靈小抓2008-02-23 04:28:56回複悄悄話
What the xxxx did he sorry for?! He is an artist or entertainer. Why celebrities should have social responsibilities and be role models? Listening to his music, watching his movie, or just looking at his handsome pictures, that is it, that is all his values to me as an entertainer. Who cares if he likes taking sexual pictures. I do too, and videos. So what? Amy Winehouse's Back to Black is the only CD I bought in 2007. She is a drug addict, but I am listening to her music. I don't have the right to judge how she lives her life. Those stupid people offended by Edison's pictures, please just xxxx off and get a life. No one force you to pay attention to his personal life. And please don't use children as an excuse. It is too old. Children are parents' responsibilty since they choosed to give birth to their kids, not others.
mmkl662008-02-22 09:42:22回複悄悄話
thanks for your prompt replies.
But after reading your replies, I can only say 最勇敢的是能向小孩认错的人, 最懦弱的是死不认错的人
mmkl662008-02-22 09:16:10回複悄悄話
Sorry if you think that I am not respecting you. But I just want to quote an example that is close to what we are discussing.
As a Hongkongese, I feel a bit ashame for this drama. Not coz I like any one of the artist involved, it is the fact that how ppl handling the case.
Firstly ah gill and edison did make a public announcement for the incident and say sorry for that. But even a 3 years old child can notice that they are not speak for their hearts. That's mean they don't know their social responsibility as pop stars. It is obviously not good for the society as a whole.
Secondly, the way that HK police handled the case is also very bad and needness to point out the fact that the head of HK police is the classmate of Edison gf's relative Mr Yeung.
When I passed by and read your posts, frankly I think that you also overlook about the sense of social responsbility. So I registered to this site for the first time and reply to you. Sorry that if you are uneasy with my strong words.
mmkl662008-02-22 08:37:02回複悄悄話
Pls think in this way, he announced in English just because he is doing a show for ppl that he is going to please with (Hollywood). On the other hand, even such banana look down Chinese, I really hope that Chinese like you won't look down yourself as well.
Also he says sorry don't mean that he is speaking for his heart. Again he is just doing a show as he still to be exposed in public in future (no matter he is in HK or Hollywood as an artist or CEO)
On the other hand, some lawyers saying that his speech (speaking in a regret way) would help him to avoid potential claims from those who has suffered in such incident. Eventhough he is not intentionally to do so, those who has suffered could also claim for the damages from his careless act.
But the most important thing is about the sense of responsibility. When you are a public person, you should know that your act would affect more ppl than ordinary ppl (and sometimes the effect could be out of your imagination) so as a public person you should have extra responsbility to ensure yourself your act won't affect the society in a bad way.
Pls don't think US speaks for the world. In many developed countries, many of their govt officials had to resign from their position just coz of sex affairs.
Frankly many ppl view that the photos are not that errotic as compared with those professionally made. But why it draw so much attention? just coz they are taken by the pop stars! No matter he is intentionally or not to disclose the photos to the public, it is already his fault to affect the society in a bad way. So saying a sorry is minimum requirement. On the other hand, if your errotic naked photos are posted on your blog, I think you don't need to say sorry to the public but just to your families or bf. Why? just coz you are not a public person.
曆史是向前進的,而不是倒退,也不為人們所左右。 我們要適應社會的發展和改變,不管其有多少弊端,其最終是向好的方向發展。我們要平衡心態,客觀的待人處事,不能像九斤老太,覺得現在不如以前,把別人批的一無是處。 道德觀念隻是在波動罷了,我相信會慢慢提高的。精神上的信仰,人們還是有的。不管是信仰誰,最重要是要相信自己,做到問心無愧。It's not about you did everything right, it's about you did your best.
不2008-02-21 16:31:17回複悄悄話
For the police,it's the really beginning of the case.Everyone know time is very very important to settle the net 犯罪,though it's a bit late,we'd believe the ability,indenpence and profession of the police.
ketsbaia2008-02-21 15:30:17回複悄悄話
He is being paid by Chinese to behave to chinese's virtue. if he is earning his living in the States, that is another story.
moonwalker1232008-02-21 15:12:08回複悄悄話
Clinton is different, he's a married man in the powerful position as a president, and Monica was just an intern. They were not equal.
moonwalker1232008-02-21 14:54:21回複悄悄話
Those who stole the pictures are the real criminals.
