Several themes emerged: The clash betw/ individualism (West) and collectivism (East)
Dichotomy of Western and Eastern Thinking: The text suggests a fundamental contrast between Western and Eastern ways of thinking, particularly in terms of individualism and collectivism.
The concepts of "賽先生" (exploration and conquest) and "德先生" (compromise and cooperation) symbolize different aspects of Western civilization, with the former representing expansion and the latter symbolizing compromise mechanisms.
The clash between individualism and collectivism: The idea that Western development is not solely due to the existence of the two aforementioned concepts but is dependent on the appropriate application and allocation of resources.
Misinterpretation of concepts: The misinterpretation and elevation of certain Western ideals by the Chinese elite, leading to a misunderstanding of the fundamental differences between Western and Eastern ideologies.
The concept of absolute authority: The text discusses the dangers of the misappropriation of authority and the consequences of the absolute authority of human-made principles, as opposed to the more harmonious and cohesive authority derived from a higher power or nature.
The significance of culture and its impact on political and societal ideologies.
The implications of the ongoing struggle between unity and exploration, and the potential consequences of the shift from external expansion to internal conflicts and divisions.
These themes collectively suggest an exploration of the dynamics between different cultural ideologies, the implications of power structures, and the misinterpretation of fundamental concepts, leading to potential societal conflicts and challenges.
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Credits dued to The sources of my inspiration for the post above, are as follows.
• 舊思維，新文化 - stonebench - ♂ 
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• 還是要思考這個大一統思維是否窒息民主和科學。 - Dayoufan - ♂ (177 bytes) (11 reads) 11/01/2023 13:04:27
• 這個俺同意一半。新文化運動時確實需要考慮保留傳統會不會影響變革的速度。 - stonebench - ♂ (125 bytes) (1 reads) 11/01/2023 20:18:38
• 在政治上，如果沒有向外獲利空間，開拓意識就必然內轉～～： 西方現有製度的成功很大程度是大航海以來以極低成本占有了大量資源 - 方外居士 - ♂ (0 bytes) (4 reads) 11/01/2023 14:24:06
• 這使得外向開拓獲利而不是內卷成為可能。現在的西方仍然在收獲這個紅利，隻是方式變了。 - 方外居士 - ♂ (0 bytes) (3 reads) 11/01/2023 14:27:46
• 今後這個製度能否繼續下去極大地取決於能否繼續獲得新的低成本資源。比如技術的進步讓以前的廢物變成寶貝。 - 方外居士 - ♂ (0 bytes) (2 reads) 11/01/2023 15:11:19
• 完全同意。事實上西方崛起就是源於大航海後，發現並占領了殖民地。 - 為人父 - ♂ (51 bytes) (3 reads) 11/01/2023 19:18:29
• 二元對立的思維=(賽先生開拓創收+ 德先生妥協機製後台分利) - TJKCB - ♀ (846 bytes) (25 reads) 11/01/2023 15:05:05
• 有象斯有對，對必反其為，有反斯有仇，仇必和而解 - TJKCB - ♀ (16333 bytes) (20 reads) 11/01/2023 15:23:04 (2)
• we must expand 德先生妥協機製後台分利Two wheels move along - TJKCB - ♀ (432 bytes) (11 reads) 11/01/2023 15:25:13
• 中文很棒～～ - 盈盈一笑間 - ♀ (0 bytes) (1 reads) 11/01/2023 17:49:26
• 莫非中文不是母語才特別讚中文棒？ - 方外居士 - ♂ (0 bytes) (2 reads) 11/01/2023 18:57:52
