與Jayant Bhandari對話 印度文化 中印關係
隊長首次連線印度著名公知賈揚特!尖銳問題直球對決!解開印度殘酷真實一麵!精彩對談!First connection with Indian expert Jayant!
隊長來了 2025年5月27日
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你好,jant先生,歡迎來到本頻道。很多中國觀眾都對你印象深刻,他們認為你是印度學者中理性的觀察者,你對問題的批評基於務實的態度,這與今天的中國人很相似。我們將討論一些問題,第一個問題是……
Jayant
嗯,謝謝你邀請我,嗯,我覺得你的評估很正確,嗯,印度在與巴基斯坦的戰爭中失敗了。嗯,根據我目前所讀到或看到的內容,我認為巴基斯坦能夠在戰爭開始後的幾個小時內擊落五架印度戰鬥機。如果這是真的,那應該算是一項世界紀錄。嗯,因為我認為在任何一場戰爭中,都沒有在如此短的時間內擊落五架戰鬥機。現在,我認為很容易將莫迪對印度人進行洗腦的責任歸咎於莫迪。嗯,問題是,印度人已經準備好被洗腦了,他們喜歡被洗腦,他們想生活在自我欺騙之中。他們喜歡自欺欺人,嗯,嗯,嗯,從他們自己社會和文化的宏大視角來看,所以問題出在印度人自己身上,嗯,確實是莫迪的問題。莫迪是個精神病患者,莫迪是個低智商的街頭混混,因為印度的民主製度而登上權力寶座。聯邦層麵的民主是反婚姻的,這導致民眾投票選出嗯,最偉大的煽動家來掌權,這就是莫迪的本性。莫迪沒有主見,他隻是在做印度人民希望他做的事情,也就是煽動,讓印度人自欺欺人,好吧,
第二個問題
好吧,如果我要我建議中國政府如何與印度打交道,嗯,他們真的必須明白,善意對印度不起作用。印度在鄰國沒有朋友,沒有一個國家與印度保持友好關係。印度與巴基斯坦有問題,印度與中國有問題,與孟加拉國有問題。與馬爾代夫有問題,與斯裏蘭卡有問題,與緬甸有問題,所以它與每個國家都發生戰爭,它想欺負任何處於弱勢的國家,事實上,如果我沒有看錯曆史的話,印度想欺負中國,當時中國在50年代和60年代麵臨國內問題,所以印度會欺負任何它想欺負的人,它不懂得善意和友誼的概念,也不懂得坐下來解決問題的概念。現在印度和中國之間存在問題,存在邊界問題,我認為應該能夠和平地坐下來解決這些問題,原因很簡單,印度和中國之間有很多爭議地區,曆史上都是無人區,這意味著它們不屬於任何國家,它們不屬於任何國家,因此,你別無選擇,隻能坐下來談判,但印度的態度是,印度不會把一寸土地割讓給中國或巴基斯坦,現在,當你甚至不知道誰擁有那個地區的什麽的時候,這是行不通的,現在,嗯,你能嗎幫助印度進行教育和工業化,不,這是行不通的。問題是,作為一個印度護照持有者,你可以走進新德裏的中國大使館,立即獲得簽證來中國,如果你想明天去印度,你不能去印度,因為你不會獲得簽證,如果你想獲得特殊身份簽證去印度,無論你去哪裏,都會有一整隊警察來來往往,審問你要去印度拜訪的人,這就是印度的控製方式,所以印度不想要友誼,印度政府不想要友誼,因為印度政府不希望印度人對中國產生積極的看法。我已經來中國18年了,我去過中國的小城市,小城鎮,嗯,印度政府不希望印度人體驗到中國變化和發展的迅速程度,中國已經成為一個更宜居的地方,所以印度不希望印度人麵對這種經曆,嗯,所以你,你知道,如果中國想裝備巴基斯坦,我不會感到驚訝。軍事上確保巴基斯坦和印度之間繼續進行代理人戰爭,以防止中國與印度直接開戰,所以很遺憾,你知道我沒有解決這個問題的辦法,但問題是這個問題沒有解決辦法,印度人不想要和平,事實上巴基斯坦人也是一樣,他們不想要和平,他們喜歡戰鬥,他們喜歡那種刺激,那種精神上的刺激,那種通過仇恨別人而產生的腎上腺素激增,所以這些人會一直和你打架,你現在別無選擇,如果中國參與了破壞印度的穩定,問題是,一個不穩定的印度對印度來說比一個穩定混亂的印度更糟糕
印度,因為至少你們可以控製難民湧入中國,如果明天有一億人試圖越過邊境從印度進入中國,你們該怎麽辦?如果印度崩潰了,對中國來說將是一場危機。我知道你們可能擁有強大的武裝力量,但強大的武裝力量隻有在與武裝部隊作戰時才有效。如果有一億人試圖越過邊境,你們就麻煩大了。所以我猜中國政府應該……呃……不要破壞印度的穩定,但同時要確保邊境得到妥善保護。因為……呃……一旦邊界被破壞,一旦人們開始越境,印度就會變得不穩定,印度就會分裂成更小的國家,印度未來會麵臨很多問題,所以中國必須保護自己,而不是參與製造更多同樣的問題。好的,
下一個問題
外國,嗯,我最初用了印度人深受其害的兩個詞:自欺欺人,嗯,呃,我認為人們應該認真研究這個問題,因為印度是鄰國,你必須了解……印度人的思維方式是這樣的,這些人極其容易被誤導,他們確實是被嚴重欺騙的人,這就是印度人存在的本質,所以他們無可逃避,嗯,是的,印度人確實認為巴基斯坦贏得了最近的戰爭,嗯,印度能夠在巴基斯坦的新電視台上摧毀巴基斯坦,嗯,印度有消息稱,印度占領了巴基斯坦的城市,他們摧毀了與巴基斯坦有關的一切,他們即將占領整個國家,而實際上,印度在戰爭中慘敗,所以欺騙印度人非常容易,因為他們準備自欺欺人,他們現在想被欺騙,所以他們想相信印度是一個更加工業化的國家,印度是一個更……嗯……更好的地方,而中國人沒有自由,所以他們有……他們不想相信其他任何事情,事實上,如果你看看莫迪總理最近在推特或其他社交媒體上的帖子,你會發現他在談論印度的 GDP 是如何超過日本的,嗯,日本是第一世界發達國家,嗯,印度是第三世界地獄,沒有可比性,日本是世界前四五名國家之一,印度是世界前十或十五名國家之一,嗯,但印度人想要被愚弄,嗯,嗯,是的,印度人確實想要相信他們比中國更強大,嗯,你對此無能為力,嗯,這是我的問題,嗯,就好像如果我住在印度,而我不再住在印度,我確實經常訪問印度,如果我住在印度,我最大的敵人就是印度政府,為什麽嗯,原因是嗯,每當我在印度遇到公務員時,隻有一件事很重要,那就是賄賂,你必須親身經曆才能相信,當你在印度遇到公務員時,他唯一的興趣就是能從你身上得到多少賄賂,如果你是女性,也許還會得到性好處,所以就是這樣這就是印度政府人員的想法,他們是掠奪者,他們想要追捕你,嗯,印度警察比罪犯還壞,所以我想把我的印度政府視為我最大的敵人,任何傷害印度政府的人都是我的朋友,嗯,根據定義,所以在我看來,對於一個理智的印度人來說,印度在巴基斯坦手中的失敗是一個理智的印度人的勝利,因為他的敵人,也就是根本不考慮印度、根本不關心印度人民的印度政府,現在被打敗了,嗯,你能對混亂、腐敗和肮髒的印度做些什麽呢?嘿,隨著時間的推移,情況會變得更糟,嗯,印度將繼續變得更糟,我告訴你,印度人對中國的嫉妒將會持續增加,原因是印度將繼續惡化,至少在可預見的未來,我看到中國繼續進步,這將引起巨大的嫉妒,嗯,在中國,這是一個非常重要的問題,至少在西方國家是這樣。有一條叫做“十誡”的東西,意思是當你長大後,你的社會會教你如何做事,不要做這些,不要貪戀別人的女人,不要嫉妒,不要在法庭上提供虛假證據,這些在印度是沒有價值觀的。這意味著當人們嫉妒時,這種嫉妒是不受約束的,這種嫉妒是無法抑製的,他們會完全失去理智。所以印度人的嫉妒情緒會繼續增長,因為他們不會……因為印度會隨著時間的推移而持續惡化,至少在我的中央邦,法律和秩序現在是這樣的,我已經走遍了我的中央邦的所有地方。
