APAD: Full of piss and vinegar

Meaning:

   Rowdy, boisterous, full of youthful energy.

 

Background:

   The earliest citation I've found is from 1936 in John Steinbeck's novel In

   Dubious Battle:

     "Listen, mister," London said, "them guys is so full of piss and vinegar

     they'll skin you if you show that slick suit outside."

 

   Steinbeck was clearly pleased with the phrase (although it is unlikely that

   he coined it himself) and repeated the use of it 1938 in his better known

   novel The Grapes of Wrath:

 

     Grampa walked up and slapped Tom on the chest, and his eyes grinned with

         affection and pride. "How are ya, Tommy?"

     "O.K.," said Tom. "How ya keepin' yaself?"

     "Full a piss an' vinegar," said Grampa.

 

   Peter B. Kyne's 1922 novel "They Also Serve" includes what seems to be a

   straightforward polite alternative to `piss and vinegar':

 

     "He's full of pep and vinegar and wild for exercise."

 

   Vinegar has been in the language as the name of the familiar liquid since the

   12th century. During the 1920s vinegar was used to mean vitality and energy

   and that's the meaning in `piss and vinegar' and `pep and vinegar'. At that

   time many phrases indicating a general perkiness and vitality entered the

   language, often for no other reason than linguistic exuberance.

 

- www.phrases.org.uk [edited]

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I have personally witnessed two types after a certain age, let's say 70. The

first waste away in bitterness and fear despite of having all the care they

need. The second, oblivious to the wonders of high-tech and modern medicine, run

around full of piss and vinegar till the end.

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a funny one ;-). my neighbours r of the 3rd type, have high -最西邊的島上- 給 最西邊的島上 發送悄悄話 最西邊的島上 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/16/2024 postreply 09:09:02

tech & medicine, but r still bitter (1+2=3 after all ;-)) -最西邊的島上- 給 最西邊的島上 發送悄悄話 最西邊的島上 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/16/2024 postreply 09:16:42

They fly in the face of the nostrum of modernity. -7grizzly- 給 7grizzly 發送悄悄話 7grizzly 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/16/2024 postreply 09:42:27

but neighbours In their80s r 4 of fun: one even glued her -最西邊的島上- 給 最西邊的島上 發送悄悄話 最西邊的島上 的博客首頁 (956 bytes) () 12/16/2024 postreply 10:00:21

You draw well on concrete too! -7grizzly- 給 7grizzly 發送悄悄話 7grizzly 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/16/2024 postreply 10:31:24

Good handwriting and drawing -天邊一片白雲- 給 天邊一片白雲 發送悄悄話 天邊一片白雲 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/16/2024 postreply 14:09:56

alsoSee 4of vim/spit &vinegar.Guess everyoneLikes vinegar;-) -最西邊的島上- 給 最西邊的島上 發送悄悄話 最西邊的島上 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/16/2024 postreply 09:12:04

Good2know. Others come and go, vinegar stays. -7grizzly- 給 7grizzly 發送悄悄話 7grizzly 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/16/2024 postreply 09:46:07

所以要多吃醋:) for no other reason than linguistic exuberance.+1 -暖冬cool夏- 給 暖冬cool夏 發送悄悄話 暖冬cool夏 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/16/2024 postreply 10:39:45

Read a few Steinbeck‘s. Totally understand his repetition. -暖冬cool夏- 給 暖冬cool夏 發送悄悄話 暖冬cool夏 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/16/2024 postreply 10:40:54

Okay. New year resolution: to finish The Grape of Wrath :-) -7grizzly- 給 7grizzly 發送悄悄話 7grizzly 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/16/2024 postreply 11:50:30

醋太多對胃不好 ;-)&"U get moreFlies w/ honey than withVinegar" ;-) -最西邊的島上- 給 最西邊的島上 發送悄悄話 最西邊的島上 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/16/2024 postreply 11:00:43

Full of Vinegar 沒有嫉妒的意思? -天邊一片白雲- 給 天邊一片白雲 發送悄悄話 天邊一片白雲 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/16/2024 postreply 14:14:44

don't know, just checked: it‘s full of acid "CH3COOH". LOL -最西邊的島上- 給 最西邊的島上 發送悄悄話 最西邊的島上 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/16/2024 postreply 14:29:57

Haha -天邊一片白雲- 給 天邊一片白雲 發送悄悄話 天邊一片白雲 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/16/2024 postreply 15:52:24

Western vinegar means vitality, not jealousy. -7grizzly- 給 7grizzly 發送悄悄話 7grizzly 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/16/2024 postreply 14:48:11

Good. I like vinegar -天邊一片白雲- 給 天邊一片白雲 發送悄悄話 天邊一片白雲 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/16/2024 postreply 15:52:49

Vivid, if I a had shot of vinegar while hold a piss, I'd -移花接木- 給 移花接木 發送悄悄話 移花接木 的博客首頁 (34 bytes) () 12/16/2024 postreply 14:27:11

LOL, LOL, LOL ... -最西邊的島上- 給 最西邊的島上 發送悄悄話 最西邊的島上 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/16/2024 postreply 14:31:11

a powerful combo indeed. -7grizzly- 給 7grizzly 發送悄悄話 7grizzly 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/16/2024 postreply 14:48:33

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