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羊群效應理論（The Effect of Sheep Flock），也稱羊群行為（Herd Behavior）羊群心理 herd instinct: 從眾效應或樂隊花車效應（Bandwagon effect）是指人們受到多數人一致性思想或行動的影響，而跟從大眾的思想或行為，常被稱為「羊群效應」。 也稱“跟風效應”，英文中將其描述為：TheGreater-fool-Game，意為“下家都是比你更大的傻瓜”。
“羊群效應”也叫“從眾效應”：是個人的觀念或行為由於真實的或想像的群體的影響或壓力，而向與多數人相一致的方向變化的現象。表現為對特定的或臨時的情境中的優勢觀念和行為方式的采納（隨潮）表現為對長期性的占優勢地位的觀念和行為方式的接受（順應風俗習慣）。人們會追隨大眾所同意的，將自己的意見默認否定，且不會主觀上思考事件的意義. 羊
群是一種很散亂的組織，平時在一起也是盲目地左衝右撞，但一旦有一隻頭羊動起來，其他的羊也會不假思索地一哄而上，全然不顧前麵可能有狼或者不遠處有更好的草。因此，“羊群效應”就是比喻人都有一種從眾心理，從眾心理很容易導致盲從，而盲從往往會陷入騙局或遭到失敗。
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You're 納稅人 - I can see your point and your frustration - that's what I intended to say in the post -
That's true - Science was conducted by elites, who used their own money. Now, science is a job - some scientists don't think much about tax payers' benefit. My point was to hope the public start to 解讀屠呦呦施一公, like science - that's really 中國崛起. Scientists need to take the responsibility to explain to tax payers - Whatever taken will be getting back to tax payers in what way - let the public trust scientists.
In reality, a country like China size, the government should never try to mobilize all to get a Nobel Prize, to do basic research with massive money - it's impossible. Let the nature takes course: If you're Nobel material, you'll pan out regardless. Some leaders don't realize how much power they have - I'd pray for their wisdom to lead the public to a productive journey 中國崛起.
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納稅人解讀屠呦呦施一公科學家學會解讀納稅人才是中國崛起
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納稅人學會解讀科學家, 科學家學會解讀納稅人才是中國崛起
你問一百個納稅人，你會得到一百不同的解讀。你拿納稅人的錢，你得回答你是怎麽用納稅人的錢。官，科學，教學，都一樣。什麽是民主？什麽是法治？這就是：你拿納稅人的錢，你得回答你是怎麽用納稅人的錢。我們很多人拿納稅人的錢並不想回答！
“回答你？你夠格嗎？你懂科學？”
“夠格”由誰定義? 納稅人? 拿納稅人錢的人?
五個人的解讀施一公 -“牢騷太盛?”－很多人承受不了啦！你是哪一個解讀？要民主的解讀? 還是要法治的解讀？
你要民主法治的解讀?
你得聽施一公對你的解讀的解讀 - 施一公的回答。
你拿納稅人的錢，陳楷翰:”拍馬還是廣告甚至臭罵都是可以接受的，那是小節，”“科學家是解決問題和建立思想來的，不是摟錢來的，也不是貧嘴來的，不是那些迅速被世界淘汰掉的所謂“基礎研究”，更不是比賽花錢的，隻要拿出的東西遠大於消耗的東西，大家都會尊重你的存在，容忍你的毛病，這才是大節，不然就是職業混混，本來中國大陸的傳統就是落井下石+錦上添花的，沒法指望世態如何，實誠話，說過別記在心上，見諒。”(本文引用地址：http://blog.sciencenet.cn/blog-561693-929419.html 此文來自科學網陳楷翰博客，轉載請注明出處。)
謝力: “錢學森在1987年的10月，也就是在所謂清華大學對嚴新氣功的證實以後的3個月，在給後來與諾獎“擦肩而過”的餘亞綱回信中說的太對：“科學要從事實出發，並且最終要接受事實的檢驗”。嗯，將“事實”換成“群眾”，那就是從勝利走向勝利的不二法寶。對諾獎的討論，就是“從群眾中來，到群眾中去”，這叫理論自信。”(本文引用地址：http://blog.sciencenet.cn/blog-669170-929423.html 此文來自科學網謝力博客，轉載請注明出處。)
牢騷太盛?民主？法治？承受接受事實的解讀?
屠呦呦施一公解讀納稅人, 納稅人解讀屠呦呦施一公: 這種互動有利科學大環境。If you can't explain your science in plain language, so simple that laymen can understand - you don't know your science at all. You can't live in an ivory tower if you use the money from tax payers - it's your responsibility to get back to those tax payers. Vice versa - you can't complain if as tax payers you don't ask about science.