印度的法律和秩序 100% 處於黑手黨的控製之下,所以黑手黨使用警察,他打電話給警察局長說,嘿,快去除掉這個人,殺了這個人,所以那個國家的法律和秩序狀況就是這麽糟糕,所以是的,情況會繼續惡化,中國對此無能為力,所以你印度的印度教徒(占人口的 80% 到 85%)支持以色列的唯一原因是因為巴勒斯坦人是穆斯林,對不起以色列,因為這些印度教徒是反穆斯林的,所以這就是他們支持以色列的唯一目的,現在我告訴你,我支持以色列,我認為以色列必須做它正在做的事情,因為它無法解決巴勒斯坦問題,巴勒斯坦人被灌輸了如此多的思想,以至於巴勒斯坦周圍的穆斯林國家都不願意接受巴勒斯坦難民,但話雖如此,印度人支持以色列對巴勒斯坦的戰爭的原因是他們的反穆斯林心態,而且這種心態正在增加印度正在蔓延反穆斯林的歇斯底裏,這最終會嚴重損害印度的利益,因為印度國內有近2億穆斯林,你真的無法把他們變成外國人,畢竟他們人口如此龐大,是主要的少數民族,而且我們對此束手無策。印度人應該喜歡不去恨穆斯林,但不幸的是,從政客的最高層開始,他們都想讓印度人學會恨穆斯林,所以不幸的是,這件事沒有出路。印度會再次因為錯誤的理由支持以色列,因為它是反穆斯林的,好吧,我們有……
這裏有七個問題,嗯,隻有四個,接下來的問題沒問題,好吧,嗯,嗯,嗯,首先,任何類型的移民對接收國來說都是一個大問題,如果任何社會中有少數移民,他們就會製造問題,因為他們無法融入社會。人們最好需要幾代人才能融入社會,但大多數人就是無法融入。嗯,不幸的是,它們是貧民窟。貧民窟是移民聚集的地區,他們聚集在那些地區,共同生活和工作。嗯,美國、加拿大、澳大利亞、新西蘭和英國有好幾代移民的貧民窟,所以這些人拒絕被同化,特別是來自第三世界的人,原因是第三世界國家是地獄,因為這些國家有這樣的人。所以你必須非常小心地引進來自南亞、撒哈拉以南非洲甚至拉丁美洲的移民,因為這些人創造了地獄,他們被拋在了後麵,現在他們來到了西方國家,他們不會被同化,他們會把西方社會變成第三世界國家,所以嗯,所以你是100%正確的,印度人不會被同化,但這不僅僅是印度人的問題,大多數人,大多數移民都不會融入西方,大多數移民來自第三世界國家,今天來到西方世界的移民中有90%都是這樣的。來自第三世界,所以不幸的是,西方世界存在著巨大的移民問題,我向你保證,這會摧毀西方社會,我為美國感到非常難過,我生活在美國,我愛這個國家,但不幸的是,它是一個偉大的國家,在我看來,它是地球上最好的國家,但不幸的是,在未來的二十年裏,它會因為第三世界人民而被摧毀,這就是我一直祝賀遠東亞洲國家,韓國、日本、中國、台灣、香港和新加坡的地方,因為這些國家沒有接納移民,因為這些國家對移民完全關閉,如果你作為難民來到中國或新加坡,你會遇到嚴重的麻煩,而如果你作為難民來到英國或加拿大,他們會歡迎你,他們會來擁抱你,他們會給你很多錢,他們會給你五星級酒店,他們會給你你想要的一切,所以嗯,遠東亞洲國家做的一件偉大的事情就是他們不接受來自第三世界的人,所以嗯,我最近在中國呆了很長時間,我遇到了很多年輕的中國中國人非常擔心未來,中國存在經濟問題,中國存在失業問題,但問題是,聰明人總是擔心未來,不太聰明的人不在乎,他們不擔心未來,所以無論中國發生什麽,中國人總是偏執,西方人也是如此,西方人偏執,因為他們是聰明聰明的人,聰明聰明的人擔心未來,因此他們總是偏執,也就是說,中國確實存在經濟問題,當你問中國是20世紀80年代的日本還是90年代的美國時1930 年代,我的想法,我的經曆,我在中國看到的東西,我說的是今年在中國旅行的幾個月,我的觀點是,中國不是 1980 年代的日本,中國很可能是 1930 年代的美國,在我看來,中國將繼續增長和進步,因為首先,我幾乎沒有看到中國發生內戰,我看到一個運作良好的政府,我至少作為一個外國人,我看到了社會穩定,這告訴我,中國現在將繼續增長,是的,當前的關稅戰對中國來說是一個問題,因為中國向美國出口的 10% 到 20% 取決於你如何計算,我認為中國直接向美國出口 10%,通過墨西哥、香港或其他國家向美國出口 10%,所以如果關稅戰繼續下去,中國將受到影響,但我真的真的希望中國和美國能夠以某種方式學會合作,我喜歡這兩個國家,我在美國生活感覺很棒這是一個可愛的國家,有著可愛的人民,我在中國也有類似的經曆。他們都是理性的人,有著共同的價值觀。我認為他們應該學會合作,而不是互相爭鬥。我認為中美之間不會發生戰爭,因為他們都是理性的人。但同時,我希望他們學會合作,因為這兩個國家可以通過合作來相互促進。但問題是,政府變得害怕,這與人民無關。到了一定程度,政府開始害怕其他國家的經濟和社會正在發生的事情。我不明白中國政府和美國政府之間的細微差別,所以我真的希望人們能夠醒悟過來,學會互相喜歡。這就是問題所在。嗯,在美國,當我告訴我的朋友關於中國的事情時,他們翻了白眼,不相信我,不相信中國取得了如此大的進步。同樣,我聽說,當我和中國的中國人交談時,他們對美國的看法是,他們擔心的是說美國的好話,因為存在著社會和同儕壓力,讓他們不要說太多。對美國持積極態度,所以我希望兩國人民能夠敞開心扉,理解彼此的相似之處而非不同之處。這兩個國家可以很好地合作。事實上,我在中國開車的時候,上周我在中國開車,嗯,當我在中國開車的時候,我會去一些新地方,我有時會覺得自己在美國,因為那裏的道路很像美國,汽車很漂亮,我去的新地方也很可愛,所以我覺得中國正在變成美國和日本的結合體,嗯,因為日本沒有寬闊的道路,日本也不是一個很大的國家,所以我覺得中國更像20世紀30年代的美國。不過,你還是要非常小心,因為有一個術語叫做增長恐慌,嗯,當社會發生變化時,它們會產生很多內部壓力,事情隨時都可能爆發,所以嗯,人們必須非常小心,政府必須非常小心,確保中國的經濟持續改善。嗯,我父親曾經經營著最重要的印刷廠之一。印度中部省份博帕爾市的印刷廠,博帕爾市是中央邦的首府,人口約 1.2 億,而中央邦本身就是歐盟最大的國家,所以我的父親在那裏經營一家印刷廠,我很早就和他一起工作了,我記得我四五歲的時候就開始和他一起工作了,來我父親印刷廠的人都是政客,所以我和這些人非常熟悉,嗯,我還能夠去天主教學校上學,幸運的是,由於幾個原因,我能夠培養獨立??的思維方式,我認為其中一個關鍵原因是我的父親,因為他經營自己的企業,他經營一家印刷廠,當你經營一家企業時,你必須了解因果關係,你必須了解反饋,你不能欺騙自己,我不能欺騙自己,認為我在經營一家企業,我會成為億萬富翁,不,如果你的公司虧損,你就會破產因為我和父親一起工作,培養了這種客觀性,而我父親是我一生中遇到的最誠實的人之一,所以他教會了我獨立思考,因為在這個國家,我從未遇到過
另一個誠實的人,所以我認為這幫助我培養了獨立思考的能力。但後來我去了英國和加拿大生活,我告訴你,這些人很有美德,他們講真話,他們寬容大度,富有同情心,樂於助人,所以我能夠提高很多方麵。
我開始在英國和加拿大生活後,開始思考各種思維方式,很好,嗯,好的,我們很高興邀請詹特先生從印度專業觀察員的角度與我們分享他的觀點,這對中國觀眾來說是一個很好的機會,嗯,謝謝詹特先生,今天的視頻就到這裏,再見,謝謝,非常感謝您給我這個機會,好嗎
隊長首次連線印度著名公知賈揚特!尖銳問題直球對決!解開印度殘酷真實一麵!精彩對談!First connection with Indian expert Jayant!
隊長來了 2025年5月27日
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hello Mr jant welcome to the channel uh many Chinese audience are impressed with you they think you are a rational observer among India scholars and your criticism of problems is based on a pragmatic attitude so which is similar to the Chinese people today we will discuss some issues and the first question
Jayant
