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Trump campaign asks Capitol Hill for backing in Khan controversy
By Richard Cowan and David Morgan,Reuters 1 hour 55 minutes ago
By Richard Cowan and David Morgan
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump's campaign appealed to Capitol Hill for support on Monday as his attacks on the Muslim parents of a decorated U.S. soldier killed in Iraq drew sharp rebukes from fellow party members.
Trump's criticism of Khizr Khan and Ghazala Khan, who took the stage at last week's Democratic convention, sparked a growing wave of concern and dismay from Republican lawmakers responding to the latest Trump outburst to blindside his party colleagues.
Republican Senator John McCain, a former prisoner of war and the most prominent veteran in Congress, along with the commander of the Veterans of Foreign Wars, joined the chorus of condemnation, reflecting the highly regarded place the military and its veterans hold with many in the United States.
Trump's dispute with the Khans has dominated the White House campaign in recent days and underlined the uneasy alliance between many leading Republicans and the party's freewheeling, unorthodox nominee for the Nov. 8 election.
Rob Wasinger, a onetime congressional candidate who has been working for the Trump camp on congressional outreach, sent an email to senior Senate aides saying, "We want to get several member statements out today on this, and would really appreciate your help."
A similar appeal was made to Republicans in the House of Representatives, according to a senior aide.
Attached to the appeal were talking points lawmakers could use to try to tamp down the controversy growing since last week's appearance at the Democratic convention by the Khans, the parents of U.S. Army Captain Humayun Khan, who was killed by a bomb in Iraq 12 years ago.
The Trump campaign did not respond to requests for comment, and Wasinger refused to comment when contacted by telephone.
A senior Senate Republican aide, who asked not to be identified, said Republican senators were pleased with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's statement on Sunday calling Captain Khan "an American hero" and noting "a travel ban on all members of a religion is simply contrary to American values."
At the same time, the aide said the controversy would probably not cause Republican senators to withdraw their endorsements of Trump.
In his convention speech delivered with his wife at his side, Khizr Khan showcased his son's military service and criticized Trump's call for a temporary ban on Muslims from entering the United States, holding up a copy of the U.S. Constitution and suggesting Trump read it.
Since then, Trump has complained he was "viciously" attacked by the couple and suggested Ghazala Khan might not have been "allowed" to speak, implying her silence reflected restrictions placed on women by some traditional Muslims.
McCain, the 2008 Republican presidential candidate and current chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, issued a lengthy statement sharply criticizing Trump's comments.
"While our party has bestowed upon him the nomination, it is not accompanied by unfettered license to defame those who are the best among us," said McCain, a prisoner of war for five years during the Vietnam War.
His counterpart on the House Armed Services Committee, Representative Mac Thornberry of Texas, echoed McCain, saying in a statement that he was "dismayed at the attacks Khizr and Ghazala Khan have endured after they spoke about their son's service and sacrifice."
The head of the 1.7 million-member Veterans of Foreign Wars also said Trump's attack on the Khans went too far. Trump and Clinton spoke to the group's national convention last week.
'NO TOLERANCE'
"Election year or not, the VFW will not tolerate anyone berating a Gold Star family member for exercising his or her right of speech or expression," said Brian Duffy, the national commander of the country's oldest and largest war veterans organization, referring to families who have lost relatives in wars.
In the talking points sent to lawmakers, the Trump campaign said he had been asked about the Khans' comments during the convention and wished them well. The talking points also noted that Trump "wants to end radical Islamic terror, so that our soldiers like Mr. Khan's son will be safe."
The list also says Trump had not directly compared his sacrifices to the Khans. Trump said over the weekend he had also made sacrifices in his life by working hard, creating jobs and being successful.
The Khans bristled at that suggestion and, in numerous television appearances over the weekend, said Trump was ignorant about Islam and about their family's sacrifice.
Trump's off-the-cuff insults and controversial proposals such as the Muslim ban and a plan to keep illegal immigrants out by building a wall along the Mexican border, have made many in the party establishment reluctant backers of his White House bid.
In his statement, McCain recalled how Humayun Khan died, saying that when a suicide bomber aimed his vehicle toward a building housing hundreds of U.S. soldiers, the captain told his subordinates to stay away, then ran toward it.
McCain thanked the Khans for coming to America, saying "your son was the best of America, and the memory of his sacrifice will make us a better nation – and he will never be forgotten."
In a remarks to television networks on Monday, Khizr Khan said Trump lacked the empathy to be a leader and chided him for throwing the first salvo in their exchange.
Asked on CNN what message he could give Trump, the father said he wanted to maintain his family's dignity and convey to Trump "that a good leader has one trait ... empathy."
"It is basic character, realizing, feeling the pains, the difficulties of the people that you wish to lead," Khan said. "And that is missing."
Trump has tried to shift focus from the Khans.
"This story is not about Mr. Khan, who is all over the place doing interviews, but rather RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISM and the U.S. Get smart!" Trump said Monday on Twitter.
Ghazala Khan wrote an opinion piece in The Washington Post on Sunday saying that she had remained silent during her husband's remarks to cope with making her grief public during the convention.
On Sunday, Democratic rival Hillary Clinton said Trump had scapegoated the parents. In addition to Senate Majority Leader McConnell, House Speaker Paul Ryan issued a statement supporting the family.
Trump drew similar opprobrium a year ago when he said McCain, who as a naval aviator was shot down and taken prisoner during the Vietnam War, was not a hero because he had been captured.
