CS畢業生 就業困境 機遇減少 求職困難 競爭激烈

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這篇文章特別是對 Cornell 大學 CS 的就業的. 特別是分析了就讀康乃爾大學、將升大四的電腦科學專業學生Alex Giang(蔣?)同學,他 在申請 Uber、Airbnb、Tesla 特斯拉、Facebook、蘋果和 Amazon 亞馬遜等實習都沒能成功

https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/careers/computer-science-majors-job-market-7ad443bf 

 

By 
Katherine Bindley
 
Corrie Driebusch
 
 and 
Lindsay Ellis
 
 Photographs by Kate Warren for The Wall Street Journal
 ET
 
Computer science is hotter than ever at U.S. universities. But students graduating this month are discovering their degrees are no longer a surefire ticket to tech-industry riches.
In fact, many are finding it harder than they ever thought it would be to land a job.
Tech giants that were expanding aggressively just a few years ago now have less need for entry-level hires—or are shedding jobs. They are also, increasingly, turning their focus to artificial intelligence, a technology many fear could reduce the need for coders. Postings on jobs website Indeed for software-development roles, a proxy for computer science, have dropped 30% from prepandemic levels.
At the same time, companies have a burgeoning supply of new grads to choose from. The number of students in the U.S. majoring in computer and information science has jumped 40% in five years, to more than 600,000 as of 2023. The number of bachelor’s degrees conferred in those majors topped 100,000 in 2021, according to the Department of Education, a 140% rise from 10 years earlier.
Students who once had jobs and summer internships lined up by Thanksgiving are now broadening their searches.
“When I tell people I’m in computer science, they’re, like, ‘Lucky you. You’re going to make a lot of money. You can do anything you want,’” said Ben Riesett, a 22-year-old who graduated this month from Catholic University of America. “The truth is, when you start looking right now, it’s impossible to get hired.”
Just a few years ago, Riesett heard constantly that employers needed staff with his skill set; now, his classmates with jobs got them through friends or family, or from internships. Riesett, in Washington, D.C., said he has applied to entry-level roles all over the country and received only a few responses.

Computer science is a popular line of study at Cornell and other top universities.

To be sure, comp-sci majors from top-tier schools can still get jobs. Pay, projected to be at about $75,000, is at the high end of majors reviewed by the National Association of Colleges and Employers, or NACE. They are just not all going to Facebook or Google.
“Job seekers need to reset their expectations,” said Tim Herbert, chief research officer at CompTIA, a trade group that follows the tech sector. “New grads may need to adjust where they’re willing to work, in some cases what salary, perks or signing bonus they’ll receive, and the type of firm they’ll work for.”
And while big tech companies are hiring for AI-related jobs, Herbert said, many of those positions require more experience than a new grad would have.
Salaries for this year’s graduates in computer science are expected to be 2.7% higher than last year’s, the smallest increase of eight fields reviewed by NACE. 
In the past 18 months, job growth has remained flat for software publishers, a group of employers that includes software developers, according to the Labor Department. On the student jobs platform Handshake, the number of full-time jobs recently posted for tech companies is down 30% from the year-ago period.

Looking farther afield

Jarin Rahman, an information-science major who just completed her junior year at Cornell University, had long assumed she would try to land a job at a large tech company. As a first-generation college student, she thought it was the best path.
But Rahman knows lots of seniors who interned at big tech companies last summer and didn’t get return offers. With the tech industry appearing less stable than she anticipated, she started looking elsewhere.
“It made me really stressed out because I know that I have to find a way to support my family,” she said.
This summer, she will intern at a real-estate investment management firm.

Cornell University student Jarin Rahman says she knows seniors who interned but didn’t receive return job offers.

Stephanie Johnson, a career-development lead with the computer-science department at the University of North Carolina, said her students on average were applying to 150 or more jobs. Many were still waiting for offers in the spring.
Just a few years ago, they might apply for 20 or 40 positions—and get a final offer in the fall.
Johnson said she has seen more students focused on companies where tech is a service and not the product. She knows two students who were offered roles at big tech companies but declined: One went to a bank, the other to a retailer.
The University of Virginia typically offers a large career fair called Tech Night Takeover, hosting big companies for a night of networking. This year, the school expanded the event to include employers in healthcare, energy and financial services hiring for tech roles.