So um thanks for having me and um it seems to me that you are quite correct in your assessment that uh India lost in the current war with Pakistan uh it seems to me uh based on what I have read or seen so far that Pakistan was able to shoot down five Indian fighter jets within a few hours of the start of the fight if that is true that should be uh a world record of sorts uh because I don't think any in any war has um five fighter jets been shot down in a period of in such a short period now I think it is easy to blame Modi for brainwashing Indians uh the problem is that Indians are prepared to be brainwashed they like to be brainwashed they they want to live under self delusions and selfdeception they like to fool themselves um and uh um in in a in a view of grandiosity of their own society and their own culture so the problem starts with Indians themselves it is uh indeed a problem with Modi modi is a psychopath modi is a low IQ street goon who has got elevated into a position of power because of Indian democracy democracy at a federal level is antimarritocratic and it leads to masses voting for um the biggest demagogue possible into position of power and that is what Modi is modi has no mind of his own he's merely doing what the people of India want him to do which is demagoguery and to enable self delusion and selfdeception among uh Indians okay the
second question
well so if I had to advise the Chinese government on how to do deal with India um really they have to understand that goodwill does not work on India India has no friends in the neighborhood there's Not one country which has a friendly relationship with India india has problems with Pakistan india has problems with China it has problems with Bangladesh it has problem with Maldives it has problem with SriLanka it has problems with Myanmar so it fights with everyone it wants to bully any country that is uh in a weaker situation and in fact in if I read the history right China India wanted to bully China when China was for facing civil issues in the 50s and 60s so India will bully anyone it wants to it does not understand the concept of goodwill and friendship and the concept of sitting sitting down to sort out problems now there are problems between India and China there are border problems and I think they should be it should be possible to sit down peacefully and sort those out the reason is very simple that a lot of area that is disputed between India and China are areas which were historically no man's land which meant that they were parts of no country they were areas which were not owned by any country and as a result uh you have no other option but to sit down and negotiate but Indian approaches that India will not give an inch of its land to China or Pakistan now it does not work when you don't even know who owns what in that area now um can you help India with education and industrialization no it does not work u the the issue is that as an in as an Indian passport holder one can walk into the Chinese embassy in New Delhi and get a visa right away to come to China if you want to go to India tomorrow you cannot go to India because you will not be given a visa and if you want a special status visa to go to India wherever you will go a whole team of police will come and go and interrogate the people you are going to visit in India so that is how controlled India is so India does not want