科學家學會解讀納稅人納稅人解讀科學家, －才是中國崛起, 才不是被牽著鼻子走。
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- 刪除回複[15]文克玲
- 12樓：而且國家也給了這些人最高榮譽稱號，就是不拿一分錢的經費，他們也有義務做出傑出的工作。
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因果顛倒！傑出工作在先，榮譽稱號在後！
- 刪除回複[14]文克玲
- 請博主做個示範，證明你不是什麽“職業混混”之類。
- 博主回複(2015-10-30 12:55)：Thanks for your comment. It's cited from 陳楷翰:”引用地址：http://blog.sciencenet.cn/blog-561693-929419.html 此文來自科學網陳楷翰博客". If you asked about my opinion, you read about http://blog.sciencenet.cn/blog-847277-740998.html
本文引用地址：http://blog.sciencenet.cn/blog-847277-740998.html 此文來自科學網
- 刪除回複[13]wangqinling
- 接著8樓說的，既然科研是貴族項目，就不要鼓勵全民來玩，就讓貴族去玩嘛。也不要用納稅人的錢欽造貴族嘛。
- 博主回複(2015-10-30 13:07)：Science was conducted by elites, who used their own money. Now, science is a job - some science elites don't think much about tax payers' benefit.
- 刪除回複[12]高召順
- 不僅是錢的問題，而且國家也給了這些人最高榮譽稱號，就是不拿一分錢的經費，他們也有義務做出傑出的工作。就像勞模、英雄這些稱號一樣，既然擁有這些稱號，就不能和平常人一樣。
- 博主回複(2015-10-30 13:15)：That's true - Science was conducted by elites, who used their own money. Now, science is a job - some scientists don't think much about tax payers' benefit. My point was to hope the public start to 解讀屠呦呦施一公, like science - that's really 中國崛起. Scientists need to take the responsibility to explain to tax payers - Whatever taken will be getting back to tax payers in what way - let the public trust scientists.
- 刪除回複[11]侯成亞
- 還是毛主席說得對：思想政治上的路線正確與否，是決定一切的。
思想一旦走上了歪門邪道，神仙也沒辦法！ - 博主回複(2015-10-30 13:20)：You're 納稅人 - I can see your point. That's true - Science was conducted by elites, who used their own money. Now, science is a job - some scientists don't think much about tax payers' benefit. My point was to hope the public start to 解讀屠呦呦施一公, like science - that's really 中國崛起. Scientists need to take the responsibility to explain to tax payers - Whatever taken will be getting back to tax payers in what way - let the public trust scientists.
- 刪除回複[10]biofans
- 讀了半天，不知題目是啥意思。
- 博主回複(2015-10-30 13:10)：Sorry. Can you make it better? Here is my clarification: Science was conducted by elites, who used their own money. Now, science is a job - some scientists don't think much about tax payers' benefit. My point was to hope the public start to 解讀屠呦呦施一公, like science - that's really 中國崛起.
- 刪除回複[9]侯成亞
- 49年建國，50年全國解放，到處是爛攤子，真正的一窮二白，兩手空空，到72年，隻有短短的22年，出了青蒿素，還有在那前後的胰島素、兩彈一星，等等。從“科學的春天”到現在已近漫漫的40年了，條件上可以說一個地下，一個天上。可前後兩相比較，情況究竟如何 呢? 再弄不出重大創新成果，天理不容！
- 博主回複(2015-10-30 13:21)：You're 納稅人 - I can see your point and your frustration - that's what I intended to say in the post -
That's true - Science was conducted by elites, who used their own money. Now, science is a job - some scientists don't think much about tax payers' benefit. My point was to hope the public start to 解讀屠呦呦施一公, like science - that's really 中國崛起. Scientists need to take the responsibility to explain to tax payers - Whatever taken will be getting back to tax payers in what way - let the public trust scientists.
- 刪除回複[8]範丁丁
- 科學工作對於一個國家就像做長線投資和政府項目，看不到明顯的成果，確是必須的。納稅人是什麽人？可不像投資人那麽好定義。在我看來不是普通百姓。大部分人的見識有限，思維狹隘，見識短淺。所以早期的科學成了貴族項目。
- 博主回複(2015-10-30 13:18)："納稅人是什麽人？可不像投資人那麽好定義。在我看來不是普通百姓." That's quite bizzar - anyone who pays tax is 納稅人 (including sale tax) -
That's true - Science was conducted by elites, who used their own money. Now, science is a job - some scientists don't think much about tax payers' benefit. My point was to hope the public start to 解讀屠呦呦施一公, like science - that's really 中國崛起. Scientists need to take the responsibility to explain to tax payers - Whatever taken will be getting back to tax payers in what way - let the public trust scientists.
- 刪除回複[7]鄒謀炎
- 科學家也是納稅人!
別人不敢說,但屠呦呦是納稅人,是有大貢獻的納稅人.她的探索精神和獻身精神是應該肯定的,是科技人員該學的.