In an open letter, 23 Gold Star families said Trump cheapened their sacrifice and called for an apology.
"This goes beyond politics. It is about a sense of decency," it said. "That kind decency you mock as 'political correctness.'"
(Additional reporting by Susan Heavey, Doina Chiacu and Patricia Zengerle; Editing by Frances Kerry and Jonathan Oatis)
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Donald Trump rages against CNN after Fareed Zakaria calls him a 'BS artist' on air
Dylan Stableford 1 hour 30 minutes ago
With the controversy surrounding his attacks on the parents of a slain Muslim American soldier swirling all around him, Donald Trump on Monday focused his complaints on CNN’s coverage of the presidential race.
“You look at CNN. It’s called the ‘Clinton News Network,’” Trump said at a town hall in Columbus, Ohio. “All day long: ‘Trump. Trump.’ All day long, CNN: ‘Trump. Trump. Trump.’ Such a bad guy, I just want to bring back your jobs. I want to bring back your safety, because we’re not safe.”
The Republican nominee began his critique of the cable news network in a flurry of Twitter posts.
“CNN will soon be the least trusted name in news if they continue to be the press shop for Hillary Clinton,” Trump tweeted early Monday afternoon, a few hours before the event. “CNN anchors are completely out of touch with everyday people worried about rising crime, failing schools and vanishing jobs.”
He didn’t stop there. He further accused CNN of not reporting stories that would be critical of his Democratic rival.
“When will we see stories from CNN on Clinton Foundation corruption and Hillary’s pay-for-play at State Department?” he tweeted. “Will CNN send its cameras to the border to show the massive unreported crisis now unfolding — or are they worried it will hurt Hillary?”
“The people who support Hillary sit behind CNN anchor chairs, or headline fundraisers — those disconnected from real life,” Trump continued.
That tweet was published shortly after Fareed Zakaria, host of CNN’s “Fareed Zakaria’s GPS,” ridiculed Trump for saying Russian President Vladimir Putin “is not going into Ukraine, you can mark it down,” despite the Russian annexation of Crimea in 2014. Trump later clarified that he meant Russia would not attempt such a move if he became president.
“There’s a pattern here,” Zakaria said. “Every time it is demonstrated that Donald Trump is plainly ignorant about some basic public policy issue, some well-known fact, he comes back with a certain bravado, and tries to explain it away with a tweet or a statement. … Usually he adds that the press hates him.”
“This is the mode of a bulls*** artist,” Zakaria said.
At the rally, Trump later returned to attacking CNN amid a tangent in which he also bashed the New York Times and Washington Post.
“I think their ratings are going to go down really sharply now,” the former “Celebrity Apprentice” host told the crowd. “They’ve been asking me to go on for months; I won’t do their shows. And the reason I won’t is because it’s so dishonest that, until they straighten up, I’m not doing their shows. And when people finally realized I’m not doing their shows, they stopped watching. That’s what happens.”
Trump, though, has not stopped.
Earlier Monday, Khizr and Ghazala Khan, the Gold Star parents who appeared onstage at last week’s Democratic National Convention, continued their criticism of Trump on several morning shows, including CNN’s “New Day.” And judging by the timing of this tweet, Trump was watching the Khans on CNN too.
“Mr. Khan, who does not know me, viciously attacked me from the stage of the DNC and is now all over T.V. doing the same,” he tweeted. “Nice!”
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In veiled hit on Trump, Obama says U.S. must honor Gold Star families
Olivier Knox 3 hours agoPresident Obama on Monday called for Americans to honor Gold Star families “and be humbled by them,” a veiled but unmistakable swing against Republican nominee Donald Trump’s attacks on the parents of a Muslim-American soldier killed in Iraq.
“Our Gold Star families have made a sacrifice that most of us cannot even begin to imagine,” Obama said in a speech to the National Convention of Disabled American Veterans in Atlanta. “We have to do everything we can for those families, and honor them, and be humbled by them.”
The president never named Trump, who has waged a bitter public feud with Khizr and Ghazala Khan. Their son Humayun, a 27-year-old Army captain, was killed by a car bomb in Iraq in 2004.
But Obama’s target was clear.
“No one has given more for our freedom and our security than our Gold Star families,” he said.
Obama also indirectly dinged Trump for speaking highly of the late Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein. Trump has praised Hussein for supposedly killing terrorists.
“To all of you who served in Iraq, we saw your heroism in pushing out a dictator whose brutality must be condemned, never praised,” Obama said.
The president also knocked Trump for refusing to say that he would meet America’s solemn commitment to come to the rescue of any NATO ally attacked by Russia.
“In the face of Russian aggression, we’re not going to turn our back to our allies in Europe. We’re going to stay united in NATO, which is the world’s strongest alliance,” he said.
President Obama speaks at the 95th National Convention of Disabled American Veterans, Aug. 1, 2016, in Atlanta. (Photo: Manuel Balce Ceneta/AP)
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Visitors honor fallen Muslim soldier Humayun Khan at Arlington
Michael Walsh 1 hour 41 minutes ago
The grave of a fallen Muslim American soldier has received many visitors since his father sang his praises at the Democratic National Convention last week.
Khizr Khan’s emotional speech struck a nerve with patriotic Americans on both sides of the proverbial aisle and compelled many to find U.S. Army Capt. Humayun Khan’s gravesite in Arlington National Cemetery outside Washington.
The tombstone has been adorned with flowers, letters and tiny American flags — all expressions of love and gratitude for the young man’s valor, patriotism and sacrifice. He died at the age of 27 while saving his fellow troops during the Iraq War in 2004.
