燕子說的例子應該是這個吧:A suspended CMU student died by suicide.

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https://www.post-gazette.com/news/education/2025/06/22/carnegie-mellon-student-mental-health-pittsburgh/stories/202506130064

A suspended CMU student died by suicide. His parents are pushing for a mental health review at the university

Several semesters in, Rowan de Boer's parents noticed he’d gained weight and lost some of his humor. They didn’t know about his more severe mental health challenges. 

Rowan de Boer was a good student, a skilled swimmer and valedictorian of his class at Allderdice High School. He was silly and well-liked by his peers. He was always smiling, his dad remembers.

In the fall of 2019, Rowan enrolled at Carnegie Mellon University. He studied electrical engineering because it was the hardest engineering program to get into.

Rowan started off his CMU career strong. He got straight A’s, made dean’s list and even served as a teaching assistant.

But several semesters into college, something changed.

Unbeknownst to his parents, Rowan stopped attending classes and isolated himself in his apartment. He wouldn’t respond to friends’ text messages or professors’ emails. CMU eventually suspended him.

Rowan’s parents noticed their son had gained weight and lost some of his humor. They had no idea he was battling severe mental health challenges until he died by suicide on May 13, 2023 — the day he was supposed to graduate.

Now, Rowan’s parents, Maarten de Boer and Venetia Pimley, are pushing CMU to conduct an external review of its mental health policies and procedures.

They believe Rowan slipped through the cracks at the elite institution, alleging the CMU did not follow proper protocol in dealing with Rowan’s academic decline. They also have identified several areas where they’d like to see change at the Oakland school.

“We don’t want other parents to have this experience,” Ms. Pimley said.

Added her husband, a professor of mechanical engineering at CMU: “We’re not the mental health experts. We’re not the ones to say what should be done. We’re just saying we found some very glaring deficiencies in how [CMU] treated Rowan’s case.”

In a statement, CMU said it has made significant investments in services and resources to help its students thrive.

“The death of any student is a tragic loss for the Carnegie Mellon community. The goal is that this never happens to anyone in our campus family,” spokeswoman Cassia Crogan said. “The work to eliminate any loss to suicide is an ongoing effort.”

Rowan’s decline

After Rowan’s death, Mr. de Boer and Ms. Pimley began to piece together the parts of their son’s life that he had hidden from them.

During Rowan’s fifth semester of college, his grade point average dropped from 4.0 to 1.8. By the end of that semester, Rowan was put on academic probation, and by the sixth semester, he had stopped attending classes altogether.

But Rowan’s academic adviser never reached out to him about his academic decline or probation, his parents said after reviewing their son’s school emails. Two professors contacted him via email to see why he wasn’t attending class, but Rowan never responded.

At the end of Rowan’s sixth semester, an assistant dean sent him a letter of suspension that asked Rowan to confirm his receipt of the letter as soon as possible. Rowan’s email account shows he never responded.

Meanwhile, Rowan, who lived in an off-campus apartment, led his parents to believe he was taking classes and on track to graduate. A discrepancy in Rowan’s expected graduation date gave his parents pause, but Rowan assured them it was a mistake on CMU’s part that he would get fixed.

Still, Mr. de Boer reached out to Rowan’s academic adviser about the graduation date. During a phone call, Mr. de Boer said, he told the adviser that Rowan didn’t seem to be himself lately, and he was worried about his son’s emotional health.

The adviser told Mr. de Boer he couldn’t share anything related to Rowan’s grades, citing the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act, which protects the privacy of students’ educational records. The adviser never indicated that his son had been suspended, Mr. de Boer said.

After Rowan’s death, Mr. de Boer and Ms. Pimley learned they could have used a parent portal to verify Rowan’s enrollment status. It never crossed their minds to check this, though, because they had no reason to believe their son wasn’t attending classes.

“We had no idea,” Mr. de Boer said.

What Rowan’s parents want to see

Rowan’s parents said they believe CMU officials failed to uphold the university’s policy in their handling of Rowan’s academic decline and suspension.

When Rowan’s grades plummeted, a CMU dean or adviser never checked up on him, even though CMU policy states that deans and advisers will do so in a timely manner for students in academic trouble during the mid-semester period.

CMU officials also never received acknowledgement of his suspension from Rowan, according to Rowan’s emails.