請我們的同胞更多地尊重自己同胞的勞動.想想吧,她的勞動要得到承認有多不容易! - 博主回複(2015-10-30 13:24)：科學家也是納稅人! That's true, but how much tax a scientist pay? How much a scientist use? That proportion takes the obligation! If a scientist use more than he pays - that carry the obligation!
You're 納稅人 - I can see your point and your frustration - that's what I intended to say in the post -
That's true - Science was conducted by elites, who used their own money. Now, science is a job - some scientists don't think much about tax payers' benefit. My point was to hope the public start to 解讀屠呦呦施一公, like science - that's really 中國崛起. Scientists need to take the responsibility to explain to tax payers - Whatever taken will be getting back to tax payers in what way - let the public trust scientists.
- 刪除回複[6]loyalSciencefan
- 用納稅人的錢慕取自己的名利，那叫可恥！！！！！！
- 博主回複(2015-10-30 13:26)：That's true, but how much tax does a scientist pay? How much does a scientist use? That proportion takes the obligation! If a scientist uses more than he pays - carrying the obligation!
You're 納稅人 - I can see your point and your frustration - that's what I intended to say in the post -
That's true - Science was conducted by elites, who used their own money. Now, science is a job - some scientists don't think much about tax payers' benefit. My point was to hope the public start to 解讀屠呦呦施一公, like science - that's really 中國崛起. Scientists need to take the responsibility to explain to tax payers - Whatever taken will be getting back to tax payers in what way - let the public trust scientists.
- 刪除回複[5]lichunjie08
- 對，要對得起納稅人，特別是項目多的老師
- 博主回複(2015-10-30 13:12)：That's true - Science was conducted by elites, who used their own money. Now, science is a job - some scientists don't think much about tax payers' benefit. My point was to hope the public start to 解讀屠呦呦施一公, like science - that's really 中國崛起.
- 刪除回複[4]謝強
- 納稅人供養了所謂的科學家，科學家應該有良心，捫心自問，用納稅人的錢究竟做了什麽？
- 博主回複(2015-10-30 13:12)：That's true - Science was conducted by elites, who used their own money. Now, science is a job - some scientists don't think much about tax payers' benefit. My point was to hope the public start to 解讀屠呦呦施一公, like science - that's really 中國崛起.
- 刪除回複[3]wangqinling
- 拿納稅人的錢是要有良心的，要問自己為納稅人做了什麽，而不是將錢當作自己的應得。
- 博主回複(2015-10-30 13:26)：You're 納稅人 - I can see your point and your frustration - that's what I intended to say in the post -
That's true - Science was conducted by elites, who used their own money. Now, science is a job - some scientists don't think much about tax payers' benefit. My point was to hope the public start to 解讀屠呦呦施一公, like science - that's really 中國崛起. Scientists need to take the responsibility to explain to tax payers - Whatever taken will be getting back to tax payers in what way - let the public trust scientists.
- 刪除回複[2]張驥
- 羊群效應不可避免
- 博主回複(2015-10-30 13:33)：You're sharp! Well said! You got my point! 羊群效應理論（The Effect of Sheep Flock），也稱羊群行為（Herd Behavior）羊群心理 herd instinct: 從眾效應或樂隊花車效應（Bandwagon effect）是指人們受到多數人一致性思想或行動的影響，而跟從大眾的思想或行為，常被稱為「羊群效應」。 也稱“跟風效應”，英文中將其描述為：TheGreater-fool-Game，意為“下家都是比你更大的傻瓜”。“羊群效應”也叫“從眾效應”：是個人的觀念或行為由於真實的或想像的群體的影響或壓力，而向與多數人相一致的方向變化的現象。表現為對特定的或臨時的情境中的優勢觀念和行為方式的采納（隨潮）表現為對長期性的占優勢地位的觀念和行為方式的接受（順應風俗習慣）。人們會追隨大眾所同意的，將自己的意見默認否定，且不會主觀上思考事件的意義. 羊群是一種很散亂的組織，平時在一起也是盲目地左衝右撞，但一旦有一隻頭羊動起來，其他的羊也會不假思索地一哄而上，全然不顧前麵可能有狼或者不遠處有更好的草。因此，“羊群效應”就是比喻人都有一種從眾心理，從眾心理很容易導致盲從，而盲從往往會陷入騙局或遭到失敗。
You're 納稅人 - I can see your point and your frustration - that's what I intended to say in the post -
That's true - Science was conducted by elites, who used their own money. Now, science is a job - some scientists don't think much about tax payers' benefit. My point was to hope the public start to 解讀屠呦呦施一公, like science - that's really 中國崛起. Scientists need to take the responsibility to explain to tax payers - Whatever taken will be getting back to tax payers in what way - let the public trust scientists.
