對迷惘的風(十八)的部分評論
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替宋晴不值,張成現在跟她,完全是利益關係。
風中玫瑰 於 2004-09-08 06:39:31
她既然能經濟獨立,為什麽不能感情獨立?隻有利益關係的婚姻,還有什麽存在價值?何況這個利益還是張成的利益,不是宋晴的利益。
回複:替宋晴不值,張成現在跟她,完全是利益關係。她既然能經濟
pgz 於 2004-09-08 07:54:05
I do not really think Zhang is taking advantage of SongQing. He really feel guilty about Xiaoyue so that he could not feel any thing. For Song Qing, more than 10 years good time, love, and happy memory is not that easy to forget. It is not she can not be independent, she can not believe all the love can dispear so fast. All the loves acculmulated during life is used to overcome the bad time like this. But as Zhang hurt her more, the love credits will be used more, once the love bucket is empty, the relationship is gone. more than ten years relationship, so much thing got through together, can not be cut over night.
My two cents.
不同意。她早在張成回國的時候就想到會有另外一個女人的出現。
風中玫瑰 於 2004-09-08 08:00:19
當然一旦事情臨頭,感情很受傷,需要時間去療傷。但是其實她對於感情的態度,並不比張成理性多少。倒是曉月,所有的傷和痛都自己扛著。
其實通常來說,最放不下應該是曉月,最該糾纏的也是曉月。但是在這個故事裏曉月沒有。比較稀罕。
回複:不同意。她早在張成回國的時候就想到會有另外一個女人的出
pgz 於 2004-09-08 08:19:41
I guess we agree on the part Songqing should come back with Zhangcheng. I will do if my hubby insist to come back. It is her mistake she did not do it. Also it depends on circumstance, if Zhangcheng is only try out water, leave Songqing as backup in US, Zhangcheng is real bad to do what he did. Some years ago, I would think I could not tolerate any of my hubby’s mistake, now over so many years, there are so many ties, I do not really feel I can cut it over night. I guess it is complicated though, it is hard to imagine without being there, though I hope I will be never in that position.
I guess Xiaoyue keeps her self respect and dignity by leaving, at least it is consistent as her initial innocency, otherwise she would be a bitch, and I will really doubt if she plot the child, or did it innocently. Again, never done that, do not really know how that feels. Just a guess.
my 22 cents
MAZI 於 2004-09-08 10:07:47
I did meet the girls like Xiongyue in real life.to your surprise ,I just think they are kind of pathetic.
They do give people impression that they are very nice and care about others. But the thing is none can contribute in long run foreseeing no return ahead .their sacred sacrifice is all due to the self-pity and the extreme lack of confidence in themselves.
given the nature how they reason the things ,they are doomed to miss the goals they wanted to achieve . but once they have to confront the fact, they could become very bitter,resenting evertthing .
I dont give a shit for marrying 2milk ,but by all means ,it’s not wise to marry a 2milk with such personality.
to my knowlege ,the returnees like zhangcheng have very shakey position in china since they didnt bring much values to the company they work for except their smooth communication with westners,which is a skill can be caught up by local hirings very soon.without the ability to tap the oversea market ,they dont have the real competitive edge in the long run .but since they are low level management in US ,they barely have the network to do
that .
I dont give a shit to "bao 2milk", but zhangcheng is not up to par to do so .
he has to pay huge amount alimony to songqing if they get divorced, he would become pennyless and maybe jobless in the future.I dont think xiaoyue would have a baby with him after knowing this .
thanks for speaking out
pgz 於 2004-09-08 11:17:50
Agree. When you have a lot of age, it is pathetic to be innocent. They will ruin themselves, and possible others as well. But in this case, I can not blame Xiaoyue for ruining Songqing’s life, it is Zhangcheng and Songqing. Songqing gives Zhangchen the chance(but if they decide Songqing will stay back US just as back up, then it is purely ZhangCheng’s fault), and Zhangcheng seems will take this chance anyway, if it is not Xiaoyue, will be others. Xiaoyue would ruin herself any way just because of her innocency.
