mapletea2017-08-21 04:01:41回複悄悄話
@nightrider: It is undeniable the left initiated the violence. They violated the law. They are in the wrong. It is that simple.
The irony is that your fact is your illusion. The public arrest records show that all the 6 arrested in Charlottesville, VA on August 12 are white supremacist protesters including the one who drove the car and killed one protesters.
nightrider2017-08-20 23:54:31回複悄悄話
@mapletea:
It is irrelevant who is the righteous one, as everyone thinks they are righteous. Even being righteous does not give a license to initiate violence. In fact, whoever initiate violence looses righteousness right there and then. It is undeniable the left initiated the violence. They violated the law. They are in the wrong. It is that simple.
首先B不應該去動曆史人物的雕像,錯在先,白人為維護自己先人的雕像舉行和平示威遊行沒有什麽不對!反示威者衝擊正常示威又錯在先!支持作者支持川普的評論.
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The irony is that your fact is your illusion. The public arrest records show that all the 6 arrested in Charlottesville, VA on August 12 are white supremacist protesters including the one who drove the car and killed one protesters.
It is irrelevant who is the righteous one, as everyone thinks they are righteous. Even being righteous does not give a license to initiate violence. In fact, whoever initiate violence looses righteousness right there and then. It is undeniable the left initiated the violence. They violated the law. They are in the wrong. It is that simple.
你舉的例子完全不搭界。比較靠譜的是你聽說某處有地痞街拍裙底,然後帶上壘球棒去阻止。而且是你先動手,或是對方中某人先動手,然後你們一群人(人多)一起上,混戰一場。
你不是警察,沒有權利去用暴力阻止那些“地痞”。
一句話,誰先動手就抓誰,管你是誰。我希望我們在這點上有共識。但是即使沒有共識也無妨。我說明了我的觀點,你闡述了你的觀點。沒有必要一定要說服對方。這就已經是很好的交流了。
零不是數 發表評論於 2017-08-20 10:09:15
本期第34/35兩頁的照片,說明是:counterprotesters beat protester in Charlottesvill. 打誰的嘴巴不明白。隻是提供反示威者有暴力的證明。連左派的雜誌都無法否認。
別嘰嘰歪歪的,這幾天極右組織正在美國各地組織遊行呢。倒要看看,有多少華人敢去參加他們。
mapletea 發表評論於 2017-08-20 08:37:56
左派周刊應該支持反對派啊,登出你說的“反對派用壘球棒毆打種族主義者的照片”,那不是自打嘴巴嗎。我敢肯定你不是裝傻,你是真傻:-)
mapletea 發表評論於 2017-08-20 08:37:56
左派周刊應該支持反對派啊,登出你說的“反對派用壘球棒毆打種族主義者的照片”,那不是自打嘴巴嗎。我敢肯定你不是裝傻,你是真傻:-)
裝傻還是真傻?看看本期時代周刊(左派),裏麵有反對派用壘球棒毆打種族主義者的照片。 隻有開車撞人才叫暴力?你的眼睛是什麽顏色的?雙方混戰,隻有一方用暴力?
mapletea 發表評論於 2017-08-19 20:08:11
作者說反種族主義的使用了暴力?什麽樣的暴力?能具體一些嗎?比如,反種族主義的人開車衝入人群撞死行人?
裝傻還是真傻?看看本期時代周刊(左派),裏麵有反對派用壘球棒毆打種族主義者的照片。 隻有開車撞人才叫暴力?你的眼睛是什麽顏色的?雙方混戰,隻有一方用暴力?
mapletea 發表評論於 2017-08-19 20:08:11
作者說反種族主義的使用了暴力?什麽樣的暴力?能具體一些嗎?比如,反種族主義的人開車衝入人群撞死行人?
一句話,任何人不能因其動機高尚就可隨意攻擊他人,傷害他人。動機邪惡的就更不能有暴力了。
“你去抗議拆除雕塑,然後你帶上KKK和納粹的旗幟,這不是等於從監獄裏找個強奸犯,去參見維護婦女利益的遊行嗎?
如果監獄裏跑出來的強奸犯和人打起來,誰會同情那個強奸犯?維護婦女權益,你強奸犯瞎攙和什麽"?
反納粹3k黨人士暴力反擊, 手段錯,道義對。
這就是兩者的差別。