CGX is single, the rest of the women were all single at the time they played. Every adult did that, and mostly enjoyed. As long CGX didn't intensionally release and post these photoes, he didn't violate any law.
Anyone who publicize other people's private photo without consent should be pursued.
ziyanbabe2008-02-21 14:40:08回複悄悄話
you are sooo right. It's really not that big of a deal! Edison had sex with some stars, so what? It's not like he raped them! I believe edison took those picture with the permission of the female stars. So, the female stars can't blame on him. Edison is one of the victim too. Those pictures are private, people who spread them is the one that need to be punished! And, I don't think this will be a bad influence on teenagers. Teenagers will just learn to respect other people's privacy, and to protect their own privacy.
balsam_pear_k2008-02-21 14:23:29回複悄悄話
do you still remember Janet Jackson? She is an american.
iii16820002008-02-21 14:22:12回複悄悄話
Those stars are too fake, we all should celebrate the mess the made, Great job, CGX! Those who published the photos were heroes. Let's all see how fake the stars are. There was nothing wrong they played sex and took photos, but it was definitely wrong the stars were/are checating the mass.
everafter2008-02-21 14:03:48回複悄悄話
agree with you. especially that old guy who has four wives, he has no rights to critisize Chen because himself is the one who use his money to give women shame. And China's governor had to accept his fourth wife, what a joke.
不想再討論這個話題,翻頁,翻頁。
我依然認為陳冠希有失誤沒錯誤。
如果非得換成社會責任的說法的話,另當別論。
歡迎您以後再來這裏做客,本人寫的都是即興隨筆,難免有措詞不夠嚴謹之處,請多多諒解。
But after reading your replies, I can only say 最勇敢的是能向小孩认错的人, 最懦弱的是死不认错的人
Good night!
演藝圈明星的特權,也是那些造星者,捧星者給與的。
若想讓所有的人懂得社會責任,當然不是從陳冠希東窗事發做起!
所以,有隱患的時候不注意,沉醉在一片歌舞升平中,待到眼睜睜看著著火以後,在去責怪失火的人,而真正的縱火犯?就是曾經縱容他們的人。
As a Hongkongese, I feel a bit ashame for this drama. Not coz I like any one of the artist involved, it is the fact that how ppl handling the case.
Firstly ah gill and edison did make a public announcement for the incident and say sorry for that. But even a 3 years old child can notice that they are not speak for their hearts. That's mean they don't know their social responsibility as pop stars. It is obviously not good for the society as a whole.
Secondly, the way that HK police handled the case is also very bad and needness to point out the fact that the head of HK police is the classmate of Edison gf's relative Mr Yeung.
When I passed by and read your posts, frankly I think that you also overlook about the sense of social responsbility. So I registered to this site for the first time and reply to you. Sorry that if you are uneasy with my strong words.
中國人,當然看得起自己,但在尊重別人的同時,是不是得讓別人先尊重自己!
否則,尊重就沒有了相對的意義,尊重也是一種互動。
Also he says sorry don't mean that he is speaking for his heart. Again he is just doing a show as he still to be exposed in public in future (no matter he is in HK or Hollywood as an artist or CEO)
On the other hand, some lawyers saying that his speech (speaking in a regret way) would help him to avoid potential claims from those who has suffered in such incident. Eventhough he is not intentionally to do so, those who has suffered could also claim for the damages from his careless act.
But the most important thing is about the sense of responsibility. When you are a public person, you should know that your act would affect more ppl than ordinary ppl (and sometimes the effect could be out of your imagination) so as a public person you should have extra responsbility to ensure yourself your act won't affect the society in a bad way.
Pls don't think US speaks for the world. In many developed countries, many of their govt officials had to resign from their position just coz of sex affairs.