friendship indian government does not want friendship because Indian government does not want Indians to develop a positive opinion of China now I have been coming to China for the last 18 years now and I have been to smaller cities smaller towns in China um Indian government does not want Indians to experience how rapidly China has changed and developed has become such a nicer place to live in so India does not want that want Indians to face that experience um now so u uh you know I'm I'm I wouldn't be surprised if China wants to equip Pakistan uh militarily to make sure that there's a proxy war continues between Pakistan and India to to keep China away from a direct war with India um so u so unfortunately you know I don't have a solution to the problem but the problem is that there is no solution to this problem indians do not want peace and in fact it's the same thing with Pakistanis as well they do not want peace they uh enjoy fighting they enjoy the rush the mental rush the adrenaline rush they get from hating other people so these people will always fight with you you have no other option now if you if China participated in destabilizing India the problem is that um a destabilized India will be worse for India than a a stable chaotic India because at least you can control refugee inflow into China what can you do if tomorrow a 100 million people try to cross the border from India to China if India falls apart it will be a crisis for China now I know you you may have a great armed forces but great armed forces only work as long as you are fighting with armed forces if you have a 100 million people trying to cross the border you are in deep trouble so my guess is that Chinese government should want to um uh not destabilize India but at the same time make sure that the borders are properly protected because uh once the borders are once people can start crossing in and India will get destabilized india will fall apart into smaller countries india will have a lot of problems in the future so China has to protect itself rather than participate in creating more of the same problems yeah okay the
next question
foreign so um I initially used two words self delusion and selfdeception that Indians suffer from um and uh I think people should really study that subject because India is a neighboring country and you have to understand how the minds of Indians work these are extraordinarily deluded people they are it is very badly deceived people and that is what the nature of existence of Indians is so there's no running away from that uh yes it is true that Indians really think that Pakistan won the recent war uh that India was able to devastate Pakistan on the new television channels of Pakistan uh of of India there was news about India taking over cities in Pakistan that they had destroyed everything to do with Pakistan and they were about to take over the whole country when India was actually badly losing the war so it is very easy to uh deceive Indians because they are prepared for selfdeception and they want to be deluded now so they want to believe that India is a more industrialized country india is a more um um is a better place to be in and that Chinese have no freedom so they have they and they don't want to believe anything else in fact if you look at the