On Thursday night in Philadelphia, Khan rebuked Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump for his comments on Muslims and his proposed ban on them entering the United States. If Trump had it his way, Khan said, his son never would have been allowed into the country.
“Have you ever been to Arlington Cemetery? Go look at the graves of the brave patriots who died defending America — you will see all faiths, genders and ethnicities,” Khan said to thunderous applause. “You have sacrificed nothing and no one.”
Jennifer Lynch, a public affairs officer at Arlington National Cemetery, said more than 400,000 people have been buried at the cemetery, which averages about 4 million visits each year.
“Everyone is a hero here, and we encourage people to come and visit all of the people that are buried here. Every one of them has a story of their sacrifice to the country,” she said in a phone interview with Yahoo News.
She said that the cemetery is “not a political place,” noting that campaigning and similar activities are prohibited.
Though Khan’s suggestion was for Trump to visit the military cemetery to better appreciate the diversity of men and women buried there, many others have heeded his call.
Trump did, however, respond to Khan’s accusation that he has not sacrificed anything.
“I think I’ve made a lot of sacrifices. I work very, very hard. I’ve created thousands and thousands of jobs, tens of thousands of jobs, built great structures. I’ve done, I’ve had tremendous success. I think I’ve done a lot,” Trump said during an interview with George Stephanopoulos on ABC’s “This Week” that aired Sunday.
Khan, a Pakistani immigrant, had also suggested that Trump read the U.S. Constitution to learn about how it guarantees liberty and equal protection under the law for all Americans.
“You are asking Americans to trust you with their future: Let me ask you — have you even read the United States Constitution?” Khan said, while brandishing his pocket edition of the Constitution. “I will gladly lend you my copy!” (Sales of the Constitution skyrocketed as a result of this moment.)
Trump is accustomed to lashing out at his political opponents when he’s attacked, and his response this time around was not much different. Though he acknowledged that Capt. Humayun Khan was a hero, he also criticized and ridiculed his parents across several platforms.
“While I feel deeply for the loss of his son, Mr. Khan who has never met me, has no right to stand in front of millions of people and claim I have never read the Constitution, (which is false) and say many other inaccurate things,” Trump said in a statement Monday.
In the Stephanopoulos interview, Trump said Khan was “very emotional” and speculated that perhaps he would not allow his wife, Ghazala Khan, to speak at the convention.
“I saw him. He was, you know, very emotional and probably looked like a nice guy to me. His wife, if you look at his wife, she was standing there. She had nothing to say. She probably, maybe she wasn’t allowed to have anything to say. You tell me, but plenty of people have written that. She was extremely quiet. Looked like she had nothing to say. A lot of people have said that.”
In an op-ed for the Washington Post, Ghazala Khan responded to Trump by saying that her husband had asked if she wanted to speak during the convention, but she wouldn’t have been able to with the huge picture of their dead son displayed prominently on the stage.
“I cannot walk into a room with pictures of Humayun. For all these years, I haven’t been able to clean the closet where his things are — I had to ask my daughter-in-law to do it,” she wrote. “Walking onto the convention stage, with a huge picture of my son behind me, I could hardly control myself. What mother could? Donald Trump has children whom he loves. Does he really need to wonder why I did not speak?”
Other notable groups and politicians have also piled on Trump.
U.S. President Barack Obama on Monday called upon Americans to honor and be humbled by Gold Star families (those who lost a loved one while serving in the military) for making a sacrifice others could not imagine.
Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States (VFW), the nation’s largest major war veterans organization, released a statement saying that Trump was out of line for ridiculing a Gold Star mother.
“Election year or not, the VFW will not tolerate anyone berating a Gold Star family member for exercising his or her right of speech or expression,” VFW National Commander Brian Duffy said in a statement.
“There are certain sacrosanct subjects that no amount of wordsmithing can repair once crossed,” he continued. “Giving one’s life to nation is the greatest sacrifice, followed closely by all Gold Star families, who have a right to make their voices heard.”