Hand-delivered applications

The pipeline is bursting with comp-sci students who will need jobs in the next few years. Computer and information science is the fastest-growing top-20 major in the U.S. at four-year colleges, according to the National Student Clearinghouse Research Center. It is the fourth-most-popular major overall. Between 2018 and 2023, the number of students majoring in computer and information science jumped from about 444,000 to 628,000.
Pierce Avner, who just finished his junior year at the University of Colorado, Boulder, said he applied online for hundreds of internships last year. The majority never responded. Of those that did, many sent back a rejection note within 15 seconds to a minute.
This year, he took an old-fashioned route, hand-delivering about 20 applications to tech companies around Denver and Boulder. He also sent emails to alumni from the Theta Tau professional engineering fraternity. He is set to intern at an aerospace company this summer, one of the employers he found through his fraternity networking.
Alex Giang, a computer-science major who just finished his junior year at Cornell, is preparing to start a software-engineering internship at a digital-advertising company. Applications to UberAirbnbTesla, Facebook, Apple and Amazon.com didn’t pan out. 
Friends are adjusting, too. Their new mentality is: “If you get a job, even if you don’t like it, you need to take it because you don’t know if you’re going to get anything else,” Giang said.

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為什麽過去兩年tech裁了那麽多員工? 說明人浮於世效率低下。 -Rockeymountain- 給 Rockeymountain 發送悄悄話 Rockeymountain 的博客首頁 (116 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 19:23:20

因為前幾年公司都怕找不到足夠的talent。有活沒活都先收進來留著。現在發現不需要了。 -Bailey4321- 給 Bailey4321 發送悄悄話 (180 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 19:45:57

我們這條街的鄰居一個娃伯克利EECS一個Cal Poly CS, 都做了好幾年intern。畢業都沒找到工作。 -Rockeymountain- 給 Rockeymountain 發送悄悄話 Rockeymountain 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 19:55:39

去年intern的return offer好像特別重要。拿到的就都還好。沒拿到的就比較麻煩 -Bailey4321- 給 Bailey4321 發送悄悄話 (104 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 19:58:32

拿到也有很多被取消了。 -Rockeymountain- 給 Rockeymountain 發送悄悄話 Rockeymountain 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 20:00:42

Cornell 的CS還是藤校中排名最高的。 -youtub- 給 youtub 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 19:26:38

所以WSJ才會用來調研分析 -兄貴- 給 兄貴 發送悄悄話 兄貴 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 19:28:14

來美比較早的經曆過.com泡沫破滅,那時計算機專業找工作比以前難一些,過一陣就好了。 -youtub- 給 youtub 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 19:42:15

你是忘了傷疤了,00年的到09年才從新開始boom,09,還是10年是史低的Cs學位發放率。 -yzhl888- 給 yzhl888 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 19:51:11

每年光華印兩族娃進大學有個12萬左右,可能起碼有個3萬去讀CS,競爭不激烈不行啊 -大西洋裏來的人- 給 大西洋裏來的人 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 19:35:52

這個康家小中男還是找到intern了啊。隻不過沒找到大廠的。另一個康的是first gen女生, 換軌道了 -Bailey4321- 給 Bailey4321 發送悄悄話 (166 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 19:41:52

一開始是要求太高呀。。。赫赫 -Midwestrural- 給 Midwestrural 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 19:43:00

樓主的編者按有點誤導。。。 -Bailey4321- 給 Bailey4321 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 19:49:55

是的,樓主好像也有點恨康情節。 -河塘月色45- 給 河塘月色45 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 19:58:02

既生瑜何生亮。CMU 對Cornell。 lol -Bailey4321- 給 Bailey4321 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 20:00:10

記得老早以前也是砸康,被一個教授給駁斥了一下。 -河塘月色45- 給 河塘月色45 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 20:04:40

樓主恨藤,因為沒錄他娃 -STEMkid- 給 STEMkid 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 20:03:00

就是暫時的 -東西南北衫- 給 東西南北衫 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 03:09:40

那個換軌道的是IS major, 康的IS的課程技術難度要去比CS差很多。那個學CS的rising senior, -joytolearn- 給 joytolearn 發送悄悄話 (1112 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 05:14:56

前幾年給的期望值太高了而已。認識一個中等LAC 文科轉 CS 的都找到工作了,不過是醫療係統的 IT -STEMkid- 給 STEMkid 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 19:59:00

想想Musk在twitter裁了那麽多軟工service照常運行就知道這行水分有多大了 -w20636- 給 w20636 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 20:54:21

很想知道你家牛娃去哪了? -zaocha2002- 給 zaocha2002 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 22:09:31

上麵偽藤康的黑社會家長出動了 這就是WSJ的一篇文章而已 -東西南北衫- 給 東西南北衫 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 03:11:33

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