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YouTube 馬凱碩: 相信會有個仁慈的大國犧牲自己的利益來照顧你 將使國家陷入麻煩並捲入衝突中
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The United States, China, and the Future of the Global Order
Asia Society
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Orville Schell (夏偉) 知名的中國專家學者 立場則是對中國相較不友善
I'd like to ask you about is China is
not just another great power it is a
Marxist leninist regime that under Xi
Jinping has become very very different
than we experienced in the 80s even in
the 90s after the 1989 uh Beijing
Massacre and demonstrations and I think
that without factoring that element into
the
equation we can't just blly say China
wants to be a great power wants to trade
with everybody everybody wants to trade
with it because there is another element
in the
equation namely what China is after as a
new kind of techno autocracy in the
world and whether other countries feel
comfortable with that now we were
talking upstairs a bit about the
Philippines I watched the Philippines
extremely carefully because I see that
as a kind of a RoR scale I mean
southeast Asia fair enough Singapore
caught in the middle doesn't want to
have to choose Malaysia I get it but uh
I think we may be approaching a point
where it's going to be at least more
difficult if not impossible to stand in
the middle and I think we see in the
Philippines flickers of that recognition
now admitt the world is always in flux
so I'm curious to know how you view the
internal political shift in China where
it is returning to a much more uh sort
of maest mode not completely so and how
other countries the Comfort levels they
feel about accepting China's hegemony in
Asia if not in the world uh are you
comfortable with this I mean Singapore
is a small little
country how do you feel about that yes
you want to keep trading but there are
other factors here I think you have to
take into consideration
馬凱碩:
well first of all let me uh if you don't
mind quickly comment on the point you
raised
Rory uh when you mentioned that uh
countries are also moving closer to the
United States uh you're absolutely right
uh I want to emphasize also to avoid any
misunderstanding that there are huge
reservoirs of Goodwill globally towards
the United States and the world is
actually quite happy to see a strong
United States and a strong China and to
some extent if they balance each other
that's not too bad uh for the World At
Large so it's not as though the world is
rushing to embrace China and saying
goodbye America that's not the world the
world actually most countries in the
world as you yourself said oille want to
have good ties with with both United
States and China uh now in your in your
point about uh the
internal uh political makeup of China
and isn't China becoming more Marxist
leninist or communist and are we worried
about that and I think here I want to
emphasize that there is only one country
in the world uh that passes judgments on
the internal political systems of other
country it's a very exceptional
country and I think you all know of
American exceptionalism I can tell you
that you know the UN is not too far away
from here it's a mile or two away if you
walk into the United Nations you will
find that one of the most uh sacred
principles of the UN Charter uh which is
actually uh held to very strongly by
member states of the UN is that we will
not interfere in each other's Internal
Affairs that's ens Shrine in the UN
Charter and that principle is used by
Most states when they deal with each
other so the attitude of most states in
the world is you choose your form of
government no matter what you choose we
will deal with the government uh in in
power and so whether China is more
Marxist or less Marxist or Democratic or
undemocratic we can we cannot get to
choose it's up to the Chinese at the end
of day choose what kind of government
that they have but I do think also if if
I can or will push a little bit bit uh
back at
you you
know when United States first fell in
love with
China in in
1971 can I ask you who was the leader of
China at that
point was it
maong would you call maong a great
defender of Human
Rights would you say that he is this is
a man with a liberal mind a liberal
Spirit someone you can you know develop
a kinship with
you know what I'm getting at
right so when it comes to
geopolitics it's a very cruel
business ideology can be put aside when
necessary can be brought to the four
when necessary and even today if you say
that the United States will stand
up and stand up the Communist party's
regimes
why are you cultivating
Vietnam what's the
difference I mean is isn't doesn't
Vietnam also have a Communist party in
power so I'm only saying this because
the rest of the
world when I say that the rest of the
world has changed they've become much
more
sophisticated they see through all this
they see that yes there's a serious
geopolitical contest going on between
United States and China they are very
worried about it they want to maintain
good ties with both and they won't pass
judgment and it's not just to be fair
orille it's not just Singapore I can I
can give you if you want a list of 100
countries I can give you list of 100
countries that are in that position
Orville Schell 夏偉
nine US Presidential administrations
wholeheartedly supported engagement and
I take your point that you know we we
pick and choose CH who who who we oppose
