APAD:2 live is 2 suffer, 2 survive is 2 find some meaning

本帖於 2025-12-03 08:37:48 時間, 由普通用戶 最西邊的島上 編輯

The quote "to live is to suffer, to survive is to find some meaning in the suffering" is famously attributed to the German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche (尼采).  It suggests that suffering is an unavoidable part of life, but the act of surviving depends on finding purpose within that suffering, which provides the strength to endure it. This idea is echoed by Viktor Frankl in Man's Search for Meaning, who observed that a lack of meaning is what makes life unbearable, not suffering itself.

It also means that survival is not a passive act but an active process of giving purpose to the hardships, transforming it into something valuable. This must be found by the individual, not dictated by others.

- From online with editing
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Three days ago, a comment from 7G as above not only caught my eye, but made me deep in thought: what exactly is life and what is the meaning of living???

Next day, friend 衝浪潛水員(who used be a 版主 here in MYSJ) joked in 笑壇 that life itself is a joke sometimes, which touched me again.  So I dug out this well known phrase from Nietzsche.

 



Not a believer of any man-made religion, but I have read book "Buddha" by Karen Armstrong and appreciate the life lived by Siddhartha Gautama, founder of Buddhism.  I think his philosophy of how to end suffering and achieve Nirvana might be similar to Nietzsche's.

Alright, enough talking today. Here is a beautiful song by Bella Yao (姚貝娜)for you all to enjoy.

 

 

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NOD NOD.我很同意老尼, 我發現我看中國足球就是這樣,SUFFER很多年了 -永遠老李- 給 永遠老李 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 12/03/2025 postreply 08:54:50

噗嗤:-)投壇有人說過中國愛選個兒高的。我(喜歡看也瞎踢過一次:-)覺得足球隊員要靈活能跑,個子太高了,除頭球時有用外, -最西邊的島上- 給 最西邊的島上 發送悄悄話 最西邊的島上 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/03/2025 postreply 09:12:23

不一定合適。當然我沒有老李兄懂球兒哈。謝! -最西邊的島上- 給 最西邊的島上 發送悄悄話 最西邊的島上 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/03/2025 postreply 09:13:29

衝浪潛水員曾經是美語世界的版主啊?這個沒想到。其實吧,做版主就是做義工,應該擺正心態,多點服務精神,少點官本位主義 -JoyAnna.- 給 JoyAnna. 發送悄悄話 JoyAnna. 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/03/2025 postreply 09:07:01

但有些人常常有占山為王的狹隘。格局小了點。在網絡世界也不例外。其實都是虛無~~ -JoyAnna.- 給 JoyAnna. 發送悄悄話 JoyAnna. 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/03/2025 postreply 09:14:13

“忽聞海上有仙山,山在虛無縹緲間” 。人類在地球上隻存在了很短很短,我們都隻是過客。But long live大自然! -最西邊的島上- 給 最西邊的島上 發送悄悄話 最西邊的島上 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/03/2025 postreply 10:05:35

Eaxctly! 還要專業強,公平正義善良包容。年初星壇班委和兩位班長幾次邀我做今年班長,我明白自己隻會實話直說會得罪人 -最西邊的島上- 給 最西邊的島上 發送悄悄話 最西邊的島上 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/03/2025 postreply 09:19:02

會對星壇不利,所以每次都婉言謝絕了。我很感恩他們的信任。雖然現在時間有限(除參加活動外)不太去了,但友誼長存! -最西邊的島上- 給 最西邊的島上 發送悄悄話 最西邊的島上 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/03/2025 postreply 09:21:38

支持你做,你做版主,我就去玩。哈哈 -JoyAnna.- 給 JoyAnna. 發送悄悄話 JoyAnna. 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/03/2025 postreply 09:23:13

~~ 現在你也可以去玩兒!!那裏比較甜 :-),對新人是很友好滴! -最西邊的島上- 給 最西邊的島上 發送悄悄話 最西邊的島上 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/03/2025 postreply 09:29:55

還是等你做版主吧,哈哈 -JoyAnna.- 給 JoyAnna. 發送悄悄話 JoyAnna. 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/03/2025 postreply 10:05:44

別介,那要等到花兒也謝了哈 :-) -最西邊的島上- 給 最西邊的島上 發送悄悄話 最西邊的島上 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/03/2025 postreply 10:10:25

2 live is 2 suffer, 2 survive is 2 find some meaning -JoyAnna.- 給 JoyAnna. 發送悄悄話 JoyAnna. 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/03/2025 postreply 09:10:56

對,唯有如此,所有的苦,就不是白白地受。: D -JoyAnna.- 給 JoyAnna. 發送悄悄話 JoyAnna. 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/03/2025 postreply 09:12:21

+100! Learn from the past & move forward happily! Cheers :-) -最西邊的島上- 給 最西邊的島上 發送悄悄話 最西邊的島上 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/03/2025 postreply 09:26:48

desire is the root of suffer, human live to desire -移花接木- 給 移花接木 發送悄悄話 移花接木 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/03/2025 postreply 10:19:21

"The same sun that melts the wax hardens the clay. -7G" -最西邊的島上- 給 最西邊的島上 發送悄悄話 最西邊的島上 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/03/2025 postreply 10:54:09

the trick's 2 keep good desires & stay far away from bad 1s. -最西邊的島上- 給 最西邊的島上 發送悄悄話 最西邊的島上 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/03/2025 postreply 17:13:26

suffered two chokes today. to get even's my life's meaning. -7grizzly- 給 7grizzly 發送悄悄話 7grizzly 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/03/2025 postreply 14:40:51

Sorry 2 hear. Give & take, that's life's about, even in BJJ. -最西邊的島上- 給 最西邊的島上 發送悄悄話 最西邊的島上 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/03/2025 postreply 15:16:50

hopefully 2 chokes today -> better self protection tomorrow! -最西邊的島上- 給 最西邊的島上 發送悄悄話 最西邊的島上 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/03/2025 postreply 15:48:00

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