the silicon valley, in 2002. But I have not written a single word yet, but amazingly an d shockingly, i have not had any changes in my understanding of the main points of the book, even after so many years continuing working day and night with the our indian brothers (i.e., literally brothers and sisters, of course).
回複淑女司令的評論:
Cannot agree with you anymore. It absolutely matches the experiences of many of my friends and my. How can we 寬宏大量 when they throw big stones on our heads? The best approach so far is just as what you suggested. Avoid them. Life is so short. Work is big part of our life. It would be much more enjoyable at work if our co-workers are simply professionals.
I agree with the author because of the Indians that I have dealt with. They are very snaky and dishonest. There might be some good ones. But they certainly are not majority.
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Agree. It matches my experience.
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要酷,要有原則。喜歡。我也想到了那句話：“走自己的路，讓別人說去吧。”
當然又想到了小沈陽的那句話，“走別人的路，讓別人無路可走。”hehe.
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Once worked for an Indian company in the bay area / owner is an Indian… it’s a very diverse company: Indians/ most of them, white, Chinese….I agreed with you on most points about the Indians… Do you know Indians think they are white/ race wise? Anyway, talking about office politics, white people are even better at….. They do it with ease and subtlety, but more destructively….
the company i am in now, you should be here taking a look at those white people... what they do is just to hop in and out boss's office, closing the door... gossipping, back stabbing.... you name it.... very ugly....
Pure bulls**t!! My Ph.D. advisor is an Indian and I had many Indian friends when I was a graduate student. My advisor is the one who has the sweetest personality among all people I've ever encountered. He helped me in every possible way that a advisor could help a student. All my Indian friends are easy to dealt with even though we had great deal competitions for a lot of things (grades, financial assistant to name a few). On the contrary, there were several Chinese who played nasty politics and tried to take advantages of other people's fault to gain favor of powerful people in the dept
I agree mostly. But we should look at people individually. People from different background, we can always find someone who we love to be with. Indians also have some something good that we can learn from. First, they like to help each other just because they look like each other. Second, their teamwork, social life, and community involvement is more active.
回複supernova13的評論:
points taken, my aritcle was a bit unfair and extreme
supernova13 發表評論於
Please be fair
(1) Some Indians are very smart and hard working. Just like Chinese, they play a pivotal role in Silicon Valley's success.
(2) Many Indians engineers and Chinese engineers cooperate well. They do appreciate each other's good work.
(3) When it is a boss-employee relationship, then it all depends on the personality/characteristics of the people involved. No need to generalize too much.
(4) Of cause, Indians have their own circles, but isn't that true for other ethnic groups?
印度人J： 人很聰明，活也幹的不錯，屬於有小聰明無大智慧的那種，一直努力搏出位。他自 己時常主動和公司高層管理單獨約見，提供自己對公司對部門的看法，以及對自己 現狀的不滿。其實公司領導和中國曆史上皇帝昏君沒什麽兩樣，都是隻愛聽好話， 不愛聽負麵意見，而在領導麵前表現自己也是雙刃劍，表現的不好時等於朝自己腳 上開槍(shoot in the foot) ，中國有句話叫“藏拙“不是沒有道理的。
他有時來找我分享他和公司大頭1 ON 1 的內容，他對公司的很多看法其實也都不錯， 但恰好不是上層所願意麵對與承認的。他對老板也不忠心，常常背後傳播關於老板 的壞話，時間一長，名聲就出去了，在我們公司的政治鬥爭中他苦鬥了兩輪但最終 被踢出局