Frankly many ppl view that the photos are not that errotic as compared with those professionally made. But why it draw so much attention? just coz they are taken by the pop stars! No matter he is intentionally or not to disclose the photos to the public, it is already his fault to affect the society in a bad way. So saying a sorry is minimum requirement. On the other hand, if your errotic naked photos are posted on your blog, I think you don't need to say sorry to the public but just to your families or bf. Why? just coz you are not a public person.
haha,我差點上了UFO的當了。7788520牛!~
那可能是我記錯了,打比方而已,要說因色下台的,還是中國最多。
他的錯是在性的問題上基本上是低級動物,作為高級動物的人情應該是性的usher,他就那麽多情?20多人呀,而且是那麽短的時間內。卷入這件事的女人都是和陳一人,加上現在的男朋友或丈夫也沒幾個人,本人就不作非議了。
電影明星嘛,沒看楊麗娟追星追到老爸都跳海了,陳冠希或許也有苦衷呢,娛樂圈本來就夠亂的,近朱者赤,近墨者黑,是非圈的情事誰能說得清,數量是大了點,年輕氣盛嘛,人不風流枉少年,問神探好。
沒人說做愛和自拍不對,他要負的是泄漏他人隱私的責任,連他自己都知道這是應該的,有什麽好討論的。過失泄漏和惡意散布,各是各的責任,過失罪也是罪,拜托稍微有點法律常識,不然有一天你也犯過失罪被逮了還問為什麽。
對自願被拍,不自願被公開隱私的那些女性道歉是最起碼的。
如果還有人特別是女人居然覺得道歉不應該,那也就不奇怪現在女性被如此不尊重了!因為有些人真的是沒有自尊,也就不被尊重!
女性首先是要自重,才能得到尊重。
我支持陳冠希對他的女性朋友說對不起或者進行精神上的補償,但是對於大眾,沒必要。
他真的無辜得無需道歉嗎?如果你的女兒(我們假設她不是明星)有一簍用過的衛生巾們,一般人會馬上在衛生間處理掉的東西,可正好她有一種私人的愛好,喜歡把它們存起來,還放在了書包裏,一天還帶到了學校禮堂。可是這天她遇上一個壞同學,楞是把她的私好當眾抖出來。好家夥!那些私好還不止屬於她本人的,還有一些貼上其它同學名字標簽的。(當然,我們盡可能要假設跟陳的遭遇類同)。 當然鄙人是不會給這種狀況貼上“金風”“玉露”之類美麗標簽的。因為它們的的確確不雅,不美(你其實有沒看過那些照片?)你以為你女兒的感覺會不會像你文章認為的那樣無辜, 那樣沒什麽可道歉的? 陳用英語在華人社會道歉是因為他深感尷尬和內疚, 還是有廉恥之心的。
-----------恭喜你,你的聯想力太豐富了,我真的無法回答,哈哈。
沒人說做愛和自拍不對,他要負的是泄漏他人隱私的責任,連他自己都知道這是應該的,有什麽好討論的。失罪泄漏和惡意散布,各是各的責任,過失罪也是罪。對自願被拍,不自願被公開隱私的那些女性道歉是最起碼的。
如果還有人特別是女人居然覺得道歉不應該,那也就不奇怪現在女性被如此不尊重了!因為有些人真的是沒有自尊!
失誤不等於錯誤,痛打落水狗不是人道的傳統,嘻嘻。
看一些人留言,真的哭笑不得,世上愚人怎麽那麽多?愚人們,好好的理理思路,看看到底誰該道歉,誰該被譴責,誰甚至應該付法律責任?
1,陳冠希是單身成年人,他可以和任何單身成年女人交往和做愛,這既不違法,也不違反道德(當然如果你要用什麽婚前不能有性行為這樣的道德標準,我無話可說)。
2,自拍,無論是發生在夫妻前,還是情侶前,隻要是雙方自願,這既不違法,也不違反道德。這屬於情趣,屬於隱私,應該被法律保護,不應該被窺視和暴露。
綜上,陳做愛和自拍,既不違法,也不違反道德(把過時的,無聊的道德標準放一邊),他無錯,也不用道歉。
真正有錯的,是把這些私人照片散布到網絡的人,不僅僅是錯,而是違法,應該被法律製裁。
幽默一下,08年初的大雪下的很黃,很暴力。
拍私人私密照又如何,私人習慣空間罷了。戀愛的男女做這些舉動,很天經地義啊。
明星也是人,不是和尚尼姑,不是聖人。他們娛樂了大眾之餘,私生活還要取悅於大眾?