and and but I I I think the the
difference is that uh Vietnam is not has
no sort of hegemonic pretenses in the
South China Sea is not in conflict over
the Saku is not competing with the
Philippines for second Thomas scha is
not threatening to to have some sort of
a Rec reunion with a forced reunion with
Taiwan and and of course I remind you
that uh we've had a little dust up in
India of late and the entire Aon natural
Pradesh in the Northeast territories is
claimed by China they have maps with
Chinese names on places that shoe is
going to drop so it isn't that just
China's a a nice little authoritarian
country wanting to trade with the rest
of the world it seems to me that what is
agitating the situation and making it
very difficult not just for the United
States but is China's pretentions to
rejuvenate in a way that has Global
aspirations first in Asia and possibly
elsewhere we don't know so I think that
you know this is a very much more
complicated thing than just China
rejuvenating and restoring itself to a
place of greatness it is reaching out in
ways which I think are very unsettling
for Southeast Asia and when I'm in
Singapore the thing that stuns me
is I understand Singapore's
situation but actually I mean I think
you singaporeans and I use you as a kind
of a metaphor for many people in
Southeast Asia do feel rather profoundly
comfortable with Americans and actually
many people feel rather uncomfortable
with China but it is the you don't want
to express it too loudly because you
don't want to rock the boat fair enough
I get it but I I would love to hear you
address what I think some would call
China's hedonic pretentions in Asia and
the D stabilizing effect of that
throughout the entire region
馬凱碩:
well I can assure you that um one lesson I learned
after studying geopolitics for about 50
years is that the concept of a
benevolent great power is an
oxymoron and there's no such thing as
the benevolent great power all great
Powers with without exception and this
has only been true for 4,000 years will
pursue their own
interests and we take it you know in you
know in geopolitics they are price
makers and price takers so United States
and China today are price makers we are
price takers and if we have any kind of
Illusion that there's a nice benevolent
cuddly great power they will look after
you and sacrifice his own interest then
you're in trouble
so you in geopolitics which is a very
cruel game and the countries that don't
understand geopolitics are the one that
get sucked into conflict and get sucked
into problems and here I want to add a
very important point because I think to
some extent uh or will you being unfair
to the Southeast Asian states there are
at the end of the day 660 million people
living in Southeast Asia there's about
the population of United States of
America and this region of the world I
want to emphasize is the most diverse
region of planet Earth out of 660
million
people 250 million are Muslims 150
million are Christian 150 million are
Buddhist Mahayana Buddhist hinayana
Buddhist taist confucianists Hindus and
as I told you we have lots of Communists
also in Southeast
Asia if there was one region on planet
Earth that should be destined for war
and conflict and the British describe it
as the Balkans of Asia that was soui
Asia now can you please ask yourself a
simple
question why have there been no major
Wars in Southeast Asia since 79 that's
44 45
years there is a hidden
genius in Southeast Asia in asan
we know how to manage
geopolitics we know how to adjust adapt
be
flexible we know how to maintain good
ties with United States and we do when
President Biden invites the 10 assian
leaders they come right and when
President she invites the 10 assian
leaders they go and when Prime Minister
alberi of Australia invites tasian
leaders they go so if you want to learn
if you want to enter a world in which
different cultures and
civilizations want to learn how to live
in peace with each other and can live in
peace with each other come to
usan come to Southeast Asia please don't
be condescending towards this
region this region has accomplish some
remarkable things that the whole world
can take lessons from and let lesson
number one learn from us how to avoid
Wars
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@hongdeli6148 3個月前
Orville Schell is the most idiotic one in the West due to his brain filled with inhuman stuff in beast concern.
@ganboonmeng5370 3個月前
Well I am Singaporean..and most older Singaporean with some wisdom...will tell you otherwise. ..we see America as the trouble maker
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@eng80425
3個月前
I live in SEA and I actually am rooting for China to win and be equal to USA. USA should not be the making the decision for the world and for us any more. If required, USA should be allowed to fade... I am actually not comfortable with USA... In fact I had never comprehend why gun control is so difficult when tiktok ban can move so fast.....Strict gun control saves lives..their priorities baffles me and I cannot trust a superpower who cannot seems to figure out what is important
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@ktleung2419
2個月前
Orville' couldn't let go of the American exceptionalism. He was naïve on world politics thinking that America means the world. Good on Kishore giving him a lecture.
