老教授被Bully,求建議。

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My friend is a tenured full professor. ~70 years old. Working in a state university ranking ~250th. He loves his work of teaching and research. He is in good health and performs at least above average.

He has been given new courses every semester to teach in the past three or four years, which has taken him  time away from  doing research. Yet his chair demands him to meet the milestones in research she set for him. And he got very little or zero salary increase during the past 4 years.

He felt discriminated against. He thought all the tricks his chair has been doing is to force him to retire. He has complained to HR. But the result of HR investigation says, "no evidences of wrong doing" in his Chair's part.  He then took the case to the university president, and the case is about to close.

My friend is fighting for his academic life and reputation. He doesn't want to retire. At the very least, he does not want to be forced to retire with a damaged reputation.

Any suggestions to help him to deal with this situation? Does he need a lawyer to look at his case? What type of lawyer and how to find good lawyer?

Additional information: He is the only tenured, full professor in the department. The majority of the faculty are non-tenure track. He has voiced strong objections to the Chair's attempt to promote and tenure her favorite faculty and hire that faculty's husband.

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江湖險惡,個人的力量是微博的。珍惜生命,遠離小人 -julie116- 給 julie116 發送悄悄話 julie116 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 06:33:44

True. -JasmineZ- 給 JasmineZ 發送悄悄話 JasmineZ 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:13:42

Many institutions have Office of the Ombudsperson. Your friend m -蘇梅- 給 蘇梅 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 07:31:04

Office of the Ombudsperson有可能會提供一些校外的法律援助的聯係人。 -蘇梅- 給 蘇梅 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 07:32:46

Ombudsperson?? Can you clarify? -JasmineZ- 給 JasmineZ 發送悄悄話 JasmineZ 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:15:02

請看進來 -蘇梅- 給 蘇梅 發送悄悄話 (269 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:48:35

Thanks. -JasmineZ- 給 JasmineZ 發送悄悄話 JasmineZ 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 08:44:39

沒有覺得被Bully。他既然選擇繼續工作就得繼續perform,包括教學和研究。得看看對別人的要求是不是一樣 -twototango- 給 twototango 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 07:43:35

Hard to compare because he is the only full professor. -JasmineZ- 給 JasmineZ 發送悄悄話 JasmineZ 的博客首頁 (159 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:18:46

同意,如果資曆最高那要求相應更高。在公司上班的不是也要一直做新項目嗎,很正常呀 -妙妙~- 給 妙妙~ 發送悄悄話 妙妙~ 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 16:51:41

他是不是funding 沒了? 聽說有些終身教授工資什麽的 是funding 出,學校加工資的不指望 。 可能不全對,看專業, -Shanghaigirl98- 給 Shanghaigirl98 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 08:00:54

He has some funding. His salary is covered by the state. -JasmineZ- 給 JasmineZ 發送悄悄話 JasmineZ 的博客首頁 (79 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:21:36

最近高校在進行關於ageism 的study,顯然,你這個朋友在經曆age discrimination。 這是 -笑薇.- 給 笑薇. 發送悄悄話 笑薇. 的博客首頁 (914 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:20:41

如果美國所有大學都是70多歲的賴著不走,也就完蛋了。這個老教授應該想法多做研究,多上課不是他想要的,個人建議 -刁小山- 給 刁小山 發送悄悄話 (92 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:27:20

Many professor decide not to retire at 70. -JasmineZ- 給 JasmineZ 發送悄悄話 JasmineZ 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:33:53

我當然知道,一般都是很牛的(84的都有),或者有些事隻有他幹得了 -刁小山- 給 刁小山 發送悄悄話 (176 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:35:09

這些人的經驗是幾十年積累起來的,應該充分利用他們,而不是趕他們走。比如說,做講座,而不是講課,為青年 -笑薇.- 給 笑薇. 發送悄悄話 笑薇. 的博客首頁 (104 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:45:38

每個人情況不同,有人80 歲了,仍舊思維敏捷,記憶超群,有的已經癡呆。那個 -笑薇.- 給 笑薇. 發送悄悄話 笑薇. 的博客首頁 (489 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:42:56

Great suggestions. He likes to be active. -JasmineZ- 給 JasmineZ 發送悄悄話 JasmineZ 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:31:17

他是否可以做個關於 phased out retirement 的study。有幾個州都在 -笑薇.- 給 笑薇. 發送悄悄話 笑薇. 的博客首頁 (22 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:32:33

Thanks. -JasmineZ- 給 JasmineZ 發送悄悄話 JasmineZ 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:34:53

實際上這麽大年紀還老教新課已經是很強的signal了,老教新課就沒時間做研究,新課這麽大年紀也不一定教得好。Chair很油,做的 -刁小山- 給 刁小山 發送悄悄話 (279 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:24:21

He is one of those people who consider work as life, or least -JasmineZ- 給 JasmineZ 發送悄悄話 JasmineZ 的博客首頁 (95 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:38:30