posting of um the prime minister Modi over the last on Twitter or other social media you will see that he's talking about how India has exceeded Japan in GDP now that is um Japan is a first world developed country u India is a third world hell hole there is no comparison japan is among the top four or five countries in the world india is among the top 10 or 15 countries in the world uh but Indians want to be fooled um so um so yeah it is indeed true that Indians want to believe that they are stronger and more powerful than China is um u and and you can do nothing about it um here is the issue for me uh as if if I lived in India and I no longer live in India i do visit India quite often if I lived in India my biggest enemy would be the government of India and why is that um the reason is that um u whenever I encounter a government servant in India there's only one thing that matters and that one thing is bribe and you have to experience it to believe it when you encounter a government servant in in India his only interest is in how much bribe he can get out of you and if you are a woman maybe sexual favors as well so that is the ma that is the minds of the Indian government people they are predatory they want to go after you uh the Indian police is u is is is worse than criminals so I want to see my Indian government as my biggest enemy and anyone who harms the Indian government is my friend by uh by definition so in my my point of view for a sane Indian a defeat of India in the in the hands of Pakistan was a win for a sane Indians because his enemy which is the Indian government which does not think about India at all who does not care about Indians was defeated now um what can you do about the chaos and the corruption and dirty India hey it will get worse with time um India is going to continue to get worse and I tell you the envy Indians will face about China will continue to increase and the reason is that India will continue to worsen and at least in the foreseeable future I see China continuing to improve and this will create a huge amount of envy now um in in in China it uh the the here's the is a very important issue at least in
the western countries there's something called the ten commandments which means that when you grow up um your society teaches you to think in terms of dos and don'ts don't do this don't don't covet women of other people or don't be envious don't give false um evidence in court those kind of things in India there is no concept of those values
which means that when people are envious that envy is unconstrained it has there's no restrain on that uh envy and they can go completely berserk about it So Indian envy will continue to increase going forward because they don't uh because India will continue to get worse with time the law and order is now at least in my province of Madhya Pradesh and I have traveled all over the country in my province of Madhya Pradesh law and order is 100% in the in under the control of the mafia so mafia uses the police he calls up the head of the police and say hey go and get rid of this guy kill this guy so that is how bad the law and order situation in that country so yes the situation will continue to worsen and China can do nothing about it so u the the only reason u Hindus in India which is like 80 to 