私人生活,沒有妨礙其他人的生活,其他人就無權批評。
希望他下次千萬把自己的東西管好。
他要成商人,絕對是個啥都敢做的。。。
我是希望我這輩子都不會碰到這樣的人,這樣的人沒有自己的道德底線的。
曆史是向前進的,而不是倒退,也不為人們所左右。 我們要適應社會的發展和改變,不管其有多少弊端,其最終是向好的方向發展。我們要平衡心態,客觀的待人處事,不能像九斤老太,覺得現在不如以前,把別人批的一無是處。 道德觀念隻是在波動罷了,我相信會慢慢提高的。精神上的信仰,人們還是有的。不管是信仰誰,最重要是要相信自己,做到問心無愧。It's not about you did everything right, it's about you did your best.
回複加勒比女海盜的評論:
說CGX沒責任新加SB正是因為他是成年人.他自己也都承認了錯誤. 1. 向家人, 因為家人蒙受恥辱 2. 向受害者, 因為自己的疏忽造成了女朋友的損失. 3. 造成不良影響, 當然不是對那些喜歡看娛樂新聞的人而是對他們這些偶像失望的人,青少年首當其衝.
性教育不是通過porn pictures 進行的
海盜回答你----------
相信他承認錯誤是認真的,但是隻對和他相關的人,並不是大眾,就像任何一個孩子不想讓家人失望。
1. 向家人, 因為家人蒙受恥辱 ,給親人惹了麻煩,無論對錯,都是不應該,這是一種責任之談。
2. 向受害者, 因為自己的疏忽造成了女朋友的損失.
這是一種最典型的無奈,道歉,失誤不代表錯誤,如果他認真的是認錯,倒是顯示他謙虛赤誠的一麵了。
3. 造成不良影響, 當然不是對那些喜歡看娛樂新聞的人而是對他們這些偶像失望的人,青少年首當其衝.
他依然有對社會的責任感,畢竟那是不良影響。
4.性教育不是通過porn pictures 進行的,即便他的圖片做了性教育,也沒特別出格,畢竟比同性戀,SM,群居濫交要正常多了,如要雞蛋裏麵挑出人家性事的毛病,那我也不好多說。
網絡泛濫,色情泛濫,洪水猛獸,陳冠希背的黑鍋也是不是重了些?
說CGX沒責任新加SB正是因為他是成年人.他自己也都承認了錯誤. 1. 向家人, 因為家人蒙受恥辱 2. 向受害者, 因為自己的疏忽造成了女朋友的損失. 3. 造成不良影響, 當然不是對那些喜歡看娛樂新聞的人而是對他們這些偶像失望的人,青少年首當其衝.
性教育不是通過porn pictures 進行的
個人猜想,臨場發揮,或許有誤,但是,俺寫的隻是隨筆,沒想到會掀起如此大的波瀾。
暫且這樣比方,他講英文會更具有安全感,否則他也不會出了事立刻飛到大洋彼岸了。
理解俺的觀點,俺謝謝支持,不支持俺的看法,俺也認同,謝謝來這裏參觀,聽我胡言亂語。
畢竟俺不是寫的獨家專欄,不能保證言論都具有推敲性。
就算破案又如何?不過是一場笑料罷了,於事無補,造物弄人啊。
不去追究殺人的,反而追究製造武器的。
平心而論,我經常回國,但是走在街上,除了一些陌生之外,總有一些惶恐,一旦最熟悉的地方變成了最陌生,便真的有些多愁善感油然而發。
現在80後90後的思想,突飛猛進,或許比自以為曾經還挺新潮的我要豁達開放的多。
而所謂的傳統道德觀念,一再的被打破底線,早熟,早戀,同居,過早的性行為,墮胎,已經不再是稀奇的事情,搖頭丸,病毒,夜晚那虛無的霓虹燈下,迷失了靈魂比比皆是,而在娛樂圈,紙醉金迷的娛樂圈,誰能是永遠理智的?陳冠希是和幾位女星有性關係,但是總比那些為了權利和利益去潛規則的人高尚的多吧?他帥,多金,女子自然喜歡,不是指責女子虛榮,但凡女子,總有虛榮心的。他老成玩弄女星也好,少不經事也好,其實都不是最關鍵的,最關鍵的是,老一套不實用了,那道貌岸然的偽君子時代已經快被顛覆了,隻是有些人不願意承認罷了。
這個時代,與日劇新,雖然不敢說改朝換代,也麵目全非了。
是接受還是排斥,車輪滾滾,道德底線還能捍衛到什麽時候,精神上的信仰人們還在談嗎?
