Parting Rain (圖)

Parting Rain each essential to be a partial whole- ness & dismiss the seasonal allegory the universe is so-smally wed in you / with you and it is nothing but a delayed n-e-w-s we know that don’t we? and parting rain whets my desire to be & to be wet with you in this dry season and why not step out the leaky shed & be rained upon & sing your own s-o-n-g ::june 2005 art: derek batty

[影雲]

作舟，謝謝你對畫餅充饑的詮釋，開心你的理解！！！
也謝謝你精辟的愛的藝術課！！！“三十七計，愛為上！！！！！”

我想，我們現在的疑惑早在人類的SELF-AWARENESS蘇醒時就有了，這樣久的曆史裏，
也有不少人找到“答案”和“解決這些問題的辦法”。但人類仍孜孜以求。那是因
為我們需要自己“尋”到“答案”，而不是依賴誰給予。

我所說ENJOY YOUR LIFE裏，就有“放下”的意思 - - - 退一步，海闊天空。

[LTG]

same here....

making "noise" is a good thing!!

:))

[by水滴]

老塘沽， 和你聊天挺過癮的， 再次謝謝。

[by水滴]

I am confused why "love takes more than one heart/mind...."?

[LTG]

"......I do see a lot of people are burned and lost their mind when "in Love"...

that means they are not loving, but "laboring/slaving/making a full time job out of it"....pity on them!!!!

one cannot "make" love happen....one can make "success" or "war" happen ...

love takes more than one heart/mind....

love is an art more than a "work"....

when there's too much expectation, there will be less love...

love should burn like the fire in the fireplace in winter, not the fire caused by earth quake :))

talking about Love is too easy.....but it helps us take it seriously....

[by水滴]

Good point! "why do we have to be "burnt" when in love??"

The matter of fact is that I do see a lot of people are burned and lost their mind when "in Love". what are the factors that determined that some are burned and some are not? I really need to ponder about it more.

Thanks for your response and patient.:)

[LTG]

水滴,

goooooood!!!

don't mention it!!

:))

[by水滴]

:)) Hi, LTG: As I told you before, sometimes I could be very "bad" and say something to "piss off" the others. I actualy didn't mean that you really thinks so..:)) For two years we have been knowing each other, at least I know something about you that will not make me to draw this conclusion. If, I do, I won't even mention about it! :))

[LTG]

"btw. Oh, forget to ask LTG, How to prevent being burned into ashes when one loves with all his/her heart and soul? Can one be madly in love while still stay rational?"

why do we have to be "burnt" when in love??

why can't we become more healthier, happier, sexier, more attractive when in love???

:))

if, and only if, one is truly in love [with another person, a place, a career, an art, Life, etc...], one's life should be enriched and enhanced and enlightened.....that is true Love as far as i see it....

"rational" is another problem....

according to what standard we measure something/behavior as "rational/irrational??"

a tip for shui-di:

sit quietly with your favorite poem/poems, and read it and read it and read it and read it until tears drop....

:))

the reason?

that happens to me many many times...:)

[LTG]

水滴,

what you said is also true... but i am not suggesting that "i" can love my "enemy"....i try....that is all....

like writing and reading poetry, i never expect magic will happen....no.... but i write and write and write....that's all there is to it

:)

i have never meant to suggest that you have less artistic quality or capacity to love....no.....sorry if i made any unclear comments...:)

everyone who participated these discussions have shown incredible concern and talent regarding Life/Love?Meaning, etc....

[by水滴]

AAAB: You are right, loss is something we need to deal with through out our life. So try LTG's way, LOVE with all your heart when you have chance. I guess, you will feel more fulfilled than you never loved and never tasted the pain of lose...

btw. Oh, forget to ask LTG, How to prevent being burned into ashes when one loves with all his/her heart and soul? Can one be madly in love while still stay rational?

hehe, hope you don't mind that recently I am quite noisy...:))

[LTG]

"...想著世事的難測，和虛擬世界的不穩定性，怕這裏會突然消失，無影無蹤，什麽也不留....."

everything, i mean EVERYthing, will "突然消失，無影無蹤，什麽也不留....."

that is fact....

knowing the "facts" and understand them make us strong/peaceful so that we can enjoy this short but beautiful life....

another method:

if we fear something will disappear, we should do something to keep it grow and healthy, right? :)

[by水滴]

:)) LTG: you guessed that a person like me who is not artistic will be dissappointed by your anwser,right? Maybe I have less capacity to love than a poet.:))))

Unconditional love is very hard to achieve. Congratulation to you if you can truelly love your enemy! You know, only very few parents can unconditionally love their children. I don't know how many can unconditionally love their enemy. But there was and is and will be people who can achieve this! Solute from RC!

[AAAB]

我能愛，但愛到極至就成了怕，怕失去。如同愛你們和你們的詩歌在這兒一樣，但想著世事的難測，和虛擬世界的不穩定性，怕這裏會突然消失，無影無蹤，什麽也不留......

