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住院醫生麵試時該問什麽問題? (by Dr. 二餅)

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住院醫生麵試時該問什麽問題? (by Dr. 二餅)
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發表時間:2008-11-29
更新時間:2008-12-01
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發信人: knockingdown (麥地撂M倒), 信區: MedicalCareer
標 題: Re: Re: The role of Chief residents
發信站: BBS 未名空間站 (Fri Nov 28 12:16:05 2008)


我IV時,總是先吃飯,然後再Hospital tour,吃飯時resident就滔滔不絕,我覺得基
本都了解的差不多了。Hospital Tour時覺得再問類似問題有些犯傻,看來還是每個人
都問一遍的好,各人觀點也許不大一樣的,另外就是讓人覺得你感興趣~

我覺得很多人會很感興趣那個小姑娘到底問了些啥,我列一個list,有點長,麻煩您給
看看哈,尤其是哪些問題不大適合問,另外還有哪些問題比較適合問。

What is the call schedule like? Is it home call or hospital call?

Which parts of the program do you like the most?

What is the relationship between residents and faculty?

Do you have time to attend conferences?

Do residents have any difficulty finding jobs?

Would you choose the same program if you could do it all over again?

Do you have time to enjoy yourself outside of your job?

What contact will I have with faculty and how often?

Who teaches – senior resident, attending, both? Do you feel you have the
opportunity to teach as a senior resident?

What are the types of clinical experiences I can expect?

Is it difficult to obtain consults from other services?

Have graduates felt comfortable performing all necessary procedures by the
time they graduate?

What is the patient population like?

How often do social events occur? Any activities of special interest to
residents?

What if there is a problem, will the program stand up for the resident?

How are shifts done? What is their length? Advance from days to evenings to
nights? Time off?

Are there any away electives? Where?

What is the one thing you would improve at this program if you could?

多謝了先!


【 在 diarrhea (二餅) 的大作中提到: 】

The questions during the interview are different. I had one from Beijing
Medical Univ. Whatever she ask or answer the questions, she was extremely
suitable. But most of interviewees don\\\\\\\'t have good questions what I asked \\\\\\
any questions?\\\\\\

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發信人: diarrhea (二餅), 信區: MedicalCareer
標 題: Re: Re: The role of Chief residents
發信站: BBS 未名空間站 (Fri Nov 28 17:15:55 2008)

您這是抄來的吧?

發信人: docrockville (docrockville), 信區: MedicalCareer
標 題: The role of Chief residents
發信站: BBS 未名空間站 (Wed Nov 26 18:27:47 2008)

Always make them happy, because they can be more open to you than faculty.

A chief resident is right now very interested in helping me get prematch at
her program, also in helping me get me chances to shadow at her hospital.

I am a chief resident now. More than 50% of interns and residents make me
unhappy.
--





I am happy to answer. But obviously, you don\\\\\\\'t know internal medicine
resident program at all.


What is the call schedule like? Is it home call or hospital call?
Bad question. Never ask.

Which parts of the program do you like the most?
Great question! Always ask.

What is the relationship between residents and faculty?
Good question but ask using another way.

Do you have time to attend conferences?
Bad question. What conferences? morning report or noon lecture or national
conference?

Do residents have any difficulty finding jobs?
Bad question. When you board certified, jobs are looking for you!

Would you choose the same program if you could do it all over again?
Bad question. Too aggressive.

Do you have time to enjoy yourself outside of your job?
Good question. Ask!

What contact will I have with faculty and how often?
Good question but ask using another way.

Who teaches – senior resident, attending, both? Do you feel you have the
opportunity to teach as a senior resident?

What are the types of clinical experiences I can expect?
Bad question.

Is it difficult to obtain consults from other services?
You don\\\\\\\'t need to ask.

Have graduates felt comfortable performing all necessary procedures by the
time they graduate?
Good question.

What is the patient population like?
Great question! No one asked me this question. It is very important!!!

How often do social events occur? Any activities of special interest to
residents?
Bad question. 3rd yr will tell you.

What if there is a problem, will the program stand up for the resident?
Bad question. Too negative.

How are shifts done? What is their length? Advance from days to evenings to
nights? Time off?
Bad question. You must know before you ask.

Are there any away electives? Where?
Good question. I did in an excellent program.

What is the one thing you would improve at this program if you could?
Good question but ask using another way.
--


Many Chinese residents/interns are short of EQ.
They are excellent about passing USMLE and ABIM.
They work hard.
But they don\\\'t know hospital politics.
Most of them haven\\\'t seen any TV show or movie, haven\\\'t read any American
novel for a long time. When they talk, the taste is just like a cup of pure
water. I mean Many Chinese residents/interns haven\\\'t involved to American
culture.
--

You may ask whatever you want during hospital tour. The 2nd or 3rd residents
answer your questions. Usually you will have your impression about the
program: Are residents happy? PGY3s show you everything!