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? 政治正確其實跟共產黨國家言論控製沒有什麽兩樣。 - 相對強度 - ♂ 給 相對強度 發送悄悄話 相對強度 的博客首頁 相對強度 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 08/01/2016 14:38:42
? 長篇雄文, 有理有據! - cowpi - ♂ 給 cowpi 發送悄悄話 cowpi 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (0 reads) 08/01/2016 14:49:08
? 其實我更覺得是光明派（會）而不是自由派在操縱、控製世界，英文名illuminati - Lucs - ♀ 給 Lucs 發送悄悄話 Lucs 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 08/01/2016 14:49:35
? 今天再次對床鋪這個大嘴刮目相看： 他竟然提出要和俄羅斯聯手， 就差說出聯俄製中了， 這個大嘴巴，真是啥都敢說 - zzwskh - ♂ 給 zzwskh 發送悄悄話 zzwskh 的個人群組 (175 bytes) (131 reads) 08/01/2016 14:22:51
? 他說了，可是怎麽做呢？基辛格已經分析過，遏製中國超過了美國的能力。不考慮自己怎麽發展，老想著給別人使絆子，美國經濟怎... - 薛成 - ♂ 給 薛成 發送悄悄話 薛成 的博客首頁 薛成 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (4 reads) 08/01/2016 14:29:03
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? 其實這個你真不用擔心， 現在隻是原油價格低， 汽油並不便宜， 說明煉油廠賺大了， 對美國來說，不管采油還是煉油都是... - zzwskh - ♂ 給 zzwskh 發送悄悄話 zzwskh 的個人群組 (501 bytes) (10 reads) 08/01/2016 14:42:04
? 今天原油價格低，中國石油公司可賠錢賠得厲害 - YY101 - ♂ 給 YY101 發送悄悄話 YY101 的博客首頁 YY101 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (2 reads) 08/01/2016 14:45:39
? 那沒辦法， 誰讓他們在石油高位的時吸進了呢？ 不過隻要挺住別破產， 早晚有撈回來的時候，股市永遠是這樣，... - zzwskh - ♂ 給 zzwskh 發送悄悄話 zzwskh 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (0 reads) 08/01/2016 14:47:14
? That was my prediction long ago. - ZoyaWashington - ♀ 給 ZoyaWashington 發送悄悄話 ZoyaWashington 的個人群組 (182 bytes) (11 reads) 08/01/2016 14:36:28
? 前些天的記者會記者一問俄羅斯，他急了馬上就把中國扔出來，說可能是中國或者其他國家幹的 - 霍人 - ♂ 給 霍人 發送悄悄話 霍人 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 08/01/2016 14:39:15
? 牛！ 你可以做西拉裏的外交顧問了 - zzwskh - ♂ 給 zzwskh 發送悄悄話 zzwskh 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 08/01/2016 14:43:05
? 也可能他比希拉裏更想改變國際秩序。三國博弈搞聯俄抗中？中國被抬舉了，居然要兩個超級大國聯合對抗了？ - 薛成 - ♂ 給 薛成 發送悄悄話 薛成 的博客首頁 薛成 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (2 reads) 08/01/2016 14:42:55
? 你打開CNN 看看就知道了， 床鋪真的是這個意思。 他說人人都知道不能讓中俄聯手， 可是奧巴馬做到了， 哈哈床鋪太聰明... - zzwskh - ♂ 給 zzwskh 發送悄悄話 zzwskh 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (3 reads) 08/01/2016 14:45:46
? 性情中人，比滿嘴謊言的劊子手希拉裏強多了。 - 一線天際 - ♀ 給 一線天際 發送悄悄話 一線天際 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 08/01/2016 14:48:58
? 這可不是性情的問題，這是真正看懂了國際大勢，俄羅斯其實並不可怕， 可怕的是一個有14億任勞任怨， 不屈不撓，悶頭拉... - zzwskh - ♂ 給 zzwskh 發送悄悄話 zzwskh 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (0 reads) 08/01/2016 14:52:29
? 在中國，辱罵服務員是司空見慣的。欺負比自己弱的也是常態，不知道有些人為什麽視而不見，一批評就跳出來辯護，扣帽子。 - 白雲青山 - ♂ 給 白雲青山 發送悄悄話 白雲青山 的博客首頁 白雲青山 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (56 reads) 08/01/2016 14:20:54
? Bill Clinton 的經濟政策與經濟成就 - TJKCB - ♀ 給 TJKCB 發送悄悄話 TJKCB 的博客首頁 TJKCB 的個人群組 (54591 bytes) (128 reads) 08/01/2016 13:54:25
? 克林頓時期可能是美國最繁榮的時期。那時候好像根本就沒有失業率的問題。 - 薛成 - ♂ 給 薛成 發送悄悄話 薛成 的博客首頁 薛成 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (2 reads) 08/01/2016 13:56:56
? 泡沫破時的慘狀不少人也都經曆過. - joytiggers - ♀ 給 joytiggers 發送悄悄話 joytiggers 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (2 reads) 08/01/2016 14:00:22
? 泡沫破時美國還沒有傷筋動骨，真正使美國傷筋動骨的是伊拉克和阿富汗兩場戰爭，把國家消耗空了。希拉裏再搞什麽戰... - 薛成 - ♂ 給 薛成 發送悄悄話 薛成 的博客首頁 薛成 的個人群組 (110 bytes) (25 reads) 08/01/2016 14:09:13
? 真正傷筋動骨的是房地產泡沫，金融危機，和現在的過度流動性 - tibuko - ♂ 給 tibuko 發送悄悄話 tibuko 的博客首頁 tibuko 的個人群組 (158 bytes) (4 reads) 08/01/2016 14:41:33