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@atky7032
2個月前（修改過）
Thanks for inviting Orville to debate with Kishore. Orville's naive viewpoints have enabled Kishore to bring out the best of his wisdom when responding to ignorance. Answering questions calm and composed.
The best part: 'When 1.4 billion Chinese people decide to become prosperous, nothing can stop them.'
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@siokkimtan2020
3個月前
I am from MELAKA, Malaysia.
Since 15th century China already trade With Melaka. They never conquered us, only trade. BUT the west Portuguese, English and Dutch came with cannons to conquer us and said we belong to them. They each stayed for years.
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@poohbaby233
3個月前
I am from Taiwan. My view is can US stop interfering TW and China. Leave us alone!
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@PrimeroCanale
2個月前
All of the problems expressed by Orville, will go away when the US stays out of it.
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@user-eu3tm2iy7r
5天前（修改過）
Kishore Mahbuhani! WOW! What an incredible mind! The world needs more people like you.
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@bauyeung88
3個月前
As a HKer, I’m very happy seeing my country China stands up to challenge the Win/Lose strategy initiated by US. Btw, I’m proud to be a Chinese.
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@guyzer7006
3個月前
I’m amazed …who has military bases surrounding China…who is the aggressor..Orville is so out of touch..anyway Kishore has this covered!!
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@user-yw5wf6kz5t
2個月前
As a Singaporean, I am very comfortable to trade with China. Orville, don't put your words in my mouth, and please stay away from destabilizing our regional peace. I want peace and prosperity, that is what China brings to our table.
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@SH-np8hz
2個月前（修改過）
I am a proud S’porean. Great respect to Mr. Kishore. Next time pls invite someone who is competent or on par with Mr Kishore. Don’t waste his time. Mr. Kishore was calm and took the stage very well. Love his analogy of BOAT. Lastly, I have no problem dealing with China or any country.
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@songasalimsaleh1035
3個月前
Is the discussion all about the evils of China?
What about the evils of the USA?
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@yanmuikam6160
3個月前
Hi Mr. Orville you are very wrong about Singaporeans . Many of us Singaporeans feel that USA is a bully and love to " dip it's fingers into everyone's pie" so to speak. We want to trade and lead a peaceful life and not impose our wills on others . Please mind your business and may GOD bless you !
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@alexeyzayko3464
2個月前
I'm from Russia. Mr. Mahbubani please accept my deep respect. We have good diplomats but you outperform them evidently.
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@godzillamothra5983
2周前
Indonesian here, I watched what is happening in Ukraine with trepidation. This war should not have happened. I believe that NATO should be disbanded after the end of cold war and Warsaw pact was disbanded. Instead the US keep it going and expanding into Russia border. The consequence is what we are seeing is happening in Ukraine today.
Now, I'm also seeing that the US has intention to replay what is happening in Ukraine, in Asia. Despite some Asian countries having territorial disputes with China, the region was largely at peace for decades. Today, tension is so high, and in every hot zone, you could see the US hand in it. Like the Nancy Pelosi's ill advised visit to Taiwan, that created nothing but troubles. I could see war break out in the near future as long as countries in Asia keep letting the US provocations uncheck.
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@michaelloo8985
3個月前
Kishore is excellent.. can't say much about Orville who went off his supposed talk but just attacked venomously at Kishore for his rational and insightful views. Kishore is calm, elegant, composed and as usual brilliant in his reponse. Well done, Kishore
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@kaimingraymondchoi9909
3個月前
Always a great applause to Kishore. He speaks for 88% of the world population.
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@houm7571
2個月前
This dude isn't even on kishore's level. He not only systematically dismantled him but also schooled him on every single issue. Hands down sir.
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@VictorACYang
2個月前
If possible，I’d like Dr. Kishore to be the Secretary General of the UN. Perfect fit!
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@kamwong8118
3個月前
The scholarship and patience of Kishore put to shame the folly and bias of Orville.
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@marcs5117
3個月前
Im comfortable with Chinas rise…from the Philippines
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@mojazzz284
2個月前
Schnell, a China expert without having any clue about China
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@jameshack485
2個月前
Orville Schell is completely condescending when he speaks of China and Asia overall. He thinks with a 20th century mindset and is ill prepared for dealing with China in the 21st century. He is a caricature of the hot-headed American who acts before he thinks. A complete neocon who is overly confident of America's capabilities because our last wars have been victories against Iraq and Afghanistan. He should review America's massive failures in Asia during the Vietnam and Korean conflicts. I'm heartened to hear diplomats like Mr. Mahbubani who are much calmer and thoughtful in their speech. China is on the rise and there's not much America or the West can do about it.