The questions during the interview are different. I had one from Beijing
Medical Univ. Whatever she ask or answer the questions, she was extremely
suitable. But most of interviewees don\\\'t have good questions what I asked
\\
any questions?\\

If you can convince PD that you may contribute to the program, you don\\\'t
waste your time. One held the database certification, I strongly recommended
to my PD. PD said \\I would definitely put this candidate high in ranking
list.\\

Regarding prematch in Internal Medicine: The more prematch, the worse the
program. If the program is good enough, zero prematch. If you love prematch,
go to Brooklyn. Their interviews are about GC and prematch, but you make
sure you are strong enough (mental and physical).

Regarding 99/99. I suggest my PD focus on 85-95. Most of 99/99 have some
problems on interpersonal skills. Don\\\'t be upset. We have 2-3 99/99s every
year. NO exception!

The key for interview: Show yourself a mature, educated normal person!
--

Everyone gradated from China can pass the USMLE and board. If you persistent
, you will make it. I matched when I graduate 20 years from medical school.
Why did I wait so long (or waste time)? Who gave me GC? Who gave me the
net
? It needs time.

I would change my post to
If you want be a successful physician in USA,
First, you are a business man.
Second, you are good at politics.
Third, you are a qualified physician.


But I don\\\'t agree that情商方麵我們女同學們學起來比較快???

EQ is genetic. You can\\\'t learn, esp you are 30 years old.
I had a \\lecture\\ for Chinese female residents/interns in our program
regarding EQ. They are excellent persons with compassion,enthusiasm
and diligence. They are at least 90/90 plus PhD/MS. But they don\\\'t know
hospital politics and business. We can discuss later.
--



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發信人: diarrhea (二餅), 信區: MedicalCar

eer
標 題: Re: Re: The role of Chief residents
發信站: BBS 未名空間站 (Fri Nov 28 17:15:55 2008)


If you want be a physician in USA,
First, you are a business man.
Second, you are good at politics.
Third, you are a qualified physician.
Pass the board is much easier compared to practice.
You will learn hospital politics when you start your residency. You\'d better
ask 力刀兄 regarding hospital politics. I love his posts.
--

Everyone gradated from China can pass the USMLE and board. If you persistent
, you will make it. I matched when I graduate 20 years from medical school.
Why did I wait so long (or waste time)? Who gave me GC? Who gave me the
net
? It needs time.

I would change my post to
If you want be a successful physician in USA,
First, you are a business man.
Second, you are good at politics.
Third, you are a qualified physician.

But I don\'t agree that情商方麵我們女同學們學起來比較快???
EQ is genetic. You can\'t learn, esp you are 30 years old.
I had a lecture for Chinese female residents/interns in our program
regarding EQ. They are excellent persons with compassion,enthusiasm
and diligence. They are at least 90/90 plus PhD/MS. But they don\'t know
hospital politics and business. We can discuss later.
--


發信人: USMedEdu (US_CMGs), 信區: MedicalCareer
標 題: Re: The role of Chief residents
發信站: BBS 未名空間站 (Sat Nov 29 22:04:38 2008)

才休假回來,匆匆掃了一眼論壇,挑了幾條線看了看。

多謝二餅CHIEF同學繆誇,實在不敢但當俺這糙人可能EQ屬於很低的檔次。網上罵架

惡名遠揚為證。

不過,這是條好線,點出一個極為重要的ISSUE值得很多今年正麵試和已被PRE_MATCHED同

學深思。

關於CMG對美國文化、尤其臨床醫學係統文化的極度缺乏,是我曾提到過的問題,很

高興二餅同學有同感並在此提出並強調大家關注。在這個方麵,CMG幾乎無法,不說

與AMG比,與印度和歐洲FMG也差得太遠太遠,所以,即使很多人有99/99高分、堅實

的科研經曆的能力,也被拒之於住院門外,甚至進去不久被解除合同或拒絕下一年

合同很多時候蓋因為此。

在這個版上,我曾大打出手數次(也反映出我的EQ之低了--但是,俺老了,無所謂了

)與幾個ID,包括最近的兩個ID尤其突出。這類人別說難進去,就是進去甚至出來後
也難過得很。

回來路上,開著車,聽兒子給我讀一本他感興趣的書,發現其中一章的開頭兩段與

二餅CHIEF所談有極為密切的相關。今天太累,俺就不多談,抄書於此,供各位體會:



“...if you ask enough questions, strange as they seem at the time, you
may eventually learn something worthwhile.

The first trick of asking questions is to determine if your question is
a good one. Just because a question has never been asked doesn\'t make it
good. Smart people have been asking questions for quite a few centuries
now, so many of the questions that haven\'t been asked are bound to yield
uninteresting answers.

