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Slowly I Open My Eyes in the Rain I can hear you now walking gingerly among the nameless trees of autumn touching the wet leaves of memory drinking the colors of remembrance & the longing-in-the-heart Without the rain I think I can still (if I try hard) smell your small happiness, not measured artificially, nor with your own obvious acknowledgement Listening to the rain my soul takes on a voice making me believe everything will be alright from now on, like this quiet falling Nothing is lost Nothing gained ... this other voice : So is life So is death So is love and everything else we want to name :: nov. 2005 [art by Adi Da]
save!
save first!
:)
that is, what we want to learn must seduce us, and we it....
this metaphor is not new....i read many times in poetry....
[oh, hey, did you also have problems posting?? sometimes i had to try more than once....]
Really??
:))
true!
:))
Knowledge is erotic!
:))
YY你說的完全正確。再細讀你的文字，覺得很深刻，我會感覺ＰＯＷＥＲＦＵＬ。是因為我感覺很有力量，其力量來自你的“知識”。。。
但是就像我說的，每個人說的話都是對的。因為概念隻是概念而已，一個人的Personality最好和NATURE不相抵觸為好，是嗎？我覺得我們這裏每個人都很NATURE，說的話也很NATURE，開的“玩笑”更NATURE ：）難道不是嗎？
喜歡開玩笑因為喜歡笑，喜歡笑很NATURE，是不是？說到生命，比如嬰兒，健康的小寶寶多比較愛笑，很NATURE。。。所以米勒的智慧李敖的智慧都有推翻“腐朽”追求人的“健康”。。。
請原諒我多思，說著說著又扯遠了:))
Enjoying joking belongs to Personality, i guess so :)
你的“/\”和“\/”很能解釋詩歌中男孩女孩的"本性"，看樣子作舟用 "fighting" 和 "womb" 兩詞不是偶然:))
At the end of every poem, mother smiles
Once a boy, always a boy!
There is no use in stopping him
From fighting for the worthless prize
Maybe her daughter is somewhat
Wiser, slowly turning
Her gaze from the cesspool
With sugar glaze & content
To open her womb for another
Countryless child
(希望你不要介意我本喜歡開玩笑的本性Nature:)
其實我從一個人的文字和詩歌裏已強烈感覺到“雙重個性”，比如在我們寫一些“智慧”的文字時，我確實感覺不到我們性別的分別。。。我想或許詩歌也是，如果一首完全跳出“我”的詩歌，我們便不會去辨別是男性還是女性寫的詩歌，感覺的會是很多人的共鳴，比如作舟的一些詩歌，還有影雲你介紹的RUMI的詩，Archibald MacLeish的“Ars Poetica”等等都是如此，所以我很同意你所說的“藝術，智慧，靈魂，生命。。。無性別之分 。。。。;)”
一點一點，我更理解了e e cummings所說：
-luckily for us,a mountain is a mammal. The plusorminus movie to end moving,the strictly scientific parlourgame of real unreality,the tyranny conceived in misconception and dedicated to the proposition that every man is a woman and any woman is a king,hasn't a wheel to stand on. What their synthetic not to mention transparent majesty, mrsandmr collective foetus,would improbably call a ghost is walking. He isn't a undream of anaesthetized impersons, or a cosmic comfortstation,or a transcedentally sterilized lookiesoundiefeelietastiesmellie. He is a healthily complex,a naturally homogenous,citizen of immorality. The now of his each pitying free imperfect gesture,his any birth of breathing,insults perfected inframortally milleniums of slavishness. He is a little more than everything,he is democracy;he is alive:he is ourselves.