可不可以把欲擒故縱換個順序 用在這裏?
sanni 於 2004-09-08 12:12:16
從張成一意孤行的回國發展開始張和宋之間就有了裂痕,宋恐怕同時也已經開始反思自己的婚姻了。能討一個女人的歡心也就能討得多個女人的歡心,好大喜功,情場得意,這樣的男人一般沒有太深的城府也不會有太大的出息,好多主意怕是要老婆拿的。以宋晴的幹練,張成的回國恐怕不是她力不從心阻攔不了,而是力沒出心,張成的任性讓她不得不以此機會再次驗證自己的選擇(當然沒料到要以婚姻為代價)。宋晴如果真的還想留住張成,昨天以前就該走了。弱勢中的曉月在張成心中肯定是重中之重,沒有了對比,張成或許還會理智一些。曉月的悄然離去對她自己百利而
無一害,不是說她次舉比宋晴聰明,隻怕是宋晴已經不屑這麽做了,她要張成自己作賤自己在她心中的分量。這麽說來,自以為聰明的張成夾在兩個真正聰明的女人中間倒顯得很可伶了。這樣的情節亂的讓我心煩。
嗬嗬!其實作者也寫了曉月為自己的衝動後悔了,
風中玫瑰 於 2004-09-08 08:31:37
可是那個時候一切 都太晚了。
如果說張成跟曉月的愛情可以理解,那他讓曉月懷孕就不可理解。如果他不能富很多責任,就該避孕!!
這點自製力沒有?一個成年男人?
當然我也理解宋晴的感受,不可能一夜間斬斷10年的婚姻。但是奇怪的是她連考慮都沒考慮過這種可能性.
其實曉月從開始所講的“不賴著你””,多少是個陷阱。
無名讀者 於 2004-09-08 08:20:35
對她自己是自欺欺人,對張成來講是心理安慰。 事到臨頭,是誰的痛自己添。宋晴與張成的分居是兩人對環境及個人發展意見不一致的結果,並不是宋晴一個人的責任,況且張成也並為整個家庭作出什麽讓步。並不是每個家庭隻要分居就得出問題, 尤其是暫時分居,人是要有一定的自製力的。
風中玫瑰 於 2004-09-08 08:36:50
不是說誰的責任的問題。如果不能在一起,不如分手。
無名讀者 於 2004-09-08 08:51:59
如果感情能說分就分, 那就沒有了這許多淒美故事。
曉月從和宋分手後並沒做錯什麽,
紫水晶# 於 2004-09-08 08:45:39
我想這就是作者一開始寫的曉月,愛張成,想要他的孩子,雖然痛苦但並不糾纏。如果糾纏多了,就不是作者想寫的曉月了。
兩個人在這點上沒有可比性
見妮 於 2004-09-08 10:46:29
宋晴和張成的原本是個完整的家, 現在好比一麵鏡子有了裂縫, 雖難以彌補, 可要因此就把這麵鏡子給砸了, 不是那麽簡單。
曉月本來就生活在自己的想象中, 一直認為隻要宋晴不來, 張成不回去, 張成就是她的。 現在前提變了,宋晴來了, 她該知道在張成心中那邊沉哪邊重。
因為這種分居幾乎是沒有期限的。有多少人能夠戰勝人性的自私?
想想看,誰戀愛的時候不是想方設法地在一起?如果這種感覺沒有了,愛情就消失了。
風中玫瑰 於 2004-09-08 10:53:22
嗬嗬,你見沒見過死纏爛打得的女人?
嗬嗬, 說實在話, 我見過的女甩男的居多
見妮 於 2004-09-08 11:02:41
碰上過一個第3者的, 她自己也有家。 一對出牆的男女一起回了趟國, 女的嫌男的出手小氣, 跟他拜拜了。 我的這個朋友, 出牆男人的太太還沒來得及找律師, 她老公就痛哭流涕的回頭了。她老公是開診所的醫生, 一下子買了上百萬的人壽險給太太和孩子。
這死打爛纏無論如何也用不道宋晴身上, 何況往下還不知道誰纏誰那。
who is 死纏爛打
MAZI 於 2004-09-08 11:17:36
xiaoyue or songqing? give me a break !
knowing zhangcheng is a married man ,xiaoyue still gave birth to their baby reinforcing the tie between them. you dont see the 死纏爛打 in her but give the credits to songqing.Is it all because she has a legitimate relationship with zhangcheng and is giving a shot to save the marriage?
you must be insane.
physically,zhangcheng may like xiaoyue more right now .but who can ganrantee that he would stop at that point and not fall in love with another "xiaoyue" in the future? assuming his next affair is not so troublesome?
he relies on songqing spritually and financially.although for song,it’s the samething ,betray. and it’s not worth to brag about.
i think she would weigh the things altogether and make a decision.
