加拿大總理 與工程師管理的中國合作

馬克·卡尼總理被問及美加兩國對中國行為的聯合影響

福布斯突發新聞 2025年9月23日
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmHKSAmCAF8

問：

加拿大曆屆政府都與美國和中國密切合作，有時加拿大為此付出了巨大的代價。您如何評價我們在影響中國行為、經濟戰略、安全行為等方麵的聯合效力？如果您認為還有改進的空間，我們覺得應該做哪些改變？總是有改進的空間。嗯，我認為我們可以改進的一點，我想從加拿大的角度來談談對華關係。

馬克·卡尼：

就是更清楚地說明我們的合作領域。我之前隻是略微提到了這一點，但嗯，這是一個變量幾何學中的普遍觀點。

根據雙方誌同道合的程度，我們可以進行不同層次的合作。所以，關於中國，或者任何其他國家，無論你在哪裏深入參與，在能源領域，例如基礎製造業，你覺得深入參與哪個領域比較合適？哪些方麵應該被擱置，哪些方麵應該與國家安全、隱私等相關。

所以，第一，我們可以做得更好。第二，根據我與中國的經驗，他們在氣候問題上非常真誠，並且積極參與。這是一個由工程師管理的國家。他們了解很多解決排放問題的工程解決方案。

他們恰好在這些領域也建立了真正的競爭優勢。所以，問題是如何參與全球氣候議題，他們幾乎已經提出了一個長期方案，那就是如何參與其中。對於像加拿大這樣的能源超級大國來說，當我們肯定會建設並充分利用這些能源時，我們就會處理這個問題，我們也關心這個問題。這仍然是我們政策的一部分。

仍然是，所以有機會參與。再說一次，美國可以很容易地選擇這條路線，但目前可能還不是我們參與的最終目的。

Prime Minister Mark Carney Asked About Joint US-Canada Influence On China's Behavior

Forbes Breaking News 2025年9月23日
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmHKSAmCAF8

Previous governments in Canada have worked quite closely with the US visav China and sometimes it at at a great cost for Canada. how would you assess our joint effectiveness in influencing Chinese behavior, economic strategy, security behavior, etc. And what do you think we ought to be doing differently if you think there's room for improvement? there's always there's always room for improvement. Um that's uh I think one of the things that we can improve on, I'll say this from a Canadian perspective with respect to China?

Mark Carney
 is being clearer about where we engage. I alluded to it very lightly, but um and it's a general point in variable geometry. You have different tiers of engagement depending on how like-minded you are. So with respect to China or any other country that's well any other where do you engage deeply where you comfortable engaging deeply in the commodity space in in aspects of energy for example uh straight uh basic manufacturing where where there guard rails um and what should just be left off to the side elements that bridge into national security uh privacy other aspects like that. So that's where we can be we can be better number one. Number two, um in my experience with China,  they are amongst other things very sincere and engaged on climate. Uh this is a country run by engineers. This is a country that understands a lot of the engineering solutions to issues around emission. they've happened to have built real competitive advantage in a number of these areas as well. So there's a question of how and there is a almost a standing offer from them about how to engage in the global comments in and around climate uh which a country like Canada which is a it is an energy superpower um when we're certainly going to build and uh fully exploit that then we're dealing on and we care about this issue as well. It's still part of our policy.
is still part of uh uh and and so there's an opportunity to engage. Again, the United States can choose could choose that lane uh very easily, but probably at the moment that's not where the the engagement will