• 好像是英文比中文好。 - 盈盈一笑間 - ♀ (0 bytes) (1 reads) 11/01/2023 19:31:21
• 也有同感 - 方外居士 - ♂ (0 bytes) (0 reads) 11/01/2023 20:16:16
• The clash betw/ individualism (West) and collectivism (East) - TJKCB - ♀ (1848 bytes) (18 reads) 11/01/2023 15:37:59 (1)
• 此貼請轉美壇，展開討論。：） - 盈盈一笑間 - ♀ (0 bytes) (2 reads) 11/01/2023 17:50:08
• 對德先生賽先生的新理解 - 盈盈一笑間 - ♀ (0 bytes) (3 reads) 11/01/2023 17:49:03 (1)
• 很有這個原因。但我還是覺得是某種稟性的人才這麽想的。那麽關鍵問題是為什麽這部分人最終在中國勝出，而成為書寫歷史者。 - 中間小謝 - ♂ (354 bytes) (24 reads) 11/01/2023 19:52:48 (1)
• 我相信是因為中國當時恰處於衰微之時，故我下麵說的"分流"之中，小智短見成了主流。如果同樣的歷史際遇出現在唐宋， - 中間小謝 - ♂ (131 bytes) (12 reads) 11/01/2023 20:30:00 (1)
• “人才由於學術”。傳統學術能容許民國這些人的出現，這些人回過身，弄它個斷根，再無人才。。。。這是百年史。 - dhyang_wxc - ♂ (0 bytes) (2 reads) 11/02/2023 08:04:46 (1)
• 楊振寧 梁漱溟 against 民主絕對主義/尺有所短，寸有所長/survival is measured - TJKCB - ♀ (104 bytes) (2 reads) 11/02/2023 09:36:40
• 讚！緊扣內核，簡明意賅。也讚同前麵石教授客觀寬容地看待新文化運動之於中國社會大背景。-：） - 有言 - ♂ (0 bytes) (2 reads) 11/01/2023 21:57:13 (1)
• 是思維的問題。沒有那個思維，巧婦難為無米炊——熱氣哄哄，紅火熊熊，它沒米在裏麵，說什麽好？ - dhyang_wxc - ♂ (179 bytes) (9 reads) 11/02/2023 07:58:01 (2)
• 子曰，不可使知之。君臣父子，各歸其位，不可妄思！ - TJKCB - ♀ (0 bytes) (2 reads) 11/02/2023 09:48:59
• 巧婦=米, why only rice? - TJKCB - ♀ (448 bytes) (4 reads) 11/02/2023 09:57:01
• 大概米最便宜吧，對中國人來說。就像一個隻會送批薩的，告訴中國人吃米不好。你不能像他一樣批評批薩；不能喂給他米吃； - dhyang_wxc - ♂ (345 bytes) (3 reads) 11/02/2023 10:36:01
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? Haha, Thanks 4 sharing here. A very in-depth discussion～ - 盈盈一笑間 - 給 盈盈一笑間 發送悄悄話 盈盈一笑間 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) (2 reads) 11/01/2023 18:01:56 (1)
? The concepts of "賽先生" (exploration and conquest) and "德先生" - 盈盈一笑間 - 給 盈盈一笑間 發送悄悄話 盈盈一笑間 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) (0 reads) 11/01/2023 19:36:21
? (compromise and cooperation) symbolize different aspects - 盈盈一笑間 - 給 盈盈一笑間 發送悄悄話 盈盈一笑間 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) (0 reads) 11/01/2023 19:37:07
? of Western civilization, with the former representing - 盈盈一笑間 - 給 盈盈一笑間 發送悄悄話 盈盈一笑間 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 11/01/2023 19:37:27
? expansion and the latter symbolizing compromise mechanisms. - 盈盈一笑間 - 給 盈盈一笑間 發送悄悄話 盈盈一笑間 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 11/01/2023 19:37:47 (1)
? focus on re-distribution of wealth now.. - TJKCB - 給 TJKCB 發送悄悄話 TJKCB 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 11/02/2023 09:28:10
? 展開說說？：） - 盈盈一笑間 - 給 盈盈一笑間 發送悄悄話 盈盈一笑間 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 11/02/2023 18:48:54 (1)
? Tax higher on wealthest - TJKCB - 給 TJKCB 發送悄悄話 TJKCB 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) (0 reads) 11/02/2023 20:04:23
? a discussion that's pertinent to the current world, US+China - 顫音 - 給 顫音 發送悄悄話 顫音 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) (2 reads) 11/01/2023 20:23:40 (1)
