埃隆·馬斯克在X平台直播活動中助力德國極右翼政黨
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此次宣傳活動對德國另類選擇黨(AfD)來說可能是一次絕佳的機會。該黨一直被主流政治邊緣化,部分原因是其領導人淡??化了納粹的暴行。
馬斯克將於周四在X平台與德國另類選擇黨領導人魏德爾進行一場對話。
圖為德國另類選擇黨領導人愛麗絲·魏德爾周四在柏林與埃隆·馬斯克進行直播對話前。
2025年1月9日,美國東部時間下午3:16
作者:David Ingram 和 Alexander Smith
周四,埃隆·馬斯克在其社交媒體平台X上與德國極右翼反移民政黨“德國另類選擇黨”(AfD)的一位領導人舉行了一場直播活動。這是這位科技億萬富翁在歐洲和北美地區為反動候選人爭取支持的最新舉措。
作為世界首富,馬斯克與AfD聯合領導人愛麗絲·魏德爾進行了超過一個小時的對話,這無疑為該反移民政黨在下個月即將舉行的全國大選前帶來了一次高調的宣傳。
馬斯克的免費宣傳對AfD來說無疑是一大利好。該黨一直被排除在德國主流政治之外,部分原因是其領導人淡??化了納粹的暴行。德國國內情報機構正在監控德國另類選擇黨(AfD)的極端主義傾向。去年,一家德國法院維持了這種監控,認定部分AfD成員支持建立雙軌製社會,即賦予“德裔”公民比移民背景人士更多權利。
馬斯克和魏德爾的談話總體上很友好,魏德爾表示這種氛圍對她來說很不尋常。
“對我來說,能夠進行正常的對話,不被打斷或被負麵評價,這完全是全新的體驗,”她說。她稱馬斯克是一位“有遠見的人”。
自2022年收購當時名為Twitter的X公司以來,馬斯克已將這款應用打造成宣傳其政治理念的擴音器,並助力當選總統唐納德·特朗普去年的複出。馬斯克還恢複了此前被封禁的新納粹分子的賬號,並允許他們在平台上蓬勃發展,包括提供高級會員特權、分享廣告收入和銷售訂閱服務的機會。
據X平台的數據顯示,在任何特定時間,都有超過10萬個賬戶收聽這場純音頻聊天;總共有超過1100萬個賬戶瀏覽了X平台上的討論帖。目前尚不清楚其中有多少賬戶位於德國。
此次事件可能會對X在歐洲的運營產生監管影響。周二,歐洲社會黨發表聲明,抗議馬斯克的計劃,並要求歐盟“動用一切法律手段,保護民主免受社交媒體上的虛假信息和外國幹預”。X平台目前已因涉嫌違反歐盟《數字服務法》而接受調查。
X平台尚未就此次事件的潛在影響做出回應。
西班牙首相佩德羅·桑切斯周三表示,“極右翼”正由“地球上最富有的人”領導——他指的是特斯拉和SpaceX的首席執行官馬斯克,但並未直接點名——他還聲稱,該運動“煽動仇恨,並公開支持德國的納粹繼承人”。
在訪談中,馬斯克表示,在他看來,德國另類選擇黨(AfD)的立場“完全符合常理”,並列舉了該黨在能源政策和減少移民方麵的觀點。不過,他也承認,他和AfD在太陽能的價值問題上存在分歧:馬斯克是太陽能的主要支持者,而AfD則希望削減太陽能投入。
馬斯克的特斯拉在柏林郊外擁有一家大型工廠,該公司在試圖擴大業務規模的過程中,一直麵臨著當地的反對。
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AfD自2013年成立以來穩步發展——遠早於馬斯克表示支持該組織。在2月23日舉行的提前大選前(此次大選是由於德國左翼領導的聯合政府垮台而提前舉行的),AfD在全國民調中位列第二。去年,德國另類選擇黨(AfD)成為二戰以來首個贏得德國州選舉的極右翼政黨。
其他德國政黨因其極端立場而拒絕與AfD組建聯合政府。
AfD否認自身是極端主義政黨,並駁斥這些指控是當權派試圖將其排除在主流政治之外的伎倆。盡管如此,該黨領導人已明確表示,他們認為德國應該停止為納粹大屠殺和第三帝國的其他政策道歉。
魏德爾在被馬斯克問及對該黨的批評時表示,AfD與希特勒的政黨“截然相反”。她還表示,歐洲的左翼政黨才是反猶主義者。
“我們一直被錯誤地描述,我們希望澄清事實。”
The publicity was a potential boon for AfD, which has been frozen out of mainstream politics, in part, because its leaders have downplayed Nazi atrocities.