坦白的高尚的人。真正可惡的是那些偽君子和假道學,既要當**,又要裝聖人,古時的皇帝就是,自己六宮粉黛三千佳麗夜夜亂搞,卻不知羞恥地定出苛律酷刑去處死那些所謂淫亂的人。
鄙視那些道貌岸然,暗地偷窺的人!!!
整個裸照事件不就是一些人為了眼球而點擊出來的嗎?
樓主隻是客觀認為這件事沒有這麽嚴重。
把這件事搞得沸沸揚揚的反而是那些口誅筆伐的人。
糾著裸照不放的,心裏高尚不到哪裏去。
讚同你的觀點,因果報應,可取。
誰讓這個社會如此虛偽,都喜歡道貌岸然的偽君子!
回天天歡喜.我告訴你什麽是玩弄,"玩弄"除了是戲和耍之外,就是施展手段和伎倆.就是因為CGX利用自己的外表和多金才使得女藝人們"願打願挨",她們被玩弄的後果就是嘴裏含了顆吃不下又咽不下的苦果.
替天天歡喜說------被陳冠希外表和多金被迷惑欺騙的女星的苦果,可以不可以這樣說,有得到就有付出?可不可這樣認為,她們暫時得到了那外表和多金的時候,幸福告訴你了嘛?誰玩弄了誰?是外表和多金玩弄了女性,還是外表和多金被女性迷惑了,都說不準的,現在見了外表和多金,便不顧一切往上撲的女性,不在少數吧?
謝謝批評。
我以後再隨筆上每篇都得標上------以上純屬個人觀點。
吸引眼球和點擊,您還真說對了,盡管我寫的不怎麽樣,但是你不能要求我沒有上進心吧?
我從來不輕易說-----排泄物。
站在陳冠希旁邊出鏡?------本來我也挺上鏡,隨便別人怎麽看?
我寫了,你來了,也算緣分。
事實證明,文藝界就是那麽混亂,其中陰暗不是輿論可以阻止得了的。
如此自私的社會,誰會給誰交代?為情自殺的多了,到頭來還不是被人罵愚蠢?
主要的還是社會製度,法律體係,人類道德觀,包括文化取向的問題。
其實我真正憤慨的是,現在還有道德規範嗎?現在的道德規範是什麽?誰能說得清?社會的失衡,令人擔憂,甚至感覺沒有公平可言。
如果每個人都這樣,裸照事件根本鬧不起來
我願意說,你願聽,至於消化係統,我在自己家裏肆意胡為,你可是在大路上經過。。。
這件事大家都應該反省,散播照片的應該被對付,娛樂圈應該自我節製,崇拜偶像的應該清醒,父母應該教育孩子什麽是對錯,說大便臭的應該去聞聞自己的大便.
這些無論在道德層麵或法律層麵都是說不清道不明的問題,存在著截然相反的看法和做法。試看20年前被認為性犯罪而被槍決的案例,今天也可能隻視為道德問題,甚或道德問題也算不上。即使在今天,不久前曾有流鶯被遊街示眾,而演藝界的這種種性欲表演、貪官大款們包養的成堆情婦二奶恐怕比流鶯更讓衛道士們憤怒,究竟算不算犯罪呢?一邊被稱為娼妓而打入十八層地獄,一邊被稱為風流韻事而受到保護,不就是因為前者貧弱無依而後者有錢有勢嗎!