85% of the population support Israel is because um because Palestinians are Muslim sorry Israel because the ind these Hindus are anti-Muslim so u that is the sole purpose behind their motivation to support Israel now I tell you I am in favor of Israel i think Israel has to do what it is doing because it has not been able to sort out the Palestinian problem and Palestinian are so um indoctrinated uh in a way that no Muslim country around Palestine wants to accept Palestinian refugees but having said that the reason Indians support the war between by Israel against Palestinians is because of their anti-Muslim mentality and there is this increasing anti-Muslim hysteria developing in India and that will come to hurt India very badly eventually because they are close to 200 million Muslims in the country you can you can't really uh de make them foreigners within when they are such a big population they are a major minority and there's nothing that can be done indians should love not to hate uh Muslims but unfortunately right from the very top of the politicians they all want Indians to learn to hate Muslims so unfortunately uh there is no way out of this thing uh India will support Israel for a wrong reason again because it is anti-Muslim okay so we have uh
seven question here uh just four and the next no no problem okay well um um so um firstly any kind of immigrants is a big problem for the host country if you have a small number of immigrants in any society they create problems because they fail to assimilate it takes many generations for for uh for people to assimilate at best but most people do simply do not assimilate uh unfortunately they are ghettos ghettos are pe areas where uh immigrants um conglomerate they they get together in those areas and live together and work together um there are ghettos of immigrants in the US Canada Australia New Zealand UK for generations now so these people refuse to get assimilated particularly the people from the third world and the reason is that the third world countries are hellholds because of the kind of people they have in those third world countries so you have to be very careful bringing in immigrants from South Asia subsaharan Africa or even from Latin America because these are the people who created the hellholds that they are they left behind and they have now arrived into the western countries they will not assimilate and they will convert the western society into third world countries so um so you are 100% correct indians will not assimilate but it's not just about Indians most people most immigrants will not assimilate into the West mostimmigrants from the third world countries and 90% of immigrants who come to the Western world today are from the third world so unfortunately there's a huge problem with immigration uh in the Western world and I guarantee you this will destroy the Western society and I feel very sad for America i live in America i love that country but unfortunately and it's a great country it's it's it's by in my view the best country on the planet but unfortunately within the next two decades it will get destroyed because of third world people and this is where I always congratulate Far East Asian countries uh Korea Japan China and Taiwan Hong Kong and Singapore for not bringing in immigrants because