這個就沒法子了,薄熙來也想當總書記呢 -刁小山- 給 刁小山 發送悄悄話 (38 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:40:57

難得一個人這麽執著地追求自己的生活和事業。常說的一句話是,teaching is a way of live rather th -笑薇.- 給 笑薇. 發送悄悄話 笑薇. 的博客首頁 (17 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:49:30

not sure about that. staying at that position allows him to earn -Smart- 給 Smart 發送悄悄話 (35 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 18:36:52

真的熱愛教書育人兒不是愛這個位子的話,可以去社區學校半職的義務勞動幫助很差的那些學生啊? -mickey222- 給 mickey222 發送悄悄話 mickey222 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 17:42:42

He loves the job and the position. -JasmineZ- 給 JasmineZ 發送悄悄話 JasmineZ 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 02:20:45

it is time to retire. -Smart- 給 Smart 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 13:25:52

Full professor 不做研究,隻是教書就沒優勢!係裏也許等有空位了招新的研究方向 -npoaks03橡樹- 給 npoaks03橡樹 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 17:02:42

退休吧。位置太少,很多高學曆的年青人在等位置。七十歲是到了該退的年令啦。退休金可以維持生活。想繼續教學科研,不占位置,係裏通常是 -FollowNature- 給 FollowNature 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 17:05:00

70了還不退休?人生苦短啊... -雲夢- 給 雲夢 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 05:08:00

錢差不多就得了! 70歲退休正好開啟新的人生, 健身運動旅遊寫作想幹啥幹啥, 非得"死心眼兒"的鑽研學術在係裏受氣啊? -愛吃肉的胖子- 給 愛吃肉的胖子 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 11:23:03

人老了想法觀念等都和周圍有斷層,該退出職場了 -headshoulder- 給 headshoulder 發送悄悄話 (117 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 11:24:54

別把寶貴的時光用在與人鬥上-無論為己為人,都該退了。 -霧裏看花123- 給 霧裏看花123 發送悄悄話 霧裏看花123 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 11:37:49

該退休了 -Young06120- 給 Young06120 發送悄悄話 (424 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 12:10:01

天哪,美國大學裏麵這種人太多了,賴著不走。八十歲都不走的。 -北美平民2015- 給 北美平民2015 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 12:13:59

退了吧,順勢而退,明智而為。否則,終為輸者。這是忠告!!! -胥鈞屏- 給 胥鈞屏 發送悄悄話 胥鈞屏 的博客首頁 (104 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 12:14:05

+1 -VioBal- 給 VioBal 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 12:16:35

美國大學應該有一刀切製度,否則你看我,我看你,誰也不願退休。 -北美平民2015- 給 北美平民2015 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 12:15:39

美國大學的頹拗已經在多方麵負麵影響科技發展速度,現在已經被越來越多的大學 -胥鈞屏- 給 胥鈞屏 發送悄悄話 胥鈞屏 的博客首頁 (458 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 12:32:30

不太識相的老人太多。當年的鄧小平英明,非搞一刀切。 -北美平民2015- 給 北美平民2015 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 12:19:24

這老教授如果還有research fund 在手裏,學校不會急著趕你走,還指望靠他給學校貢獻錢呢 -Calab- 給 Calab 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 12:48:01

這個我上麵就提出這個問題, funding。。。。。 -Shanghaigirl98- 給 Shanghaigirl98 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 21:02:07

送給這個老教授一句話,惹不起,躲得起。或退休,或調離 -thetruth111- 給 thetruth111 發送悄悄話 (68 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 16:07:56

都活到這把年紀了,還看不開想不通,不明智啊。 -Darma- 給 Darma 發送悄悄話 Darma 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 18:27:36

沒看出來有bully, 既然他占著夕裏唯一的 tenured full professor的位置,當然應該做相應的貢獻。 -xiaomiao- 給 xiaomiao 發送悄悄話 xiaomiao 的博客首頁 (279 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 19:29:29

第一不支持糸主任的工作與糸主住對著幹,要嗎你走人要嗎糸主任走人。一個糸是一個團隊,自己資格最老本應該支持糸主任的工作,反而對著幹 -chongqingguy- 給 chongqingguy 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 20:30:52

Funding, where is the funding... No increase of salary is normal -GeorgeInCA- 給 GeorgeInCA 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 23:48:23

If you cannot do research ,why not choose to retire? Let younger -street0120003- 給 street0120003 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/09/2019 postreply 03:46:47

Retire, such a thing happens everywhere. No fairness to everyon -瞎扯淡- 給 瞎扯淡 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/09/2019 postreply 04:15:52

真的喜歡做研究,就轉成 Emeritus,一樣做研究,係裏肯定支持,說白了還是money driven -znggg- 給 znggg 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/09/2019 postreply 04:54:33

太普遍了。 -yueli- 給 yueli 發送悄悄話 yueli 的博客首頁 (391 bytes) () 11/09/2019 postreply 10:17:51

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