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@user-ly7rp4il7m
3個月前
We are so proud of Kishore Mahbuhani not only as Singaporeans, but as world citizens.
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@dypk.2all
3個月前
Why doesn't Shnell talk about Okinawa, Chagos, Gracia Diego, Hawaii? Why the US comes all the way to South East Asia to tell Asean what they should or should not do? China is the largest exporter to the world. So isn't it China's interest to safeguard the waters in the South China Sea. Why has the Us poking its nose into the affairs of countries in the Far East?
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@lasercladjoe
2個月前
LONG LONG LIVE KISHORE MAHBUBANI
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@seeker2118
3個月前
Kishore Mabubani is one of the best most insightful geopolitical realist analyst. He has been predicting most of the events unfolding today.
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@gingermintrose
3個月前
Mr.Schell exhibits Western-biased narratives about China but is not apt to debate Mr. Muhabani. Thank you, Mr. Muhabani, for your cogent and realistic analysis outside Western media.
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@TheFantomRogue
2個月前
Kishmore is a LIVING LEGEND!!!!!!!
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@bobl9117
2個月前（修改過）
It is stunning how little Orville Schell had to say beyond judging China with ideology and how little self reflection on the US policy toward China. As a liberal writer who is supposed to know China better, he was completely destroyed by Kishore.
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@kpewliu4348
3個月前
Khishor is truly an excellent diplomat. He's able to tell the Americans: "South East Asians are not stupid, you fool", in a very polite acceptable way
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@jasmineloi7345
3個月前
As a Singaporean, I am so proud of my country and so proud of Kishore Mahbubani.
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@vamoua4036
2個月前
I believe that Xi is just one of the most patriotic person for his people for serving his country tirelessly since he was 18. All that he wants to do is to better his people but nothing is perfect and some people do get stepped on in the process, basically competitors.
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@iamthemedici
2個月前
The level of ignorance of the two Americans made me jaw drops many times
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@LanceyOwen
3個月前
The Orville guy is just a typical Anglo-Saxon "media" on China. Kishore is the only adult on the stage and he handled Orville beautifully.
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@wangchienlooi1288
3個月前
I am so very impressed that KISHORE is so comprehensive, consistent and clear in his thoughts on CHINA. He has articulated his answers simply and persuasively and has DEFINITELY left his mark on the INTERNATIONAL scene as arguably one of the BEST ASIAN thinkers spanning the 20th & 21st century!!!! He has done Spore PROUD.
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@chrisseanbala
2個月前
As a Singaporean and Asian I am proud that Kishore is providing a much more balanced perspective to this matter than the so called China expert who seems to be so clueless.
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@bummers
2個月前
As a Singaporean, I am very very comfortable with China and I am happy to express very loudly my dissatisfaction with US. Thanks but no thanks to US bullying Orville.
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@mkang666
3個月前（修改過）
Seeing how this American speaks make me understand why the US is declining. Blinded by arrogance and I am quite sure what is in their mind. If America goes down, make sure all others go along.
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@rinizhang6031
3個月前
As Singaporean , we are proud to have many leaders like Mr. Kishore. As for the west, the quality of the leader is so behind. Totally agreed with Mr Kishore.
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@kevinlin4895
2個月前
Oh man, what a beatdown. Schell comes in like a trash talking rookie who disrespectingly ignores the customary glove bump and starts throwing a flurry of jabs based on the usual US propaganda narrative. Kishore just calmly and effortlessly brush aside all those attacks and lands some monstrous hits.. "only one country that passes judgement on other's form of government".. a beautiful and glorious smackdown.
Wolf warrior diplomacy is basically China taking off the kids gloves and stop taking sh!t from the US. He has the galls of accusing China of aggression?!? China is not the one who goes around instigating coups, fomenting unrest, carrying out assassinations, and outright overthrowing sovereign governments that refuse to kowtow to US hegemony. And they never talk about the reason why China is resorting to the strategy in the South China Seas is because the US has gone on record talking about the strategy of militarizing the island chains and cutting off China's trade routes. "Perception of US containment?" Please.. what the US is doing right now with CHIPs and forming anti-China alliances like quad and aukus is nothing short of perpetrating a cold war
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@kttec4485
2個月前
So proud of KISHORE. Very wisdom, well analysed and explanation.