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"豔照門"的發生,象有的網友說的,是偶然也是必然,就是因為他亮麗的外表下有一個肮髒的靈魂,所以那位"奇拿"不發都不行,否則不是驚死就得憋死."豔照門"涉及的女藝人,有的已嫁為人妻,有的欲嫁人,CGX為什麽還要保留和她們做愛的照片?本身就說明了他的道德有問題,是個嚴重的性變態.這是他的錯之二.
"豔照門"事件的發生,也有好的一麵,那就是警醒了藝人,做為"公眾人物"因如何自律,不要表裏不一,再有就是防止了CGX玩弄和傷害更多的女藝人.
這些個藝人從社會得到了多少啊?!原來,這些個收獲是不用回報的,連最起碼的社會責任都是不用負的。
作為公眾人物,陳冠希的言行要有表率作用。他的行為客觀上來說對社會造成了不良影響。他是需要道歉的。如果你要反駁阿嬌,張柏芝不也沒有道歉嗎?所以陳冠希也不需要道歉。他道歉就是很好很誠懇。拜托!這個理由是站不住腳的。因為相片是從他這裏流出的。他拍了當然有責任保護好這些資料。資料是別人偷走的?為什麽不可能是在陳冠希的默許下copy走的?不是有傳過他用這些照片跟別人打賭嗎?當然謠傳不能當證據。但是警察都還在調查中,還沒有最終定論,樓主怎麽就可以這樣肯定地說“一個無辜的受害者,何錯之有”?沒錯,他是受害者之一,但他並不無辜。他最起碼有保管不善的責任,其他責任有沒有很難說,幕後的事情我們也無從知道的。而且事情一開始就馬上跑路躲起來,等阿嬌,張柏芝她們做炮灰,還正好等上肥肥去世,然後才回來道歉,還勞師動眾的。你要說他不需要向觀眾道歉,那香港人還要說為什麽要拿他們納稅人的錢去保護這種人呢!!!
他的行為影響了這麽多人,現在不就出來道個歉嗎?有什麽不應該的!你看,他就這樣出來隨便說一說,馬上就有這麽多人迫不及待,義憤填膺地跑出來幫他說話了。這世界上真是黑白顛倒了。弄清楚了,他說的是退出香港娛樂圈,沒說退出別的娛樂圈!他本來就是半退的狀態!況且退出娛樂圈再進入對他們來說還不是小菜一碟!做善事嗎?要複出的時候跑到某個節目上演出就好了。還可以大聲地說,是為了做善事呢!做善事也不可以麽?然後就重出江湖了。
他的道歉和演講,隻能說明他背後的公關危機處理的十分好,公司很有能力,這是阿嬌,張柏芝所不能比的。
再說,樓主動不動就上綱上線,什麽“何時日漸冷漠的國人竟然變得如此剛正不阿仗義直言了?”、“恥笑豔照門事件中的中國人是酸的”,真是讓人笑話!大家有不同的觀點,你覺得自己的正確,你怎麽知道陳冠希看了你這篇文章他會怎麽想?!怎麽還扯上所有中國人了??!!
“陳冠希的發言全部都是英文,可見他對國人的世俗的厭惡”、“更多的就是對國人世俗的蔑視,所以他講的是英文,所以他不在意隨聲附和的國人聽不聽得懂,世俗是你們的事,與我何幹,陳冠希的道歉中已經表達的在明白不過了”,難道不成樓主是陳冠希肚子裏的蛔蟲?還是陳冠希的公關跟你說你需要這樣寫這樣說?
樓主的思想境界匪夷所思。“他舉身事外,受了點挫敗不要緊,在人生旅程當中,不過一段精彩的落寞風景而已。”,看來陳冠希拍的這些,樓主是欣賞的很了。“精彩的落寞風景”,精彩,估計樓主是很喜歡他這種做法了,落寞倒不見得,他不是還有你這樣的於危難之中顯真情的知己麽?