? 認為Trump的經濟政策會使美國經濟大好的請進 - 歡顏展卷林中坐 - ♂ 給 歡顏展卷林中坐 發送悄悄話 歡顏展卷林中坐 的博客首頁 歡顏展卷林中坐 的個人群組 (687 bytes) (201 reads) 08/01/2016 13:47:19
? 理由已經說過100+遍了，左棍們聽不進去，對牛彈琴。 - kabab - ♂ 給 kabab 發送悄悄話 kabab 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (0 reads) 08/01/2016 13:52:37
? 他的最大功績看得到的就是阻止美國變成墨西哥,不讓20年後有六千萬老墨在這裏. - dedebo - ♂ 給 dedebo 發送悄悄話 dedebo 的博客首頁 dedebo 的個人群組 (33 bytes) (10 reads) 08/01/2016 13:56:08
? +1. 還有阻止進口大量穆斯林，加強反恐，讓美國更安全，防止美國變歐洲！ - JustAsked - ♀ 給 JustAsked 發送悄悄話 JustAsked 的博客首頁 JustAsked 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 08/01/2016 14:10:47
? 我會另外開帖談反移民反穆斯林。本帖談經濟。不是有人說中產不滿才是Trump的票源嘛?中產對經濟滿不滿意? - 歡顏展卷林中坐 - ♂ 給 歡顏展卷林中坐 發送悄悄話 歡顏展卷林中坐 的博客首頁 歡顏展卷林中坐 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 08/01/2016 14:20:30
? 樓主文的是經濟政策，你們都答得是移民政策，所答非所問。 - 區分大小寫已經存在 - ♂ 給 區分大小寫已經存在 發送悄悄話 區分大小寫已經存在 的博客首頁 區分大小寫已經存在 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (0 reads) 08/01/2016 14:53:38
? 從床鋪的觀點看，他將結束全球一體化經濟。不過，我沒有看到這對美國經濟有什麽大好處。 - 薛成 - ♂ 給 薛成 發送悄悄話 薛成 的博客首頁 薛成 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (3 reads) 08/01/2016 13:59:29
? 如果終結國際化是目標，桑德斯才是真正會讓改變發生的選擇，其他兩個富豪不可信。 - 霍人 - ♂ 給 霍人 發送悄悄話 霍人 的個人群組 (263 bytes) (11 reads) 08/01/2016 14:07:02
? 別提桑德斯，他的支持者以年輕人為主，包括我的孩子。我前幾天還說，美國的大學怎麽培養出個社會主義者來了。當年... - 薛成 - ♂ 給 薛成 發送悄悄話 薛成 的博客首頁 薛成 的個人群組 (447 bytes) (35 reads) 08/01/2016 14:14:47
? 我們沒你們上一代那麽文革思維一根筋，人類社會變得更文明誰也難不住。 - 霍人 - ♂ 給 霍人 發送悄悄話 霍人 的個人群組 (293 bytes) (9 reads) 08/01/2016 14:24:21
? 美國的大學培養年輕人有關懷他人的理想。這是美國與其他國家不同的地方。中國的「社會主義」是靠暴力與謊言... - 歡顏展卷林中坐 - ♂ 給 歡顏展卷林中坐 發送悄悄話 歡顏展卷林中坐 的博客首頁 歡顏展卷林中坐 的個人群組 (113 bytes) (10 reads) 08/01/2016 14:24:45
? 公益心在傳統中國社會是非常缺乏的，以前是家天下，政治不關小民的事。孫文提出“天下為公”非常了不起... - 霍人 - ♂ 給 霍人 發送悄悄話 霍人 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 08/01/2016 14:28:30
? “天下為公”出自《禮記》，“窮則獨善其身達則兼濟天下”出自《孟子》， - 區分大小寫已經存在 - ♂ 給 區分大小寫已經存在 發送悄悄話 區分大小寫已經存在 的博客首頁 區分大小寫已經存在 的個人群組 (227 bytes) (1 reads) 08/01/2016 14:51:16
? 中國仍然是專製體製，前三十年極左，後三十年極右。人民依舊不是國家政治的主人。 - 霍人 - ♂ 給 霍人 發送悄悄話 霍人 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 08/01/2016 14:33:49
? 從古到今，世界上什麽時候有過人民當家做主的國家，或者是部落？4年有張選票就等於你做主了嗎？ - 相對強度 - ♂ 給 相對強度 發送悄悄話 相對強度 的博客首頁 相對強度 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 08/01/2016 14:40:46
? 但你能說人類社會自原始社會沒發展，都一樣？政治體製屬於人類創造肯定有個過程 - 霍人 - ♂ 給 霍人 發送悄悄話 霍人 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (0 reads) 08/01/2016 14:44:53
? 文革前中國到處都是助人為樂的好人好事，是文革的階級鬥爭搞壞的。你們是帶有色眼鏡而已。 - 薛成 - ♂ 給 薛成 發送悄悄話 薛成 的博客首頁 薛成 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (2 reads) 08/01/2016 14:39:20
? 不是中國人怎麽樣，剛建國那時可能也算理想時代。人民權利有沒有體製上的保障才是關鍵。 - 霍人 - ♂ 給 霍人 發送悄悄話 霍人 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 08/01/2016 14:42:46
? 其實選總統，你就選看著誰順眼就選誰，沒有大錯的。當總統以後大局不會變。 - Jackwu - ♂ 給 Jackwu 發送悄悄話 Jackwu 的博客首頁 Jackwu 的個人群組 (215 bytes) (173 reads) 08/01/2016 13:30:50
? 你別把民主說的那麽不堪麽。 - 薛成 - ♂ 給 薛成 發送悄悄話 薛成 的博客首頁 薛成 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 08/01/2016 13:41:19
? Precisely. - ZoyaWashington - ♀ 給 ZoyaWashington 發送悄悄話 ZoyaWashington 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 08/01/2016 13:42:33
? 他最不讓人放心的地方恰恰就在於，他有強人傾向，與國會和司法對抗，會對三權分立的體製 - 霍人 - ♂ 給 霍人 發送悄悄話 霍人 的個人群組 (218 bytes) (6 reads) 08/01/2016 14:16:48
