APAD: For Keeps

Meaning:

   Play to keep the winnings. Also, more generally, especially in America, `in

   deadly earnest; in such a way that the result will stand'.

   

Background:

 

   The game of marbles is older than recorded history - marbles have been found

   in ancient Egyptian and Roman tombs. There is a version of the game that has

   been in vogue since at least the mid 19th century which is called keepies or

   for keeps. As the name suggests, whoever wins the game keeps all the marbles.

   This is cited in an 1861 edition of the journal The Ladies' Repository:

   

     "See, mother, what a lot of marbles I've got!" said John.

     "I want you to make me a great big bag to put them in."

     "Why, where did you get so many, my son?" asked his mother.

     "I won them from Peter Jones. See I got his glass taw too. I loaned him one

      of mine to play with while he put that in the ring. Isn't it pretty?"

     "How much did you pay him for them?"

     "Pay him! Nothing. He and I played for `keeps' and I was the best player

      and won all his."

      

   The US meaning of the term is recorded from almost the same date. In 1866,

   Shanks' Personal Recollections included this:

   

     "`Fighting for keeps' is army slang and signifies fighting in deadly

     earnest."

     

- www.phrases.org.uk [edited]

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Winter time was slow time for the peasants on the Plain. Wheat, the staple crop,

had sprouted, basking in apricity and waiting for spring. There was not much to

do in the fields. Men and women gathered around mah-jong, a game of both luck

and skill. When stakes of small bills were added and people played for keeps,

things heated up and some spent days at a time at the table. Adults looked

sheepish when they finally came home and, win or lose, they were silent in front

of the kids, as if they had become children themselves and did something bad.

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B a kid in front of children? I felt so sorry 4theGambler;-) -最西邊的島上- 給 最西邊的島上 發送悄悄話 最西邊的島上 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/07/2024 postreply 07:55:41

but whatever we learn/gain from APAD will be for keeps!!! -最西邊的島上- 給 最西邊的島上 發送悄悄話 最西邊的島上 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/07/2024 postreply 08:00:06

Right. It's a good start, at least :-) -7grizzly- 給 7grizzly 發送悄悄話 7grizzly 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/07/2024 postreply 13:24:00

That kind of liberal thinking's dangerous :-) -7grizzly- 給 7grizzly 發送悄悄話 7grizzly 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/07/2024 postreply 13:37:36

獨占鼇頭 -妖妖靈- 給 妖妖靈 發送悄悄話 妖妖靈 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/07/2024 postreply 08:56:26

and find that 鼇頭's often not as it is cracked up to be :-)) -7grizzly- 給 7grizzly 發送悄悄話 7grizzly 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/07/2024 postreply 13:25:21

I always wonder, desperately deviated so much from desperate -移花接木- 給 移花接木 發送悄悄話 移花接木 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/07/2024 postreply 09:19:27

meaningwise, doesn't seem 2b an adv of desperate -移花接木- 給 移花接木 發送悄悄話 移花接木 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/07/2024 postreply 09:21:34

"Misery is complexity. Happiness is simplicity." -L.Levenson -最西邊的島上- 給 最西邊的島上 發送悄悄話 最西邊的島上 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/07/2024 postreply 09:31:14

Really? I've never suspected. -7grizzly- 給 7grizzly 發送悄悄話 7grizzly 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/07/2024 postreply 13:29:10

neither did I, just an illusion -移花接木- 給 移花接木 發送悄悄話 移花接木 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/07/2024 postreply 15:58:34

I remembered playing marbles as a kid. -天邊一片白雲- 給 天邊一片白雲 發送悄悄話 天邊一片白雲 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/07/2024 postreply 10:13:59

握(彈球兒)手!didn'tMind losingTheGame, butDon't loseUr marbles;-) -最西邊的島上- 給 最西邊的島上 發送悄悄話 最西邊的島上 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/07/2024 postreply 10:34:23

The 'glass taw' could be our 花心彈球. Very happy to learn. -7grizzly- 給 7grizzly 發送悄悄話 7grizzly 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/07/2024 postreply 13:28:13

Very happy to read and learn 2. A very well written paragrap -暖冬cool夏- 給 暖冬cool夏 發送悄悄話 暖冬cool夏 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/09/2024 postreply 00:38:00

Thanks, my friend. And good to have you back! -7grizzly- 給 7grizzly 發送悄悄話 7grizzly 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 12/09/2024 postreply 21:30:21

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