看了樓下疫苗3期臨床試驗的protocol。覺得Peter Doshi對結果的疑問有道理

來源: huntridge 2021-01-13 18:38:19 [] [博客] [舊帖] [給我悄悄話] 本文已被閱讀: 次 (2969 bytes)

protocol是症狀結合PCR測試:Combined with a positive PCR test result”、

https://bbs.wenxuecity.com/health/945713.html 

Peter Doshi質疑的是疑似情況:

https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2021/01/04/peter-doshi-pfizer-and-modernas-95-effective-vaccines-we-need-more-details-and-the-raw-data/

“Suspected covid-19”

All attention has focused on the dramatic efficacy results: Pfizer reported 170 PCR confirmed covid-19 cases, split 8 to 162 between vaccine and placebo groups. But these numbers were dwarfed by a category of disease called “suspected covid-19”—those with symptomatic covid-19 that were not PCR confirmed. According to FDA’s report on Pfizer’s vaccine, there were “3410 total cases of suspected, but unconfirmed covid-19 in the overall study population, 1594 occurred in the vaccine group vs. 1816 in the placebo group.

 

打疫苗有疑似症狀的比placebo多15%。這結果本身是不是有些意外?由於PCR測試有高達30%的假陰性所以Peter Doshi對結果有疑問。要求更多細節和raw data。

所有跟帖: 

下麵這個帖子的討論你沒有看嗎? -TBz- 給 TBz 發送悄悄話 TBz 的博客首頁 (194 bytes) () 01/13/2021 postreply 18:52:45

俺昨天貼了Doshi那個link。看了Pfizer等的procol後覺得Doshi懷疑有道理 -huntridge- 給 huntridge 發送悄悄話 huntridge 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 01/13/2021 postreply 19:14:42

看看這個視頻 -TBz- 給 TBz 發送悄悄話 TBz 的博客首頁 (188 bytes) () 01/13/2021 postreply 19:46:37

看了謝謝,俺也不認同19-29%有效率的說法所以也沒提,但是認同需要更多細節和原始數據 (怎麽排除假陰性?) -huntridge- 給 huntridge 發送悄悄話 huntridge 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 01/13/2021 postreply 20:22:34

UCSF江醫生, 戰鬥在醫務一線,也活躍在灣區跑群 -瞎走瞎拍- 給 瞎走瞎拍 發送悄悄話 瞎走瞎拍 的博客首頁 (97 bytes) () 01/14/2021 postreply 12:09:57

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