回複:曉月從和宋分手後並沒做錯什麽,
MAZI 於 2004-09-08 10:23:23
what could xiaoyue do after break up with zhangcheng?
asking zhengcheng to get divorce for her? marrying her?she knew zhangcheng hates trouble . besides, it conlicts her innocent image she tried to keep all the time. so the only thing she can do to push thing forward is to concede in the first place .
putting their daughter at stake ,she is sure undecicive playboy zhangcheng cant just walk away with all the guilty .
I dont think songqing is independent.she is still zhangcheng’s legitimate wife back then .She was entitled to do everything she thought right to save her rocky marriage. If she suceeds,good for her ,if not ,she could ask for divorce .
It’s nothing to do with dependency.
回複:曉月從和宋分手後並沒做錯什麽,
無名讀者 於 2004-09-08 08:57:20
同意。但事後的痛絕不是曉月當初可以預見的, 或者說當初的灑脫是盲目的。
哀寞大於心死
迷惘的我 於 2004-09-08 07:26:28
林,那天,知道你們不在,特地繞道去看了看你的家。坐在車裏,默默地點了一隻煙,想像著裏麵你和家人的快樂。看的出來,你很愛這個家。從家門口到後院,真的是很漂亮。忽然明白了為什麽你從不給我任何承諾的原因。是啊,誰願意拋棄這麽舒適溫馨的家,為了一個毫不相幹的女子?從開始到現在,你不過是在遊戲,給平淡的生活添加一點調料而已。 我真傻,傻到忘了自己。為了你,我千裏迢迢來到這裏,沒有了工作,沒有了快樂,天天想的隻是見到你,為了你的一個擁抱,一個吻。而你,卻沒有給我一句承諾。如果你並不愛我,為什麽要重新開始這一切?為什麽不讓我離你遠遠的?算了吧,放了吧,還有什麽舍不得的。你不屬於我,過去不,現在不,將”也不。我不能說你是個壞男人,”你絕不是一個君子。 我真希望我能有這個勇氣,走到你的麵前,對你說,我們結束吧。
回複:哀寞大於心死
紫水晶# 於 2004-09-08 07:35:50
你是該結束了,因為到最後,你不僅會傷你自己,也會傷到另外一個女人,也許還有孩子。
回複:哀寞大於心死
無名讀者 於 2004-09-08 07:45:58
跨出一步是另一片天空, 隻是需要足夠的勇氣去克服那一份原本就不可依賴的感情, 祝你好運!
為什麽還不結束呢?
丁丁J 於 2004-09-08 09:40:25
這種男人還值得你為他留步嗎?難道還要等他說分手?那將對你是如何的羞辱,如同曉月?兩情相悅,如果帶給你的不是快樂,還有什麽舍不下的呢。繼續下去,隻能是更多的痛苦。
造化在你的手下:)
whisper 於 2004-09-08 13:33:36
一直在看你的這個係列。很抓人,和現實契合得很好。
發現一個問題,這裏麵的道德,輿論等方麵都有一邊倒狀態。張成之所以有兩個女人來愛,一定有一些過人的品質在裏麵,這裏不是指一些騙小女孩的燭光月下,善於製造浪漫氣氛的小把戲,而是某種氣魄,大丈夫頂天立地,善始善終。所以希望能看到他做出一些漂亮的事情來,而不是稀裏糊塗,隨心所欲,不負責任,事業不得意,情場也失意。隻有這樣他似乎更能撐得住這個矛盾的三角中的一角,似乎這樣更有戲些。
當然,也不妨把他往壞裏寫,往死胡同裏趕,但那樣不現實,不公平,他的角色變得更加向道具,用他來牽線塑造女人的故事,這樣更容易走進女性文學的局限性裏麵。
瞎說一通,盡供水沫參考。:)
Thanks so much
bluewoman 於 2004-09-08 07:12:37
I enjoy reading your articles. Give me a lot of pleasure.
北京胡同串子 於 2004-09-08 09:43:26
寫的真好,不光好看,還令人深思。謝謝! 唉,真是時代的悲劇!
無名音樂 於 2004-09-08 11:37:39
我能理解張成,盡管我也是女人,雖然他對曉月很殘忍,可是他是對婚姻負責,不是每個男人都能做到這點的。如果他拋棄宋睛,難道對他們的兩個孩子就不殘忍嗎?
難就難在隻有一個張成,錯就錯在碰到一張太難選擇的牌。
手有餘香 於 2004-09-08 17:48:19
這樣的生活如同雞肋,人不能生活在對過去的回憶中啊。
這篇小說倒是反映了比較現實的問題。舍得舍得,不舍那有得?