The couple has also identified areas in which they believe the university is lacking in support for student mental health. Rowan displayed several red-flag behaviors that went unnoticed, they say.

The couple would like an externally led task force to consider numerous action items, including:

• A campus suicide prevention plan
• Uniform procedures for handling students with academic and mental health concerns
• Uniform training of academic advisers
• The release of data from CMU’s health and well-being surveys
• A review of CMU’s interpretation of FERPA
• Training so all employees can identify signs of mental health disorders and understand FERPA law
• Better software for tracking academic performance

The task force’s findings would be publicly available to the CMU community, Mr. de Boer and Ms. Pimley envision.

“They’re not meaningful unless they’re published publicly,” Mr. de Boer said. “They should list their action items and assess how well [CMU] is doing on their action items. We think that would greatly improve university mental health.”

Ms. Pimley hopes an external review of the university’s procedures and policies would lead to a stronger safety net for struggling students.

“It’s for the student body now and in the future,” Ms. Pimley said. “It’s best for the students to do it in a professional and meaningful way.”

CMU’s current support for students

In an email to the Post-Gazette, CMU outlined several measures it has taken over the years to support student mental health. 

It has has doubled counselling and psychological services staffing in the past 10 years; started a mobile crisis unit in partnership with university police; and encourages community members to make referrals “through an online and telephone referral system in order to alert the university about students who need additional support,” the university wrote.

“Hundreds of students each year are connected with resources and receive individualized care as a result of these referrals, which is in addition to the thousands of students who self-refer for care with CMU’s robust network of care services,” the statement said.

CMU said its suicide prevention strategy is based on best practices from the JED Foundation, the Center for Collegiate Mental Health, the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention, the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration and the Higher Education Mental Health Alliance, among others.

CMU said it has created a department focused on wellness and tripled the number of programs focused on proactive care. Officials touted access to a free meditation app and workshops on “a range of other relaxation and community-focused connections.”

CMU requires students to have health insurance with “the opportunity to enroll in an insurance plan with no deductibles or copays for mental health care.” The school has introduced “additional break weeks to provide time to breathe during busy semesters,” and offers free fitness classes for students and staff, the statement said.

“In addition, programs to train faculty and staff in how to assist students have continued to grow,” the university said, “...and ways to alert caregivers about students in need of additional support have been developed.”

The university did not answer questions about its current suicide rate, whether mental health or FERPA training is a requirement for employees, when it last reviewed its mental health policies, and whether it plans to conduct a review.

Mental health challenges grow

Rowan’s mental health decline isn’t a rare occurrence in higher education.

Suicide is the second-leading cause of death among U.S. college students, with 1,100 students dying by suicide every year and approximately 24,000 students attempting suicide, according to the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention.

Of 96,000 college students surveyed during the 2021-22 academic year, 44% reported symptoms of depression, 37% had experienced anxiety and 15% had seriously considered suicide, a report by the Healthy Minds Network found. Those were the survey’s highest rates in its 15-year history.

At elite universities, students are even more likely to develop anxiety and depression, studies have shown.

“College is stressful,” Mr. de Boer said. “I teach and I know it’s stressful. There are many stresses — you’re still growing at that time. You’re having to learn a lot of stuff. If you get behind in courses, it becomes even more stressful.”

Generally speaking, many colleges provide inadequate resources for students struggling with academic pressure and mental health challenges, said Scott MacLeod, who co-founded The Sophie Fund with his wife after their daughter Sophie, a Cornell University student, died by suicide. The advocacy group aims to support mental health and prevent suicide in the Ithaca, N.Y., area.

Mr. MacLeod said he’s found that suicide prevention is most effective at the grassroots level. College administrators, health care leaders and even young people can play a role in preventing these deaths, he said. For struggling college students, he said he believes involving parents in support is often vital.

“We're really talking about the future of our country,” Mr. MacLeod said. “[College] is a very vulnerable time for young people.

“We can't have college administrations indifferent to their mental health. You need them to be completely on board to do everything possible to support it and they need to [involve] their campuses, parents and communities, as well.”