再讀這首詩歌，發現詩裏的“感覺移位很重”，很喜歡。。。"ＳＭＥＬＬ ＹＯＵ
Ｒ ＳＭＡＬＬ /ＨＡＰＰＩＮＥＳＳ"。。。
渾然一體的
清。。
淨。。
。。
。
之所以說，生命，智慧，靈魂。。。無性別之分，不單是字麵上，這些詞語不用男
女前綴來表達；其實稍靜心下來想一下就可以了。
男人／女人性格：體現在男人和女人的性格，是ＣＨＡＲＡＣＴＥＲＩＳＴＩＣＳ，
但不是ＮＡＴＵＲＥ
男人／女人智慧：是日常生活柴米油鹽的ＴＩＰ，怎樣穿好看，怎樣好ＥＱ。或許
可以讓一個男／女人ＳＭＡＲＴ，但不是ＷＩＳＥ。ＴＩＰ 不是ＷＩＳＤＯＭ。
我想，“男人”和“女人”在藝術家心裏，更多是“ＳＹＭＢＯＬ”，是一股生命
力量，也可以預示自然力量（陽／陰，日／月，火／水，山／河。。。）的兩種展
示，它們的融和調協非常ＰＯＷＥＲＦＵＬ。不管男人女人，都有一個共同的問題
就是“我是誰”，“生活的目的是什麽”。。。追尋過程或者”答案“是依照個人
的生活環境，ＳＥＬＦ－ＡＷＡＲＥＮＥＳＳ的強度 － － － 這裏也不是Ｈ
ＩＭ／ＨＥＲ－ＳＥＬＦ－ＡＷＡＲＥＮＥＳＳ，和毅力，好多好多因素來決定。。。，
但我想還是個人因素居多。尋求的ＩＤＥＮＴＩＴＹ，不是來自外界的所有因素的
總合，“男，２４，漢。。。”這些或許可以ＩＤＥＮＴＩＦＹ一個嫌疑犯，但對
一個人的內心世界是沒有用的，每一個人都是一個ＩＮＤＩＶＩＤＵＡＬ，獨特。
人的ＳＥＬＦ－ＡＷＡＲＥＮＥＳＳ增強，對世界就會一份敏感，對生命，靈魂。。。
這些很“抽象”的概念就會有追尋的動力；對別人的苦難也會感受同情。。。因為
喚醒的是全人類，一個很ＵＮＩＶＥＲＳＡＬ的共性：人性。所以說，母親也是一
個“ＳＹＭＢＯＬ”，就象上次討論的一樣。。。
而且“平凡”也不是一個詞而已，卡夫卡在一家店裏賣東西（多麽平凡的生活呀！），
但寫出了現代文學裏最好的作品之一。所以呢，人隻要不流於世俗和甘於平庸，都
有“救”。
/\ known as "blade" representing aggression; the original icon for female is \/ known as "chalice" representing fertility. "Holy Grail" is a symbol represent sacred vessel that gives birth to the life...;)
Well, distrated from the subject. Only because ZF mentioned hermapharodite it reminded me this connection..:)
ABout "雙重個性", I remembered there is some interesting writing in "Da Vinci Code", that Holy Grail... ALso the paint "Mona Lisa" was said to contain "雙重性別". I could be have wrong memory..:))
I started to wondering what I was doing? I am not only living for today, I am more andanced now! I am trying to learn to live for the every changing living instant! My oh my, can I handle this?? :)
Then I had to close my eyes and say "surrender!". Oopes, I meant to say, "let go of all the moments!" :)))
:))
see with your mind's eye....
我也是。。。但是不是要得過且過的那個意思。。。
所以我認為 a personal "happiness" or "pleasure" is IMPORTANT....
it is "good" or "lucky" for some one.... 我想為了所愛的人也要想法快樂，才對得起自己所愛的人，如果我們每個人都能快快樂樂的，這個世界也就太平了...
我的思想很簡單，其實真正快樂比痛苦困難多了（我的個人體會）。。。
You may say Im a dreamer,
but Im not the only one,
......
:))
i agree....
when we look at those paintings, we know that is what the artists reveal to us...
you missed the "meeting" ... now it's your turn to speak...:)
i am also living for today... :)
I don't know whether there is sexual identity at the "soul" level. But I bet the sexual differention must started at very high level. From 0 to 1 no difference, but from 1 to 2, I bet 2 ("Ying and Yang") inferred sexual difference. A pure guess.:)
Imagine there's no heaven,
It's easy if you try,
No hell below us,
Above us only sky,
Imagine all the people
living for today...
Above us only sky。。。所以對於凡人來說，智慧或許就是"living for today..."
米勒的智慧也是這樣的"living for today..."
in short, a personal "happiness" or "pleasure" is not important....it is "good" or "lucky" for some one....
so, we keep an eye on the world, another on the inner universe....
您這可是真正的藝術家的胸懷！！！
:))
"性別之分" should not keep one from getting 智慧....
Lennon's song is about world peace....that is very very very important!!!
:)
in short, a personal "happiness" or "pleasure" is not important....it is "good" or "lucky" for some one....
so, we keep an eye on the world, another on the inner universe....
人在慢慢的蘇醒...成熟...
（完全同意！！！）
凡人還是有性別之分的（至少現在我自己的直覺自己還是個女性，等我成熟的時候或許沒有，但是生命是一個成熟的過程。。。），人的靈覺進入“上乘”或許沒有，那有點“神”，比如觀音其實是男人等等神秘。。。
人在進行藝術創作時，感覺到神助時或許沒有，比如很多藝術家雙性戀，我都是可以理解:))
人---靈魂，生命, 無性別之分---（那必定是個天堂！天堂裏沒有評判和沒有辨別沒有智慧人人一樣何來男女之分別？？）
Imagine no possesions,
I wonder if you can,
No need for greed or hunger,
A brotherhood of man,
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...
