4:50 and if you go too far you then you’re actually going to turn people against you, cause' now you are no longer a victim who’s getting revenge, you are the perpetrator who is hurting somebody on purpose.
5:45 So you had the last spit and in this escalating cycle of revenge, I mean, I guess you kind of, you know, you had the last say, did you win? Clara, how did you feel? I felt terrible. Felt terrible about the whole thing. And I felt like Stacy just said, I had become the big jerk…