Applause to you
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@MKhan-sd7hu
3個月前
No doubt Sir Kishore is a master-class.
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@Ayangku2022
3個月前
Standing ovation for Sir Kishore Mahbubani! SE Asians are certainly not stupid
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@ashwindaftary4561
2個月前
The questions raised by the US expert on Geopolitics very much wonderfully answered by Mr. Kishore of Asean countries.
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@lvjinbin28
3個月前
Americans talk about issues in China or around China, do you see Chinese talk about Black Lives Matter, Cuba, Mexico?
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@elenadublin2
3個月前
Mr. Kishore Mahbubani is pure style and grace. There's no contest here.
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@erickylaw
2個月前
Does this guy know what happened to HK in 2019-2020? That is color revolution created by the USA.
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@Michael-nt5rp
2個月前
Professor Mahbubani is someone who combines the intellect of the West and the wisdom of the East!
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@user-db6iy7lm1v
3個月前
Prof. Kishore brilliant answers and rebuttal.
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@hansweissmann_xviii6754
3個月前
Just one question for Orville: name me a third nation other than Canada and Murica that abducted a top-level manager of a company without any charges. Murica did it to the French Alstom! Canada did it to Huawei!
What do those actions say about Canada and Murica?!
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@andycheng5639
2個月前
It is shocking to see that Orville is being a "China expert" for decades but yet he doesn't seem to know China at all.
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@TomW-ks3gp
2個月前
The host is great, Mz. Daniels. Mr. Mahbubani performed well. Orville Schell didn’t do his job. He didn’t use the chance to explain the standing, analyze the opponent, or the practical approach. He remained aggressive but unfortunately nothing more than a unprepared journalist. If USA relied on these kind of scholars for decision making, they need to rebuild the org and re-consider the decisions.
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@user-rd8zc8sr4r
2個月前
China was once the number one in the world like the United States is now, but in the past 4,000 years I have never seen China start a war around the world like the United States is now. From this perspective, the Chinese are the most peace-loving race. And..........I really sympathize with orville schell so much....his attitude to SouthEast Asia is full of condescending self-persuasion............
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@anandachong
3個月前
that american guy answered none of the questions raised to him but instead keeps demonizing China and tried to push Kishore to a corner of which Kishore was able to retort so well and eloquently.
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@tianlin4027
3個月前
Orville: Of what nation are you a citizen?
Kishore: Singapore.
Orville: Are you a citizen of another nation?
Kishore: No professor.
Orville: Have you applied a Chinese citizenship?
Kishore: Professor, I served my nation, Singapore. No, I did not.
Orville: Do you have a Singapore passport?
Kishore: Yes, professor. I served in Singapore government for more than 30 years.
Orville: Do you have any passports from other countries?
Kishore: No, professor.
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@tobyjackson1947
1個月前
She is an excellent moderator and asks great questions.
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@walking_luggage8105
2個月前（修改過）
Mr. Orville, please sort out your facts. The so-called Senkaku island is actually called the Diaoyu island, and it belongs to the Republic of China (AKA Taiwan), but it is occupied illegally by Japan.
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@NZkiwihaisun
3個月前
Orville just keeps accusing Kishore with west ignorance. He have not answered any question effectively yet. How he can be selected to have a debate with Kishore. He likes high school study pretending he knows something….
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@JamilAgrami-jh2zz
3個月前
The more I listen to t his discussion, the more I am convinced that Orville is completely lost in space.
Thanks to Dr Kushiro for making the discussion worth watching.
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@annafihoq72
3周前
So basically, he answered both of them and still came out on top. Respect, sir.... RESPECT
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@user-fu5ng2qi2d
3個月前
One is a intellect and the other is lost in space....floats from one anti China point to the next but does not have a comprehensive logical argument... It's really not fair to put this guy in the same room with a intellect.
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@TheTruth-88
3個月前
Uncle Kishore always amazed me.. wise man talking.. full of knowledge, no BS, straight forward, and very informative. Every young people need to listen to him. The white old guy definitely full of BS, full of hypocrisy.