（我一直佩服列儂的領悟力）
人---靈魂，生命, 無性別之分---在慢慢的蘇醒...成熟...（！！！！！！！！）
（我是這樣理解你這句話的。。。我無法一下子躍入天堂：）
:)
any good artist possesses something different or unique....
we should not confuse the artist as a person and her/his art...
we must admit that our world has been greatly dominated by patriarchical doctrines ... women in the West has very little freedom until not long ago...
i forgot who said that "artists are medias through whom beautiful things come to life," or something like that....
說得很好！成熟 。 。 。
女人在慢慢的蘇醒。。。。
藝術，智慧，靈魂，生命。。。無性別之分 。。。。;)
thank you for the beautiful translation!!!
can i buy you a beer?
:))
should be:
很多聰明的人兼具男女雙重個性。。。
:))
可以聽到
你此刻正在
秋季無名的樹間
悄然漫步
撫摸著記憶
濕潤的葉
靜飲著回想
與心中渴望的
色彩
沒有雨
我想我仍可以(如果
努力試)
聞到你不為人知的
歡樂，不能人為地
衡量，也不以你
自己無疑的
認同
傾聽著雨
我的靈魂借以聲音
讓我相信
從現在開始，一切
都會好起來，如這靜靜的飄落
沒有失去
沒有獲得
另一個聲音
：
生命如此
死亡如此
愛如此
所有我們試圖
命名的一切
都如此
= = = = = = =
一切 )
源於 歸於
靜
。
。
。
所以很開心我們每個人都可以在這裏想說什麽就說什麽:)
YY說的，SD說的，詩人說的。。。我都喜歡聽。。。
我想說的是不同中的某種類似，等我自己弄明白了能表達時再說吧，我現在說的很籠統，但我有這方麵的一點點細微的直覺。。。
“we should not confuse the artist as a person and her/his art...“
"artists are medias through whom beautiful things come to life,"
完全同意！！！
“Art, it has been said, is beauty, and a thing of beauty is a joy for ever”.
we should not confuse the artist as a person and her/his art...
we must admit that our world has been greatly dominated by patriarchical doctrines ... women in the West has very little freedom until not long ago...
i forgot who said that "artists are medias through whom beautiful things come to life," or something like that....
cheers!!
i never knew i have 'supernatural power' like spying...:))
well, good for you to have bought his poster!!!!
$25 is still a big sum for me :))
my posters were all under $15....
ZF,
this poem was written some time ago....it's been raining off and on for days over here....rainy season now....
李敖說佛教的精髓是男人來生想變佛，女人來生想變成男人。。。Adi Da 讀書時很感興趣Gertrude Stein，而Gertrude Stein在她的有生之年是以男人的感覺生活的，所以Adi Da神乎其神沒什麽好奇怪的。。。任何一種宗教我以為其實都是對世界的認識。。。所以每個人或多或少都有宗教情懷。。。如果一個人信的是他自己對世界的認識，進入上乘，離“神”也就不遠了。。。
我很滿意自己很平凡，今生想做個女人，來生也隻想做個女人，可見我多麽弱智:)) 很多聰明的女人兼具男人與女人的雙重個性。。。
...
Listening to the rain
my soul takes on a voice
making me believe
everything will be alright
from now on, like this quiet falling
Nothing is lost
Nothing gained
...
this other voice
:
So is life
So is death
So is love
and everything else
we want to name
很有同感！！！
也喜歡Adi Da的這幅作品，天蠍座不少藝術家的內在視覺很獨特，比如畢加索。。。
among the nameless
trees of autumn
touching the wet
leaves of memory
drinking the colors
of remembrance &
the longing-in-the-heart
....
Listening to the rain
my soul takes on a voice
making me believe
everything will be alright
from now on, like this quiet falling
Nothing is lost
Nothing gained"
I am wondering whether you "spy" at me and my mind when I walk among the woods. :)
//
As you can sense, I love Alex's art very much! In fact, I bought one of his post today. Yesterday the price was marked $40 (withoun signiture), today it reduced to $25. What a coincidence! Did they know that I can't afford $40, but can afford $25? :))
I also checked out Adi Da's teaching. I love his teaching. But after reading "Ken Wilber"'s assay, I got a more realistic view of Da as a person.:)