豔照門落幕?不見得吧!他動了那麽多人的奶酪,這樣就算了?雖然幕後的事情觀眾無法知道,但是如果就此落幕的話,估計香港的警察是太想上鏡了,整天沒事就去保護陳冠希,站在名人旁邊好出鏡啊。
鄙視那些為了眼球和點擊,為了顯示自己而把大便說成是香的人!!!
"豔照門"的出現,看起來偶然,其實是必然的,因為CGX玩弄女星已經達到了極至,第一個看到豔照和散布出去的人,首先肯定是驚得不相信自己的眼睛,再後來就是得讓公眾知道CGX在他帥氣外表下是個什麽樣子的性變態,否則,第一個看豔照的人,不是驚死就得憋死.社會對每一個人都是公平的.
搞不懂為什麽幾張香港女人和一個明顯是東亞病夫的男人作愛的照片如此轟動!她們可是演戲的,本來就是供人玩的,何必用道德不道德來衡量她們?
應該是戲子愛演戲 為錢心甘情願供人玩的任君享用 凍雨不滑來一個嗎?
愚民很可怕,中東有個女孩因為自由戀愛不是給石頭打死了嗎。
公眾人物多是瞎捧的,何況陳冠希一直沒有標榜自己是優秀人物。不盲從的人不會摻和這種事。
私下怎麽做, 是個人的權力。但是不小心, 運氣不好, 暴自己的隱私於大眾之前,那別人是否還肯尊重你, 進而接著捧你的場, 是別人的權力。
上的山多終遇虎, 自己不小心, 咎由自取。
他對大眾道歉, 是以委屈自己, 來爭取大眾接著捧他的場, 眾女星的場,以減少損失。
現在因他引起的巨額損失, 總該有人買單。他的未來難說。
明月成都有點搞笑。如果CGX還沒有違反普遍道德觀,到什麽歉呢?逃離香港幹什麽?戲份為什麽給全部刪除?你自己的道德觀當然不是普遍道德觀。嗬嗬。
普遍道德觀並不等於正確的道德觀.
強烈建議你去看---薑文---太陽照常升起,黃秋生那個酷啊。
奶奶不走,講故事,好聽,不聽老人言,吃虧在眼前。
2. 該不該譴責他? 套句耶穌的老話,請沒作過類似事情的人先來.
3. 英語說的很正, 讓我想起前幾天看的"PAINTED VEIL"裏麵的黃秋生. 講英語的英國口音比 ED NORTON 還正. 可一說中文台詞, 沒把我笑背過氣去.
我,站在你身後,磚頭飛來,你頂著,我先撤,ok?
也不能因為是明星就如此誇張行事吧?
戲份為什麽給全部刪除?因為那個導演或者製片太笨,不會炒作。嘻嘻。
把你的粉黛弄淺一點,搞得像貞子似的~
我當是什麽文章呢,還有人喊好,真是水平爾爾。陳冠希當然沒有錯,他幹他自己的事,不關別人的事,這點還要你聲明半天嗎?搞得像是網友都很白癡、不講道理似的!
陳冠希的事情反應的是網友對他的嫉妒,這點你有分析到嗎?遜!
--------------哈哈,挑釁?這也太不地道了吧,湊個熱鬧罷了,歡迎來搞。
我當是什麽文章呢,還有人喊好,真是水平爾爾。陳冠希當然沒有錯,他幹他自己的事,不關別人的事,這點還要你聲明半天嗎?搞得像是網友都很白癡、不講道理似的!
陳冠希的事情反應的是網友對他的嫉妒,這點你有分析到嗎?遜!
陳尚算知恥而退,不知樓主為何憤憤不平?發照片的當然也算陰險可恥。但世間如果真的沒有狗仔隊,難道任那些明星名人男盜女娼,胡作非為?難道真的等待天遣?他們有普通人沒有的資源,自然也就得付出些代價。
請問他違反了哪一條你所說的普遍道德?一個未婚男孩有幾個女朋友就是風流成性?真好笑!