? 希拉裏攜搭檔現身關鍵搖擺州俄亥俄 展開民訪行程(組圖) - CFP - ♂ 給 CFP 發送悄悄話 CFP 的個人群組 (1873 bytes) (6406 reads) 08/01/2016 13:19:04
? 倫敦警長：遭恐襲是遲早的事 IS英籍娃娃兵隨時襲擊 - 光華日報 - ♂ 給 光華日報 發送悄悄話 光華日報 的個人群組 (4410 bytes) (6364 reads) 08/01/2016 13:18:16
? 床破與希拉裏 - YY101 - ♂ 給 YY101 發送悄悄話 YY101 的博客首頁 YY101 的個人群組 (1091 bytes) (546 reads) 08/01/2016 12:48:22
? 希特勒沒做過生意所以不知會不會也玩CH11 - 加共 - ♂ 給 加共 發送悄悄話 加共 的個人群組 (169 bytes) (22 reads) 08/01/2016 13:03:32
? 床破的資產 - YY101 - ♂ 給 YY101 發送悄悄話 YY101 的博客首頁 YY101 的個人群組 (1040 bytes) (71 reads) 08/01/2016 13:04:09
? 那TRUMP的房產管理公司哪？ - richman - ♂ 給 richman 發送悄悄話 richman 的博客首頁 richman 的個人群組 (246 bytes) (20 reads) 08/01/2016 13:13:43
? 花旗與大通哪個不是高檔銀行呢？破產麵前不分檔次。 - YY101 - ♂ 給 YY101 發送悄悄話 YY101 的博客首頁 YY101 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 08/01/2016 13:16:15
? Trump核心產業是PM，你可看到其核心產業有破產？赫赫 - richman - ♂ 給 richman 發送悄悄話 richman 的博客首頁 richman 的個人群組 (169 bytes) (23 reads) 08/01/2016 13:38:00
? 投資不可能每次都成功. 巴菲特也不可能. - cowpi - ♂ 給 cowpi 發送悄悄話 cowpi 的個人群組 (354 bytes) (28 reads) 08/01/2016 13:04:58
? 巴菲特投資不成功，損失的是投資者的錢 - YY101 - ♂ 給 YY101 發送悄悄話 YY101 的博客首頁 YY101 的個人群組 (110 bytes) (29 reads) 08/01/2016 13:07:29
? 我一直提這個，不能用商業手段治理國家，可惜床粉隻說他是合法的，看不到這兩者的區別。 - 薛成 - ♂ 給 薛成 發送悄悄話 薛成 的博客首頁 薛成 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (13 reads) 08/01/2016 13:10:23
? 老大爺中午要睡個覺要不然犯困. - cowpi - ♂ 給 cowpi 發送悄悄話 cowpi 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 08/01/2016 13:17:17
? 商業手段的是Clinton. 空手套白狼, 收錢收的手軟. 都是因為她品德高尚. - cowpi - ♂ 給 cowpi 發送悄悄話 cowpi 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (0 reads) 08/01/2016 13:29:01
? 你怎麽知道他是用商業手段來治國？發現你其實是隱藏得很深的左派。 True color exposed：－） - joytiggers - ♀ 給 joytiggers 發送悄悄話 joytiggers 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (2 reads) 08/01/2016 13:49:07
? 我不左，我對希拉裏的支持非法移民和同性戀就很不滿意。不過，那東西清清楚楚不用討論。 - 薛成 - ♂ 給 薛成 發送悄悄話 薛成 的博客首頁 薛成 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (3 reads) 08/01/2016 14:02:44
? 希拉裏是沒有底線的，隻要她能上位，任何話都能說，能不能做是另外一回事。 - YY101 - ♂ 給 YY101 發送悄悄話 YY101 的博客首頁 YY101 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (2 reads) 08/01/2016 14:07:09
? 我認為Clinton說的就是她想做的. 她要大赦非法移民, 破壞人口結構. - cowpi - ♂ 給 cowpi 發送悄悄話 cowpi 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 08/01/2016 14:12:06
? 你這個克林頓是比爾還是希拉裏？ - YY101 - ♂ 給 YY101 發送悄悄話 YY101 的博客首頁 YY101 的個人群組 (50 bytes) (4 reads) 08/01/2016 14:23:48
? "她"! 不明白為什麽都說希拉裏, 川普, 不說希拉裏, 唐納德, 和Clinton... - cowpi - ♂ 給 cowpi 發送悄悄話 cowpi 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (2 reads) 08/01/2016 14:39:21
? 你說將美國帶入20萬億債務時代是前無古人的偉大成功? - cowpi - ♂ 給 cowpi 發送悄悄話 cowpi 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (8 reads) 08/01/2016 13:15:46
? 有些沒有人提的美國曆史 - YY101 - ♂ 給 YY101 發送悄悄話 YY101 的博客首頁 YY101 的個人群組 (994 bytes) (22 reads) 08/01/2016 13:39:53
? 我沒錢就會節流. 而不是找理由. 自己 go high, 不帶老媽. - cowpi - ♂ 給 cowpi 發送悄悄話 cowpi 的個人群組 (224 bytes) (13 reads) 08/01/2016 13:44:27
? 如果你是Trump的合夥人, 你今天會很高興吧. - cowpi - ♂ 給 cowpi 發送悄悄話 cowpi 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (3 reads) 08/01/2016 13:19:31
? 說trump會貿然把國際貿易秩序全盤一鍋端了，那你太高估總統的能力了，且不說想trump這樣精於算計的商人根本就不會這樣做，就... - FastTurtle - ♂ 給 FastTurtle 發送悄悄話 FastTurtle 的博客首頁 FastTurtle 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (3 reads) 08/01/2016 13:22:47
