拋磚引玉, 如何定義Real Estate Professional

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拋磚引玉, 如何定義Real Estate Professional

瞎叔提到利用Real Estate Professional出租房損失抵W2稅,IRS 查起來可能夠嗆,尤其是FULL TIME W2

這是我的一點心得,希望瞎叔和各位討論。

IRS 定義

Qualifying as a Real Estate Professional

You qualify as a real estate professional for the tax year if you meet both of the following requirements.

1.       More than half of the personal services you perform in all trades or businesses during the tax year are performed in real property trades or businesses in which you materially participate.

2.       You perform more than 750 hours of services during the tax year in real property trades or businesses in which you materially participate.

如果我有一份FULL TIME工作, 例如碼工, 一周40小時,一年2080小時(當然可以減去節假日等), 我必須花在房地產上2081小時以上才能符合Real Estate Professional. 而且需用每天記錄活動。遠程地主或委托PM的肯定沒戲。

 

有沒有RE License 似乎不重要. 有網友吐槽,IRS 根本不看你的材料,直接罰款。

IRS 定義的房地產活動:

Real property trades or businesses.   A real property trade or business is a trade or business that does any of the following with real property.

1.       Develops or redevelops it.

2.       Constructs or reconstructs it.

3.       Acquires it.

4.       Converts it.

5.       Rents or leases it.

6.       Operates or manages it.

7.       Brokers it.

而且以下活動不算時間 (IRS沒有定義, 網上查的)

1. Researching the market for new properties (!!!)

2. Overseeing repairs done by a contracting company.

 3. For those properties where we used a property management company, any coordination with the property management company was not an allowable activity.

4. Collecting deposits/income, depositing deposits/income, cutting the grass, shoveling the snow, maintaining the premises, answering phones, checking the mail, drive-bys and tax preparation.

Source: http://www.ustaxaidservices.com/diane_kennedy/real-estate-professional-status-under-irs-attack/

5. Paying bills, organizing files, Travel time to your rental

http://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/51/topics/64967-real-estate-professional-irs-audit

 

IRS 要查的話, 可能要的東西 (網上的):

I do not have an office appointment. The IRS wants me to mail back information within 15 days. The following is a summary of the seven (7) requirements in the IRS letter that I must respond to:

1. Detailed log of services and hours.
2. Hours worked with W-2 wages.
3. Contract between us and any tenants receiving free or reduced rent for managing or otherwise caring for the properties.
4. Contract between us and the company managing our rental property.
5. Rental leases.
6. Any management fees or other fees netted out of gross rents.
7. For any vacant property, evidence to verify our attempt to rent out the property.
http://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/51/topics/64967-real-estate-professional-irs-audit?page=2

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謝謝。我研究的結果是拿兩份W2的,搞professional,IRS最喜歡跟蹤的對象。 -SunshineInCA- 給 SunshineInCA 發送悄悄話 (103 bytes) () 11/02/2012 postreply 10:38:21

What if you are a real estate agent as second Job. -pinerock- 給 pinerock 發送悄悄話 (160 bytes) () 11/02/2012 postreply 10:57:51

no idea -SunshineInCA- 給 SunshineInCA 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/02/2012 postreply 10:58:32

guess not if RE Agent time< W2 time -shouzugong- 給 shouzugong 發送悄悄話 shouzugong 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 11/02/2012 postreply 11:07:53

Very hard for two W-2. I just paid the tax. Otherwise, if 被IRS -seabright123- 給 seabright123 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/02/2012 postreply 15:51:45

隻要沒有委托PM的都可以算 - 我的理解。 -漫漫人生路- 給 漫漫人生路 發送悄悄話 (42 bytes) () 11/02/2012 postreply 10:59:59

你仔細讀LZ的貼,很多不能算!!! -SunshineInCA- 給 SunshineInCA 發送悄悄話 (41 bytes) () 11/02/2012 postreply 11:08:06

我沒機會 -漫漫人生路- 給 漫漫人生路 發送悄悄話 (58 bytes) () 11/02/2012 postreply 14:44:42

You wish。 -texastrader- 給 texastrader 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/02/2012 postreply 11:21:46

don't ask for trouble. -jjj7- 給 jjj7 發送悄悄話 jjj7 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 11/02/2012 postreply 11:24:17

Professional 是什麽? -wooddiy- 給 wooddiy 發送悄悄話 wooddiy 的博客首頁 (198 bytes) () 11/02/2012 postreply 11:27:38

just added IRS 要查的話, 可能要的東西 -shouzugong- 給 shouzugong 發送悄悄話 shouzugong 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 11/02/2012 postreply 12:11:18

老實交稅,別想歪招,會被罰死的! -Joseph758- 給 Joseph758 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/02/2012 postreply 12:18:48

這裏大多數人沒戲 -yunchu- 給 yunchu 發送悄悄話 (86 bytes) () 11/02/2012 postreply 12:24:20

每年的請CPA的費用是不能省的。真的查起來他們還能壓住不少。 -美藍海- 給 美藍海 發送悄悄話 美藍海 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 11/02/2012 postreply 12:53:23

收藏了, 謝謝! -紫婷- 給 紫婷 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/02/2012 postreply 13:37:48

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