Alice Weidel, a leader of the far-right Alternative for Germany party, prior to a live discussion with Elon Musk from Berlin on Thursday.
Musk, the wealthiest person in the world, spent more than an hour speaking with Alice Weidel, co-leader of AfD, giving the anti-immigrant party a high-profile boost ahead of the national elections scheduled for next month.
The free publicity from Musk was a potential boon for AfD, which has been frozen out of mainstream German politics, in part, because its leaders have downplayed Nazi atrocities. The country’s domestic intelligence agencies are monitoring the AfD for extremism, and a German court upheld the surveillance last year, finding that some AfD members favor a two-tier society in which “ethnic” Germans are given more rights than people from immigrant backgrounds.
The conversation between Musk and Weidel was generally friendly, a dynamic that Weidel said was unusual for her.
“It’s a completely new situation for me that I just can have a normal conversation and I’m not interrupted or negatively framed,” she said. She called Musk a “visionary.”
Since purchasing X, then known as Twitter, in 2022, Musk has transformed the app into a megaphone for his own politics, helping to propel the comeback last year of President-elect Donald Trump. Musk has also reinstated the accounts of previously suspended neo-Nazis and allowed them to flourish on the platform, including with premium privileges and the opportunity to share in ad revenue and sell subscriptions.
More than 100,000 accounts were listening to the audio-only chat at any given time and, in all, more than 11 million accounts viewed the X post where the discussion took place, according to metrics on X. It wasn’t clear how many of the accounts were in Germany.
The event could have regulatory consequences for X in Europe. On Tuesday, the Party of European Socialists protested against Musk’s plans in a statement and asked the European Union to “use all the legal means available to protect democracy against misinformation and foreign interference on social media.” X is already under investigation for potential violations of the union’s Digital Services Act.
X did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the potential fallout.
Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez said Wednesday that the “ultra right” was being led “by the richest man on the planet” — referencing the Tesla and SpaceX CEO without naming him directly — and he alleged that the movement “incites hatred and openly supports the heirs of Nazism in Germany.”
Musk, during the chat, said that to him, AfD’s positions were “just common sense” and he cited the party’s views on energy policy and reducing immigration. He acknowledged, though, that he and AfD disagree on the value of solar energy, with Musk as a major proponent and AfD wanting to cut back.
Musk’s Tesla has a major factory outside Berlin, and the company has battled local opposition as it tries to expand its footprint.
AfD has grown steadily since its founding in 2013 — long before Musk offered the organization his support. Going into snap elections Feb. 23, called after the collapse of Germany’s left-led coalition government, AfD is polling in second place nationally. Last year, AfD became the first far-right party to win a state election in Germany since World War II.
Other German political parties have refused to join coalitions with AfD because of its extreme positions.
The AfD denies it is extremist, rejecting the allegations as an attempt by the establishment to exclude it from mainstream politics. Nonetheless, its leaders have made it clear they believe Germany should stop apologizing for the Holocaust and other policies of the Third Reich.
Weidel, asked by Musk to respond to criticism of the party, said that AfD is “exactly the opposite” of Adolf Hitler’s party. She said that it’s left-wing political parties in Europe that are antisemitic.
“We are wrongly framed the entire time, and we would like to free the people of the state,” she said.
Musk has been fascinated with the idea of a future civil war in Europe, and he has boosted right-wing politicians in various nations including Italy and the United Kingdom. Earlier this week, leaders in four European countries denounced Musk’s influence.
AfD’s rise is part of a wider surge for the far right across Europe, causing anxiety among opponents across the political spectrum. But it is felt particularly acutely in Germany, whose Nazi past of 80 years ago still looms large in the form of laws banning Holocaust denial, support of Hitler and swastikas.
Opponents of AfD find further evidence in rhetoric by leaders such as AfD co-founder Alexander Gauland, who was widely condemned in 2016 for comments about German soccer star Jérôme Boateng, who has a Ghanaian-born father. Germans “like him as a football player,” Gauland said. “But they don’t want to have a Boateng as their neighbor.”
Gauland has described the Nazi era as “just a speck of bird’s muck in more than 1,000 years of successful German history.”
And in 2017, regional leader Björn Höcke caused outrage when describing a planned Holocaust memorial in Berlin as a “memorial of shame.” Höcke was also fined 13,000 euros (around $13,400) last year for using the phrase “Alles für Deutschland,” meaning “Everything for Germany,” the well-known slogan of Hitler’s Brownshirt SA paramilitaries.