? 他想，還有國會的關 - FastTurtle - ♂ 給 FastTurtle 發送悄悄話 FastTurtle 的博客首頁 FastTurtle 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (2 reads) 08/01/2016 13:23:26
? 這種比喻沒有任何道理，癡人說夢吧了 - happycow222 - ♂ 給 happycow222 發送悄悄話 happycow222 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 08/01/2016 13:42:59
? 先不論你的觀點對否。 一點區別， Trump 的business 養活了不少各個階層領paycheck 的人。 - joytiggers - ♀ 給 joytiggers 發送悄悄話 joytiggers 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (4 reads) 08/01/2016 13:56:37
? Hillary調查她用了700萬納稅人的錢，查完了她還沒事。 - JustAsked - ♀ 給 JustAsked 發送悄悄話 JustAsked 的博客首頁 JustAsked 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 08/01/2016 14:13:21
? 也許希拉裏養活的人更多 - YY101 - ♂ 給 YY101 發送悄悄話 YY101 的博客首頁 YY101 的個人群組 (266 bytes) (15 reads) 08/01/2016 14:19:56
? 納稅人的錢 - cowpi - ♂ 給 cowpi 發送悄悄話 cowpi 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (0 reads) 08/01/2016 14:52:44
? 中菲合併的可能性 中國應當歡迎菲律賓派代表談判，但不是談兩國海洋劃界和島嶼歸宿問題，而是談兩國合並或者菲律賓加入中國的可... - Waterinn - ♂ 給 Waterinn 發送悄悄話 Waterinn 的博客首頁 Waterinn 的個人群組 (1649 bytes) (298 reads) 08/01/2016 12:41:55
? 這個扯，美國全盛時期，菲律賓做為前殖民地都沒並過去，中國就算了吧 - FastTurtle - ♂ 給 FastTurtle 發送悄悄話 FastTurtle 的博客首頁 FastTurtle 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (0 reads) 08/01/2016 13:13:27
? 做夢吧？菲律賓是前美國殖民地，在美國勢力範圍內，哪能被土工收了？就是床鋪不搞政治正確也不會撒手啊。 - 薛成 - ♂ 給 薛成 發送悄悄話 薛成 的博客首頁 薛成 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (0 reads) 08/01/2016 13:15:46
? 中國如果政治穩定，法律健全，周邊小國早就加入了。現在這個這種局麵誰敢加入。 - Jackwu - ♂ 給 Jackwu 發送悄悄話 Jackwu 的博客首頁 Jackwu 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (0 reads) 08/01/2016 13:32:44
? 習近平已經定下調子，中國政府不會破壞現今的國際秩序。請不要再故意挑起事端，幹擾習近平的治國大計。 - happycow222 - ♂ 給 happycow222 發送悄悄話 happycow222 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (0 reads) 08/01/2016 13:44:43
? 好想法 - 比教授更牛 - ♂ 給 比教授更牛 發送悄悄話 比教授更牛 的博客首頁 比教授更牛 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (0 reads) 08/01/2016 14:16:20
? 有沒有數據可以說明, 華人有多少本來是加入民主黨或接近民主黨的,有多少是共和黨的. - dedebo - ♂ 給 dedebo 發送悄悄話 dedebo 的博客首頁 dedebo 的個人群組 (328 bytes) (342 reads) 08/01/2016 12:23:13
? 華人參選率本來就低，更不要說黨派 affiliation 了. - Warsteiner - ♂ 給 Warsteiner 發送悄悄話 Warsteiner 的博客首頁 Warsteiner 的個人群組 (248 bytes) (23 reads) 08/01/2016 12:31:04
? What is your definition of 華人? - ZoyaWashington - ♀ 給 ZoyaWashington 發送悄悄話 ZoyaWashington 的個人群組 (260 bytes) (25 reads) 08/01/2016 12:31:24
? 總的來講, 共和黨的門坎太高, 不象民主黨不管是爛民還是罪犯都要, 所以打人海戰 - dedebo - ♂ 給 dedebo 發送悄悄話 dedebo 的博客首頁 dedebo 的個人群組 (178 bytes) (16 reads) 08/01/2016 12:52:25
? Sorry answered the wrong post. - SwiperTheFox - ♂ 給 SwiperTheFox 發送悄悄話 SwiperTheFox 的博客首頁 SwiperTheFox 的個人群組 (412 bytes) (16 reads) 08/01/2016 12:58:17
? 沒有注意過是否有這樣的數據。大概印象是這樣的： - 區分大小寫已經存在 - ♂ 給 區分大小寫已經存在 發送悄悄話 區分大小寫已經存在 的博客首頁 區分大小寫已經存在 的個人群組 (680 bytes) (51 reads) 08/01/2016 12:59:44
? 有統計。上次大選70%以上美籍華人投民主黨。這次華人剛被選為民主黨副主席，或會有作用。 - 評民 - ♂ 給 評民 發送悄悄話 評民 的博客首頁 評民 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (5 reads) 08/01/2016 13:05:45
? 那麽有沒有人或機構可以測算, 這次華人有多大的比例 (當然要知道總人數的前提) - dedebo - ♂ 給 dedebo 發送悄悄話 dedebo 的博客首頁 dedebo 的個人群組 (27 bytes) (3 reads) 08/01/2016 13:12:37
? 華裔在全美人口比重不到1%（選民比例應更低）， 但在NY和CA應有所影響 - FastTurtle - ♂ 給 FastTurtle 發送悄悄話 FastTurtle 的博客首頁 FastTurtle 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (2 reads) 08/01/2016 13:14:52