不嘛,領導您在多講幾句,乍一看以為你在笑話我,在仔細一聽,您說的好過癮啊,肯定是中央領導視察講話。
他的道歉,怨大於了謙。
為他不值。
Thank you, 陳冠希, 娛樂了國人, open 了 eyes
路過就說一句。他是ABC,中文說不溜,所以用英文倒不是樓主想的那樣。真的不在意那就不用出來道歉了。 個人其實覺得他也是受害者,挺可憐。
我個人感覺,如果在國際上講英文可以理解,在香港發布會上,講英文為了流利也是有可能,但是潛意識裏,肯定是心理上有排斥了,在習慣了的英語上找安全感。
因為人人都覺得無聊,恨八卦太少。
CGX is single, the rest of the women were all single at the time they played. Every adult did that, and mostly enjoyed. As long CGX didn't intensionally release and post these photoes, he didn't violate any law.
Anyone who publicize other people's private photo without consent should be pursued.
There's no justice there.
別那麽上綱上線。各個地方的風氣不同而已。說起“虛偽”,娛樂圈能把垃圾包裝成“金童玉女”,虛偽嗎?其實,很多指責從這種“金童玉女”的反差而來。我沒心指責cgx,你說的也有一定道理,但還是不能完全苟同。
娛樂圈本來就是打扮出來的,迷惑的就是那些願意被迷惑的人,愚昧盲目的崇拜,抽自己的嘴巴也隻能是無知的表現,隻怪包裝公司的禮品盒設計的太漂亮是無處投訴的。
散播圖片者比他更加不如。但他的罪名是普遍道德上的風流成性。他私人的作風,在無外人知曉下,就不違反現有的普遍道德嗎?道德隻在外人知曉下才成問題嗎?
Clinton隻是有此醜聞但並沒有這種照片。倘若他的照片滿世界飛的話,恐怕早在Vote of No Confidence前就辭職了。CGX是名人,但其違反普遍道德的事情被大家知道後,還能繼續作榜樣嗎?
當然普遍道德觀是人訂的所以結果是要麽改變大陸的普遍道德觀,要麽是他退出明星圈不再出名(也就沒有這麽多人評論他了)。哪個更易先行?
大陸普遍的道德觀?---------?
陳冠希是名人,娛樂圈的名人,名人不一定是榜樣,如果說道榜樣,當從柏楊先生的醜陋的中國人說起。
成龍先生對著私生女也不過說了一句,犯了一個男人的錯誤而已。標榜,在被眾星捧月,生活糜爛的娛樂圈去找榜樣?你想他成為什麽樣子的榜樣。
娛樂圈的亂,不止是大陸,全世界都有緋聞。
大陸的道德觀,我看一時半會是很難改變,陳冠希即便退出娛樂圈,他早就出了名,繼續,他還會出名,你認為娛樂圈的走向是一個人的評論多少所左右的嘛?芙蓉姐姐還越鬧越紅呢,這就是娛樂圈的怪象,醜的不醜,沒準還更火呢。
陳冠希何錯之有?" 他缺少責任感! 另外還SB. 人家好好的姑娘就因為他的變態要求和行為及愚蠢弄的下半輩子沒了希望, 多年努力付出付之東流. 更別說對青少年的健康成長的惡劣影響了.
好好的姑娘是成年人,並且他們的要求是否變態?青少年的性知識本來就是應該普及的,雖然不是教育他們手拿攝像機,但是也不是一個陳冠希等娛樂圈中紙醉金迷等人控製得了的,性成熟本是瓜熟蒂落的事情,歸根究底如何樹立正確的人生觀才是最重要的。
Clinton隻是有此醜聞但並沒有這種照片。倘若他的照片滿世界飛的話,恐怕早在Vote of No Confidence前就辭職了。CGX是名人,但其違反普遍道德的事情被大家知道後,還能繼續作榜樣嗎?
當然普遍道德觀是人訂的所以結果是要麽改變大陸的普遍道德觀,要麽是他退出明星圈不再出名(也就沒有這麽多人評論他了)。哪個更易先行?