But if you can question something that people really care about and find
an answer that may surprise them---that is, if you can overturn the
conventional
wisdom---then you may have some luck.”


cited from: Freakonomics-- A rogue Economist explores the hidden side of
everything by Steven D. Levitt and Stephen J. Dubner



恭喜幾位已經被pre-matched的同學,各位節日快樂!


dok


【 在 diarrhea (二餅) 的大作中提到: 】
: Many Chinese residents/interns are short of EQ.
: They are excellent about passing USMLE and ABIM.
: They work hard.
: But they don\'t know hospital politics.
: Most of them haven\'t seen any TV show or movie, haven\'t read any American
: novel for a long time. When they talk, the taste is just like a cup of
pure
: water. I mean Many Chinese residents/interns haven\'t involved to American
: culture.



發信人: knockingdown (麥地撂M倒), 信區: MedicalCareer
標 題: Re: The role of Chief residents
發信站: BBS 未名空間站 (Sat Nov 29 22:51:43 2008)

這個最難了,問的問題不能太淺顯,一句話回答完了,顯得很傻,回答者也不過癮。

不能太不靠譜,讓回答著覺著是在和外星人說話 何止麵試,任何時候都是如此的。


【 在 USMedEdu (US_CMGs) 的大作中提到: 】

The first trick of asking questions is to determine if your question is
a good one.



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發信人: acne (麥地米蟲), 信區: MedicalCareer
標 題: Re: The role of Chief residents
發信站: BBS 未名空間站 (Sat Nov 29 23:18:07 2008)

前兩條都能學的,慢慢來
等你上臨床就知道了,什麽樣的人都有,有的人隻有前兩條,沒有第三條,其實更可怕

【 在 drhedgehog (麥地小刺_) 的大作中提到: 】
: 如果我隻符合第三條,再加上一條”a good person with compassion,enthusiasm
and
: diligence,我能在美國成為一個好醫生嗎?(我曾經毫不猶豫地認為我能;現在
看了
: 此貼,我得好好思考一下了。。。)
: 謝謝你為我們這些還在門外掙紮的CMGs做的一切!你跟老刀一樣讓我敬佩!
: better



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發信人: diarrhea (二餅), 信區: MedicalCareer
標 題: Re: Re: Re: The role of Chief residents
發信站: BBS 未名空間站 (Sat Nov 29 23:24:41 2008)

To knockingdown

What is the relationship between residents and faculty?
Good question but ask using another way.

To what extent are faculty involved in teaching? and how?

You can ask PGY2 or PGY3 this way, but never ask PD. May be: Are teaching
attendings approachable?



What is the one thing you would improve at this program if you could?
Good question but ask using another way.

Is there anything that you feel can be improved through your own effort?

What kind of change will you expect in next three years?
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發信人: diarrhea (二餅), 信區: MedicalCareer
標 題: Re: Re: Re: The role of Chief residents
發信站: BBS 未名空間站 (Sun Nov 30 00:03:03 2008)

網上罵架屬於耿直.

CMG對美國文化、尤其臨床醫學係統文化的缺乏:

When they ask questions about the program, you immediately know this
candidate never had American clinical experience. But you may find
observership 6 month in his/her CV.

English. I have many CMG candidates (>95,>95). Their English are so so.
Accent is not a big problem, esp in big NY area. The problems are: Use short
and clear sentences; Questions and answers based on culture; and how to
show your strong point using clear and simple English.

Body language. Another big problem. Body language based on your confidence,
experience and your reading. You can learn from movie,TV, daily life.
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發信人: benpu (麥地大奔), 信區: MedicalCareer
標 題: Re: Re: Re: Re: The role of Chief residents
發信站: BBS 未名空間站 (Sun Nov 30 01:00:49 2008)

knock:

I would suggest you to rephrase the Q in this way if asking PD:

into which direction you\'d like to push your program?

or: which part of program will you emphasize the most in next couple years?

actually similar to the Q where will you see yourself in 5 yrs?

I would suggest you guys read through the most common IV Qs such as the
one
Snowflake posted several weeks ago. Some of them can make good Q for PD
or
programs as well.
================================================================
to Diarrhea: thanks for your input. This IS the weakest link of CMG, and
I am happy to see the improvement under instructions from kind ppl like
you.
================================================================
to Acne, you are smart :-) the one who has 1+2 but no 3 is the worst
scenario for sure, but he might be a good leader instead of a good physician

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發信人: Wangking (pig), 信區: MedicalCareer
標 題: Re: The role of Chief residents
發信站: BBS 未名空間站 (Sun Nov 30 23:18:30 2008)


【 在 diarrhea (二餅) 的大作中提到: 】
: Many Chinese residents/interns are short of EQ.
: They are excellent about passing USMLE and ABIM.
: They work hard.
: But they don\'t know hospital politics.
: Most of them haven\'t seen any TV show or movie, haven\'t read any American
: novel for a long time. When they talk, the taste is just like a cup of
pure
: water. I mean Many Chinese residents/interns haven\'t involved to American
: culture.


Very good point.

I just realized the issue, and I am trying very hard to change. Last month,
my chief and one of attending asked me to have dinner with them. I didn’t
hesitant to accept the two invitations. Now I am trying to understand
football and watch at least two popular movies every month, and brief read
newspapers daily.
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