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@ciarankelly4338
2個月前（修改過）
Enjoy listening to Mr Kishore and his calm,clear demeanour,as for Mr. Schell he claims to be a expert on China,he comes across as a China critic but respect both gentlemen point of view and worked in Asia for twelve years and so glad that I did as I had a blurred view of Asia and thankfully I have a balanced view now. Greetings from Ireland!
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@Lennyjana
2個月前（修改過）
I was born in Malaysia, as an Asian and live in Germany, I respect Pr, Kishore
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@sword7872
3個月前
I enjoyed this episode tremendously. It was kishore at his finest. Like a masterclass of how to school an arrogant condescending know it all with how little he did know. Thanks to Asia society - one of the best videos on geopolitics!
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@RohankrishnaB
3個月前
I am happy to see Asian superpowers! Its always good to have a counterbalance to western narrative on global issues
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@markuskoarmani1364
2個月前
China is a free trader and not a world conquer. The issue is USA, not China. USA makes it seem like its China issue and making conflicts between Asian nations with China as strategy. China can not have a trade with USD as it defeats the trade value on their ROI. Because China is the world exporter it needs fair trade value. That is to trade without USD for best benefit. However not using USD is the biggest threat to USA power.
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@pauloyih1
2個月前（修改過）
Dr. Mahbubani, Thank you for your vision and your grasp of the world ----
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@seemingen6790
3個月前（修改過）
thumbs up to Speaker Kishore Mahbubani and host Rorry Daniels.
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@Sy-wm9wq
3個月前
the world need more people like Kishore, listening to him can prevent war.
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@shendiyoung4044
2個月前
Kishore is lecturing Orville ! What a wisdom man !
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@jw7518
2個月前
Kishore is a very educated, wisdom and respectable man! I have to say this one more time.
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@ptan4120
3個月前（修改過）
Kishore is a gem of mankind and a beacon of humanity.
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@peacesoup1008
3個月前
Great push back, Kishore! And backed with truth, not insinuations and propaganda
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@yjia7396
2個月前
Mr Kishore Mahbubani's level is much more higher than Mr. Orville Schell's.
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@bo1724
2個月前
It is much more normal for the Chinese civilization to come back.
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@WilliamBenedict
3個月前
Mr. Kishore Mahbubani is very learned and speaks a lot of common sense. Thank you.
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@alvinchua9436
3個月前
Whenever Mr Kishore Mahbubani laughed, I find it so funny. Respect to him that he tried his best to answer to "silly" questions again and again so patiently. A true gentlemen.
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@chatreal7396
2個月前
BRAVO to Kishore provided intellectual views n great knowledge.
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@ericwkf10
2個月前
To America, they are the world. To the world, America is a country.
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@joy1ess
3個月前
kishore nailed it with the vietnam reference. if US had a problem with authoritarian regimes, why do they cozy up to saudi arabia? an absolute monarchy that has no democratically elected leadership and a country that forbids women from driving?
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@varivavariva6045
3個月前
The talk Host is really good . Unlike many other talk hosts on Asia Society, she was even handed, let the speakers talk and did not load her questions with anti-China narratives and fake information.
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@user-he4wk8xb2z
2個月前
看了這個視頻，我能理解為什麽新加坡可以保持長期的競爭力。 新加坡領導階層的格局和觀點非常的深刻，讓人敬佩
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@allenng2471
2個月前
Kishore is the most knowledgeable man in the world regarding world politics and non politics. His opponent Orville seems as a dumb political hack.
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@anitalofblom7271
3個月前
this American represents precisely why the world were at and are still at wars at this moment. He should not have been invited to the table. Kishore is however a speaker with great wisdom
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@dryeoh2023
3個月前
Kishore has my highest respect for being direct and impartial.
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@elangsharp3431
2周前
I aspire to have such wisdom that Prof. Kishore have.. Such a great thinker..
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@silvershsadow2045
7天前
Hey, I'm glad I found out, Kishore. Where has he been hiding. The world critically needs such insight and genuine, sober advisors today.
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@user-ep7dx1fp1v
3個月前
Prof. Kishore is the kind of person that get respect and admiration when he start talking.
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@holymackerel6200
3個月前
I've only watched about 30 minutes so far, but already I'm seeing what a good escape artist Orville is. When it's his turn, instead of answering the question directly put to him by the moderator, he focuses his guns on Kishore again and again. He throws his own question at Kishore without ever answering the moderator or expressing his own point of view. The art of deflection personified.