? US-PRC: 有象斯有對，對必反其為，有反斯有仇，仇必和而解 - TJKCB - 給 TJKCB 發送悄悄話 TJKCB 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) (0 reads) 11/02/2023 09:27:05
? I will always lean towards individualism, collectivism often - 顫音 - 給 顫音 發送悄悄話 顫音 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) (2 reads) 11/01/2023 20:24:42
? leads to totalism, recommend Ayn Rand's books - 顫音 - 給 顫音 發送悄悄話 顫音 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) (0 reads) 11/01/2023 20:27:05
? so Put collectivism/individualism in the box of EJUL = equa - TJKCB - 給 TJKCB 發送悄悄話 TJKCB 的博客首頁 (363 bytes) (1 reads) 11/02/2023 12:14:09
? 大一統就是統一在一個人的思維思想之下，始感壓抑但時間長了也能麻木舒適，社會越來越沒有創造力。 - Oona - 給 Oona 發送悄悄話 Oona 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) (7 reads) 11/02/2023 05:36:53 (2)
? 諸子百家發生在大統一之前，以後就沒有以後了：）） - 衛寧 - 給 衛寧 發送悄悄話 衛寧 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) (3 reads) 11/02/2023 08:12:07 (2)
? the truth survives but in the box of humanity ethics - TJKCB - 給 TJKCB 發送悄悄話 TJKCB 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) (0 reads) 11/02/2023 12:12:27
? 我現在已經基本停止這種辯論了，討論也討論不出名堂。我堅決支持個人的選擇和自由，但雞同鴨講的情況太多。任何人都不能被說服。 - 唐宋韻 - 給 唐宋韻 發送悄悄話 唐宋韻 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) (7 reads) 11/02/2023 08:33:11 (2)
? 哈哈 - 7grizzly - 給 7grizzly 發送悄悄話 7grizzly 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) (0 reads) 11/02/2023 09:09:56
? agreed. it's given, born with; however, education is a must - TJKCB - 給 TJKCB 發送悄悄話 TJKCB 的博客首頁 (139 bytes) (1 reads) 11/02/2023 09:25:12
? Individualism is the essential force of human advancement. - 方外居士 - 給 方外居士 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 11/02/2023 09:52:27
? Collectivism is a must to achieve the goal of individualism - 方外居士 - 給 方外居士 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 11/02/2023 09:54:15
? as now a days, a single person cannot produce all he needs. - 方外居士 - 給 方外居士 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 11/02/2023 10:05:02
? collectivism should serve the goal of individualism. - 方外居士 - 給 方外居士 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) (2 reads) 11/02/2023 10:08:46
? Put collectivism/individualism in the box of EJUL - TJKCB - 給 TJKCB 發送悄悄話 TJKCB 的博客首頁 (603 bytes) (8 reads) 11/02/2023 12:09:31
? Make sense. But who makes such a law that offer justice? - 方外居士 - 給 方外居士 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) (2 reads) 11/02/2023 12:25:36 (1)
? good point: EJUL is an involving target up to you and me - TJKCB - 給 TJKCB 發送悄悄話 TJKCB 的博客首頁 (228 bytes) (1 reads) 11/02/2023 12:31:21
? collectivism+individualism=EJUL - TJKCB - 給 TJKCB 發送悄悄話 TJKCB 的博客首頁 (227 bytes) (2 reads) 11/02/2023 12:58:10 (1)
? what does EJUL stand for? - 盈盈一笑間 - 給 盈盈一笑間 發送悄悄話 盈盈一笑間 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 11/02/2023 18:50:07 (1)
? EJUL = equal justice under law - TJKCB - 給 TJKCB 發送悄悄話 TJKCB 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) (0 reads) 11/02/2023 20:03:18