these countries are completely closed for for for immigrants if you come as a refugee to China or to Singapore you get into serious trouble whereas if you come as a refugee to the United Kingdom or Canada they welcome you they come and hug you they give you a lot of money they give you five star hotels they've give you uh all that you want so um one great thing Far East Asian countries have done is that they do not accept people from the third world so um I have spent a lot of time in China recently and I meet a lot of young Chinese people i uh and Chinese are very worried about the future there is an economic problem in China there is unemployment in China uh but here is the issue um always it is the smart people the intelligent people who are worried about the future people who are not very intelligent do not care they don't worry about the future so the the thing is that irrespective of what happens to China Chinese will always be paranoid so is the case with western people western people are paranoid because they are intelligent smart people and intelligent smart people worry about the future as a re as a result they are always paranoid that said China does have an economic problem uh and I I when you ask whether China is the Japan of 1980s or '9s or the US of 1930s my mind my experience what I have seen in China and I'm talking about months of traveling in China over the over this year uh my view is that China is not the Japan of 1980s China is very likely the US of 1930s China in my view will continue to grow and continue to improve because firstly I see virtually no civil conflicts in China um I see a government that works reasonably well and I I see at least as a foreigner I see a social stability which tells me that China will continue to grow now yes the current tariff war will be a problem for China because China supplies uh depending on how you calculate anything between 10 to 20% of its exports to the USA uh it I think directly supplies 10% of its exports to the USA and 10% of its exports to the USA via Mexico Hong Kong or other countries so China will suffer if the tariff war continues but um but I really really hope that China and the US somehow um uh learn to work together i love both these countries i feel great in the US living in the US it's a lovely country with lovely people and I have similar experiences in China these are both rational people and both people who have commonality of values i think they should learn to work together rather than fight with each other i don't see a war ever happening between China and the US because both are rational people but at the same time I hope they learn to work together because these are the two countries that can that can improve each other by working together but here is the problem governments become scared it is not about the people after a certain level governments become scared of what is happening in the economies and societies of other countries and I don't understand that those nuances about the governments of chi government of China or the government of the USA so I really hope that people wake up to learn to like each other here is the issue um in the United States when I tell my friend about China they roll their eyes they don't believe me they don't believe that China has improved so much