[LTG]

水滴,

我的答案會讓你失望：）

因為，我戰勝“恐懼”的方法是詩歌，是藝術。

心理學家/哲學家/資本家/藝術家會有不同的選擇。

恐懼人人都有，有人怕胖，有人怕窮，有人怕死，有人怕孤獨。。。

如果我們對人生的意義感興趣的話，我們就知道“恐懼”與它是無關的。

戰勝恐懼如戰勝敵人。

如何去戰勝“敵人”呢？

打啊！

不。

要學會去愛你的“敵人”！！！

作舟恍然大悟：

三十七計，愛為上！！！！！

[by水滴]

In stead of self-soothing, people can self-stimilating. Imaginary cake is used to comfort us, fear is used to make us uneased (Huang Huang Bu Ke Zhong ri).

According to LTG: people can choose not to fear. My question is how one can be empowered to chose not to fear? What is the best way to help ourselve to overcome the real fear?

[LTG]

yes, AAAB,

feelings of "insecure" has a lot to do with the outside world, which puts pressure on people (so that our "civilization would move forward" :)

by saying "having individual choices," i mean that we can create fears as well as love/beauty/gratefulness, etc...

why waste time creating fears while there is potential in every and each one of us the ability to create Love/beauty/gratefulness, etc...??

[AAAB]

我覺得“恐懼”大部分是來自體內的，被外界刺激了的部分被放大了，成了威脅性的“恐懼”；沒被外界刺激的部分，被體內自身吸收了，消失了。
我常有“恐懼”感，不安全感，多半屬“個人製造”。哈

[LTG]

各位好!

抱歉沒能及時參與你們的討論! 難度不小啊!

比較突出的是關於"恐懼/擔憂"的討論[水滴,影雲和知凡都談到了]...

我覺得影雲引用"畫餅充饑"很恰當, 就是說這裏麵的“方法”。

畫的“餅”怎麽能充饑？

當然能。如，“望梅止渴”的典故。

“恐懼”是什麽？

恐懼也是“畫”出來的呀！！畫，就是想象。

所以，“恐懼”和“餅”都可以是很“真實”的東西，如詩歌裏的“真實”。

恐懼會被人利用去威脅，操縱他人。國家的領袖/政府甚至利用人們的心理的弱點
來故意製造恐懼，來操縱芸芸眾生的意誌。

我們以前都同意人的生命是一種肉眼看不見的energy, 就像行屍走肉沒有積極的
能量一樣，我們能感到，但見不到人的“靈魂”，“靈犀”等等。

世俗的“實用主義”把人們搞糊塗了，什麽能生財升官才是“有用的”。

這些道理是一樣的，所以，隻有少數人讀詩歌。

從而，有人選擇“畫餅”，有人被迫“畫恐懼”，也有人選擇“畫”詩歌/藝術等。

一個人的生活/生命在離開母體後，多靠自己的選擇。作為集體動物的人，我們的“選擇”
也可能是相對的，我說我們的“選擇”是無限的，你大概會說是極其有限的。

不論如何，我們每一個人都有一定的選擇能力，畫餅畫鬼，就在個人了。

[影雲]

離別的雨

部分完整
的萬物之本
打發走
季節性的
寓言

宇宙
在你裏麵
與你
細微地
結合
這不是
別的，而是
遲到的
新聞

我們早已
明白
難道不是？

離別的雨
驚醒
我的渴望
與你
與你一起
濕潤
在這幹燥的
季節裏

為何
不踏出
漏雨的棚
被雨
淋濕，放聲
高歌

[by水滴]

AAAB: You are quite humorous.:))

[AAAB]

hope i could fortunately meet a pretty woman walking in the rain and singing the nameless songs
parting rain
whets
my desire
to be
& to be
wet
with you
in this dry
season

[知凡]

水滴，那咱來生就做那一雙孤燕吧！！！來生我肯定是個男的，但會很“花心”，你可得先有準備......:)水滴，若不“花心”也做不了"孤燕"，你要明白這個“真理”，“花心”不等於“隨處發泄”......這是知凡目前的所“知”，所以呢，明亮眼睛，來生咱兩唱一曲“雙飛燕”.....別生氣，知凡很真心哦:))

[by水滴]

那樣，一隻孤燕就成了對。。你知道嗎， 我的小名叫燕子。我很喜歡燕子。

[知凡]

水滴，小時候我對孫悟空72變的能力非常神往。如果下次我看見一個女子在雨中，唱著歌，我會變成水滴的心上人摟著你……. 哈哈！開玩笑，千萬別生氣…… 這是我讀到你的描述，第一個出現在我腦海裏的畫麵，不騙你……:)

[by水滴]

I can't interpret much of the abstract meaning here. But I can share a concrete experience..:)

One of my favorate pleasure is walking along a hiking trail in my neighborhood under a raining sky, alone, singing along the way and let myself soaked in the rain. I love rain for whatever the reason.

Next time whenyou see a silly woman walking in the rain and singing the nameless songs, that could be me..:))

[by水滴]

Like the paint, this piece is too abstract for me. Try to understand and my thoughts start to jump..:))

[影雲]

Love it!!!
Beautiful, flowing, and philosophical!!!
Love the dualism in it too