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@arienaidesho
2個月前
Appreciate Dr Kishore so much Singapore will be stronger and stronger
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@80sGuy.
2個月前
The guy on the right is a 'China expert'??? I think Mr Mahbubani is either being modest, or sarcastic.
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@hh8397
3個月前
Applause to Dr Kishore, as a Chinese from Hong Kong, and as a citizen of SE Asian. What I (we) personally experienced of all the chaos of the riots funded and instructed by US, most of us awaken as it hurt every single families so deeply. That craziness broke us all apart yet at the same time, we all got united because we learnt that we have strong and determined leaders to protect us from enemies!
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@Mercy99.
2個月前
很遺憾我想聽聽一個專門研究中國的學者在討論中美關係和未來經濟關係等等問題有些什麽樣的未來憧憬和見解，結果整個討論卻變成了充滿傲慢與偏見的狹隘的質問討伐中國。中國為很多貧困國家帶去了經濟融合，基礎建設，貿易合作，中國從來不會像美國一樣完全不考慮別國的人口數量，曆史問題以及國家國情然後告訴他們“哦親愛的你應該跟我們一樣民主自由”，美國自大的以為全世界應該都像美國一樣奉行那套虛假的戴著麵具的民主，從最近的以色列單方麵屠殺中就可以讓很多人看清了美國的嘴臉。中國從不幹涉別國的內政，一直講究合作共贏。相反美國，到底給別的國家帶去了什麽呢，中國的日漸強盛不像某些國家是靠不停的發動戰爭謀取利益來強壯自身，也無法像某些霸權國家一樣在經濟糟糕的時候隻要不停的印鈔票通過讓全球買單來緩解自己的處境。今天中國能和美國在同一張桌子上吃飯是靠自己通過合作通過發展通過不停鞭策進步自己才有了這樣的機會。世界都感受到了中國飛速的進步，隻有某些國家還沉浸在自己是世界主宰者的美夢裏，實事上中國也從來沒有想過坐上“世界老大”的寶座，請直麵中國變得強大了，和諧友善通過合作共贏一起發展經濟的方式來相處，而不是想方設法通過製裁打壓，挑撥離間他國，幹涉中國內政來抹黑造謠中國，如果是這樣美國永遠也不會成功！不要帶著有色眼鏡先入為主的看一個國家，不要沉浸在盎格魯撒克遜媒體的信息繭房裏。中國從來不是一個完美的國家，任何國家都不是完美的國家，但中國一直在不停的完善自己，作為一個中國人，我很驕傲我的國家變的越來越好，我也很慶幸我的國家有習近平這樣一個領導。
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@wyphonema4024
3個月前
I am from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
Since 15th century China already trade With Melaka. They never conquered us, only trade. BUT the west Portuguese, English and Dutch came with cannons to conquer us and said we belong to them. They each stayed for years.
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@BH-2
3周前
It's interesting how Orville Schell avoided giving his opening position and started on the attack. Kishore Mahbubani spoke with facts, data and logic - very refreshing to hear.
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@baaronlong5988
2個月前
This great discuss is right as Mr. Kishore said, the US is too arrogant to deal with other countries. US always say it like or dislike some country, and if some of them are too disliked, they will try to defeat/overturn/sanction/destroy it. So obviously Orville or the USA very dislike China/Communism/Xi Jinping, and want to defeat/overturn/sanction/destroy, but unluckily they can't do by themselves, so they are pushing SEA countries to help on it. That's too obvious. These two man, one is arrogant amd stupid, one is full of wisdom and persuading.
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@briancousins3101
3個月前
Orville says "we know what happened in Hong Kong". He either does not know, or feigns ignorance, about the treaty with the British and the HK activities of the US Congress-funded NED & CIA.
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@Orwellian-Purple-Grapes-1984
3個月前
I only came here for Kishore and having heard the entire discussion, it's obvious to me that he was the only one worth listening to.
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@gnkira
2個月前
well said prof. kishore, wishing from malaysia !
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@JenHope883
2個月前
Thank you prof Kishore for your valuable time in explaining the geopolitical affairs.
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@jamessethi5792
3個月前
It's a joy to listen to Kishore Mahubani we need people like him in power.
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@nizicike759
3個月前
Kishore is treasure that for mankind
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@jimmylim8369
2個月前
I am lucky to watch this Link, have learned a lot and have myself be well informed.