 

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進不去 -zaocha2002- 給 zaocha2002 發送悄悄話 zaocha2002 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 05:30:49

我能看到啊 -Feinbery- 給 Feinbery 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 05:33:38

還是進不去,哈哈 -zaocha2002- 給 zaocha2002 發送悄悄話 zaocha2002 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 05:43:09

可以啊,我把內容也貼在主貼裏了 -Numero- 給 Numero 發送悄悄話 Numero 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 05:35:28

看到了。這個是荷蘭,德國或比利時的姓。Maarten de Boer 是他爸爸,查一下也是CMU的? -zaocha2002- 給 zaocha2002 發送悄悄話 zaocha2002 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 05:39:57

CMU機械係教授 -我是誰的誰- 給 我是誰的誰 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 05:40:32

這也太大意,感覺娃是抑鬱症。 -zaocha2002- 給 zaocha2002 發送悄悄話 zaocha2002 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 05:43:50

美國這種不與家長溝通、什麼事先把自己摘乾淨的文化確實有點BS -我是誰的誰- 給 我是誰的誰 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 05:47:25

我倒是覺得可能這娃以前太依賴父母,現在拚命想獨立所以疏離父母。 -zaocha2002- 給 zaocha2002 發送悄悄話 zaocha2002 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 05:52:55

中間的de是否是貴族的標誌?德國或德語中的貴族較多 -硬碼工- 給 硬碼工 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 05:48:33

相當於英語的“of”? -我是誰的誰- 給 我是誰的誰 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 05:51:42

如果是比利時和荷蘭的就是 the 的意思。boer是農民的意思 -zaocha2002- 給 zaocha2002 發送悄悄話 zaocha2002 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 05:51:59

名字象印度名。 -Knight_2024- 給 Knight_2024 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 06:51:02

不是 -zaocha2002- 給 zaocha2002 發送悄悄話 zaocha2002 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 07:20:48

家長居然是CMU機械係教授,double tragedy。家長糊塗啊,住這麼近,自己該多去看看娃吧 -我是誰的誰- 給 我是誰的誰 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 05:39:49

CMU EE頭兩年GPA 4.0,是個學習很優秀的娃。一個學期GPA從4.0掉到1.8,這中間應該有很大的事發生,失戀? -我是誰的誰- 給 我是誰的誰 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 05:45:25

是啊,這怎麽回事,住這麽近,周末不回家嗎? -飛黎- 給 飛黎 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 05:46:24

有些事是很難用常理推斷的,中間一定有極其特殊的原因 -rr6mumu- 給 rr6mumu 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 08:01:23

從家長portal 是看得到娃注冊的課和成績的,雖然孩子很反感我們摻和他學校的事,但不至於完全不知道狀況 -whaled- 給 whaled 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 05:53:44

這個要孩子授權才可以。我家都隻授權我付費。 -Rockeymountain- 給 Rockeymountain 發送悄悄話 Rockeymountain 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 05:57:15

我家的不在乎,當然也不會理會我們的建議 嗬嗬 -whaled- 給 whaled 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 05:58:22

哈哈, 我家授權付費和看成績單 -2boysmom- 給 2boysmom 發送悄悄話 2boysmom 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 06:15:34

Same here.而且付費也是我得記得。就不是娃的事。Totally spoiled. -Bailey4321- 給 Bailey4321 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 08:15:32

那是因為你娃讓你看。學校不給家長access的。但是他的家長明顯失職。現在都推學校,好像也顯示家長這種attitude -Bailey4321- 給 Bailey4321 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 07:56:50

同校的家長,沒想到去查看的parent portal, -trivial- 給 trivial 發送悄悄話 (122 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 05:54:05

至少交學費就可以要求看到成績 -2boysmom- 給 2boysmom 發送悄悄話 2boysmom 的博客首頁 (139 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 06:10:00

兩個是分開的。但是這是我唯一的leverage,不給看成績單我不繳費 -我是誰的誰- 給 我是誰的誰 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 06:11:29

對呀, 分開是分開, 但必須要求啊 -2boysmom- 給 2boysmom 發送悄悄話 2boysmom 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 06:12:58

你牛。 -Bailey4321- 給 Bailey4321 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 08:19:34

這個case看校方有無違規了。沒有授權就不能告訴成績是法律,家長不能要求別人違法。 -trivial- 給 trivial 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 06:19:14

S -恒媽- 給 恒媽 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 06:19:38

這我還真見過。老大的導師都是一個係的教授, 女的是台灣人, 所以他們的孩子大學修了中文, 後來聊天的時候爸爸不知兒子這學 -2boysmom- 給 2boysmom 發送悄悄話 2boysmom 的博客首頁 (174 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 06:24:58

