fine, i give you 12%

still massively underperforming the S&P.

mine is irrelevent for this thread (typical strategy used by the loser in the debate to switch the topic).... but just to make you feel even worse, I OVERperform the S&P.

just check my posts in the past couple years, to see my method.

true, you prolly never learned anything from me.... because I don't have a '5-minute' method for you.... it's all hardwork.