? 聽說他要決戰CＡ，會慘敗嗎？ - dedebo - ♂ 給 dedebo 發送悄悄話 dedebo 的博客首頁 dedebo 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 08/01/2016 13:16:59
? CA機會不大，腦餐太多，NY有一搏 - FastTurtle - ♂ 給 FastTurtle 發送悄悄話 FastTurtle 的博客首頁 FastTurtle 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 08/01/2016 13:20:07
? 他該是決戰幾個搖擺州啊！紐約他是要死守的,明天他到ＶＡ - dedebo - ♂ 給 dedebo 發送悄悄話 dedebo 的博客首頁 dedebo 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 08/01/2016 13:24:40
? 不管選誰，參選總會顯示出參與政治的意願，肯定是好事。 - Warsteiner - ♂ 給 Warsteiner 發送悄悄話 Warsteiner 的博客首頁 Warsteiner 的個人群組 (587 bytes) (6 reads) 08/01/2016 13:21:18
? 華人在美國政黨的關係上更多地是和自身的現實生活相聯係，跟台灣大陸的關係不緊密 - FastTurtle - ♂ 給 FastTurtle 發送悄悄話 FastTurtle 的博客首頁 FastTurtle 的個人群組 (600 bytes) (25 reads) 08/01/2016 13:10:50
? 就我們這個壇看,大概是三分之二到四分之三吧，差不多嗎？ - dedebo - ♂ 給 dedebo 發送悄悄話 dedebo 的博客首頁 dedebo 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (2 reads) 08/01/2016 13:15:56
? 要是希婆上(可能性很大)，參院也淪陷，美國就是社會主義人民共和國了！不是嗎？ - dedebo - ♂ 給 dedebo 發送悄悄話 dedebo 的博客首頁 dedebo 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 08/01/2016 13:22:39
? 不見得，當年小克當選，丟掉了兩院，而他走相對中間路線，也做成一些事情。 - Warsteiner - ♂ 給 Warsteiner 發送悄悄話 Warsteiner 的博客首頁 Warsteiner 的個人群組 (317 bytes) (11 reads) 08/01/2016 13:26:51
? 可是要是參院丟了,希婆可以拉進好一個或更多的大法官,動不動就用行政令．沒人能製約她了. - dedebo - ♂ 給 dedebo 發送悄悄話 dedebo 的博客首頁 dedebo 的個人群組 (98 bytes) (6 reads) 08/01/2016 13:32:04
? 三德斯逼著希拉裏往左靠。 她算個center left還差不多。 - silverbug - ♀ 給 silverbug 發送悄悄話 silverbug 的博客首頁 silverbug 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (0 reads) 08/01/2016 13:32:48
? 我說的這個倒不是我的觀察，是台灣人的共和黨領導自己在報紙上的自述。 - 區分大小寫已經存在 - ♂ 給 區分大小寫已經存在 發送悄悄話 區分大小寫已經存在 的博客首頁 區分大小寫已經存在 的個人群組 (113 bytes) (13 reads) 08/01/2016 13:30:19
? How about Asian-American Voters? 民主黨73% vs. 共和黨26% - Chris20119 - ♂ 給 Chris20119 發送悄悄話 Chris20119 的個人群組 (353 bytes) (25 reads) 08/01/2016 13:23:25
? NPR左傾媒體，一般飄過就是了，當然想越南人裏，開BMW領救濟卷的還是不少的 - FastTurtle - ♂ 給 FastTurtle 發送悄悄話 FastTurtle 的博客首頁 FastTurtle 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (2 reads) 08/01/2016 13:30:53
? 共和黨高層到現在也不全力頂床,看來是"寧要國會,不要總統"的戰略了. - dedebo - ♂ 給 dedebo 發送悄悄話 dedebo 的博客首頁 dedebo 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 08/01/2016 13:36:35
? That is a pretty accurate report. - ZoyaWashington - ♀ 給 ZoyaWashington 發送悄悄話 ZoyaWashington 的個人群組 (261 bytes) (13 reads) 08/01/2016 13:38:50
? 行使公民權啊。 - silverbug - ♀ 給 silverbug 發送悄悄話 silverbug 的博客首頁 silverbug 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (0 reads) 08/01/2016 13:51:49
? Gallup: 亞裔美國人政治左傾: 民主黨61% vs. 共和黨24% - Chris20119 - ♂ 給 Chris20119 發送悄悄話 Chris20119 的個人群組 (282 bytes) (12 reads) 08/01/2016 13:40:09
? 說真的,本來民主黨是很合華人胃口的,拿福利是一個很主要的原因,這一次是民主黨要 - dedebo - ♂ 給 dedebo 發送悄悄話 dedebo 的博客首頁 dedebo 的個人群組 (116 bytes) (23 reads) 08/01/2016 13:47:40
? 我絕不會投票給希拉裏。 - Chris20119 - ♂ 給 Chris20119 發送悄悄話 Chris20119 的個人群組 (0 bytes) (2 reads) 08/01/2016 13:50:37
? 這是我通過穀歌搜索發現的: 關於華裔美國人的政治傾向(讀評論比較有意思。) - Chris20119 - ♂ 給 Chris20119 發送悄悄話 Chris20119 的個人群組 (229 bytes) (7 reads) 08/01/2016 14:31:54
? 總統和副總統候選人公開稅表是50年代尼克鬆做為副總統候選人時提出的 - FastTurtle - ♂ 給 FastTurtle 發送悄悄話 FastTurtle 的博客首頁 FastTurtle 的個人群組 (211 bytes) (266 reads) 08/01/2016 12:21:41
? He certainly doesn't have to--But - SwiperTheFox - ♂ 給 SwiperTheFox 發送悄悄話 SwiperTheFox 的博客首頁 SwiperTheFox 的個人群組 (280 bytes) (30 reads) 08/01/2016