他們本身也在學校,對學校的各種規則和運作比其他人應該更了解。 -trivial- 給 trivial 發送悄悄話 (104 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 06:41:23

這家長和小孩關係太疏遠了吧。同校同城,連自己孩子有抑鬱症都看不出來 -風景線2- 給 風景線2 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 06:18:42

看出來, 孩子不願意配合也很難。 這裏父母最難過, 家長很難做 -2boysmom- 給 2boysmom 發送悄悄話 2boysmom 的博客首頁 (116 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 06:22:40

S -恒媽- 給 恒媽 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 06:24:09

不要嚇我,我以為我家大熊的疏遠期已經結束了...... -天意悠悠- 給 天意悠悠 發送悄悄話 天意悠悠 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 06:39:38

就是啊,收那麽多錢,生怕擔責任,感覺大學並沒有把學生的最大利益放在優先地位,泛指所有大學 -飛黎- 給 飛黎 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 06:39:47

學校不能告訴是因為小孩簽了保密協議,學校不能違反協議。所以首先要問為什麽小孩要選擇保密,不信任家長 -風景線2- 給 風景線2 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 06:54:09

這個時候家長是最傷心的, 沒有完美的家長, 都需要學習提高, 但在任何一個關鍵節點如果有為孩子想會阻止悲劇 -2boysmom- 給 2boysmom 發送悄悄話 2boysmom 的博客首頁 (299 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 07:03:51

娃如果抑鬱了精神都不正常,簽的保密協議有效嗎? -rr6mumu- 給 rr6mumu 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 08:07:43

家長都知道小孩抑鬱了,還不去治療嗎?追究是否知道學校成績沒意義。無論什麽原因導致娃抑鬱,家長沒上心是重要原因 -風景線2- 給 風景線2 發送悄悄話 (83 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 08:22:44

父母太大意了,父親同校,每周約一起吃飯總可以了解點情況的。 -katies- 給 katies 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 06:45:34

S -恒媽- 給 恒媽 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 06:53:59

可以去他的apartment,反正這個case父母也是有失誤的。 -katies- 給 katies 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 06:56:13

嗬嗬, 理解理解, 單一指責父母的也許家裏孩子都是報恩的, 沒有經曆, 站著說話 -2boysmom- 給 2boysmom 發送悄悄話 2boysmom 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 07:05:12

是的,父母難當. -飛黎- 給 飛黎 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 07:32:41

確實,娃和娃太不同 -rr6mumu- 給 rr6mumu 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 07:49:40

大學覺得娃到了18歲就成年了可以全靠自己,我覺得高估了熊孩子,有時候還是需要家長關注一下的 -Croissant_22- 給 Croissant_22 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 06:45:04

我覺得這群裏對有的家長關心孩子一邊倒勸人家放手不公平, 又不是自己的孩子父母管也不是不管也不是 -2boysmom- 給 2boysmom 發送悄悄話 2boysmom 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 06:48:02

勸放手是指讓小孩多自己闖,不是要家長完全不理睬 -風景線2- 給 風景線2 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 06:56:53

唯一語言表達不了的就是度, 老祖宗的中庸之道最高深莫測 -2boysmom- 給 2boysmom 發送悄悄話 2boysmom 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 06:59:16

不能一刀切,娃和娃太不同 -rr6mumu- 給 rr6mumu 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 07:58:24

買汽車保險時,25歲才被treatedas adult,我覺得男孩到30歲才讓父母放心。 -katies- 給 katies 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 06:58:43

嚴重同意,晚熟娃更難說 -rr6mumu- 給 rr6mumu 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 07:45:00

對我家來說,有時是不夠的 -rr6mumu- 給 rr6mumu 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 07:51:45

上大學前要簽幾張表,包括醫療保險,病情和成績讓家長知道,這不是常識嗎。 -youtub- 給 youtub 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 08:27:37

成績當然不在內。 -Bailey4321- 給 Bailey4321 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 08:48:10

成績那張表也是要填的,一起交給學校。 -youtub- 給 youtub 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 09:26:55

剛查了一下,特殊情況下家長還是可以看成績的,但是要有相關證據,不會打個電話就告訴你。 -trivial- 給 trivial 發送悄悄話 (2920 bytes) () 06/25/2025 postreply 08:49:03

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