similarly I'm told when I talk with Chinese in China what they think about the US they they are worried about is speaking good about the United States because there is this social and peer pressure not to speak too positively about the US so I hope the two people start open up their minds and understand that they are more alike each other rather than different from each others and these two countries can work very well in fact when I drive around China and I was driving around last week in China um and when I drive around in China I go to new places and I my mind sometimes thinks I am in the USA because the roads are like the USA the cars are beautiful the the the new places I go to are lovely so um I I think China is becoming something that is a combination of the US and Japan um so because Japan does not have wide roads japan is not all that big a country so I see China more like the USA of 1930s but again you
have to be very careful because there is something called a term called growth panic and uh and when societies change it they create a lot of internal stresses and things can blow up at any point of time so uh people have to be very careful governments have to be very careful that they continue this economic improvement of China um my dad used to run uh one of the most important printing presses in central province of India uh in the city called Bopal uh which is the capital city of Madhya Pradesh whose population was about 120 million people which by itself would be the biggest country in European Union so uh my dad ran a printing press there and uh I used to work with him from uh very early times i think I was four five years old when I was already working with him the people who came to my dad's printing press were all politicians so I have known these people very closely um also um I was able to uh go to a Catholic school and u fortunately for uh several reasons I was able to um develop an independent way of thinking and I think one of the key reason is my dad because he ran his own business he ran a printing press and when you run a business you have to be u you have to understand causality you have to understand feedback you cannot fool yourself i can't fool myself thinking that hey I'm running a business i'm becoming a billionaire no if your company is losing money you are going to go bankrupt so uh because that objectivity was inculcated in me because of working with my dad and my dad was among the most honest people I have ever ever met in my life so so that taught me to think independently because again it's a country where I have not encountered
another honest person so um I think that helped create an independent thinking in me but then I went to live in the United Kingdom and Canada and I tell you these are people who speak who have a lot of virtues who speak the truth and who who are tolerant who are compassionate who want to help other people so um I was able to improve on a lot of my ways of thinking once I started living in in the UK and then in Canada great uh okay we are glad to invite Mr jant to share his views with us from the perspective of a professional observer of India a very good opportunity for Chinese audience uh thank you uh Mr jant that's all for today's uh video goodbye thank you thank you very much for the opportunity okay