多數人圍繞討論的應是朝鮮戰爭的意義，該不該，值不值。。等等

It is in fact a very interesting question for speculation. I can see why some downplay or even deny its significance for if China had not joined the communist camp, there would have been no need for this war. And joining the communist camp might neither be necessary nor good for China - a view I still hold today.

Yet, in this scenario, the Soviet Union would have been China's enemy, likely a more brutal and constant enemy since it was China's neighbor.  Yet the Soviet collapsed in the earlier 90s. But this wasn't something one could foretell. Or, had China not been allied with the Soviet, would the Soviet still collapse when time was due? Or, when?

I agree with Li's observation that the collapse of the Soviet had deeper reasons, but similar reasons can be observed in today's US... !  I think that was why Putin mocked the US : All the US now needs is a revolution.

At the end of the day, we can only respect what has already happened, and value the past deeds in their spiritual dimensions. In the case of the Korean war, the Chinese soldiers did show a majestic, triumphant spirit which was particularly precious given Chinese people's bitter experience since the opium war.

 

 

所有跟帖： 

• 說一千，道一萬，不可否認的事實就是，誌願軍是鴉片戰爭以來中國唯一一支能爭善戰的軍隊。 -為人父- ♂ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 19:44:00

• 看一看49年之前的百年曆史，就一個詞，“屈辱，” 即便作為兩次世界大戰的戰勝國 -加拿大雁王- ♂ (452 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 20:00:20

• 說的沒錯！ -為人父- ♂ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 20:09:32

• 八年抗戰在你這成內戰了？ -為人父- ♂ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 20:54:09

• 上百萬中朝兩國軍人的家破人亡就換來這麽一不完全是事實的話，有意思嗎？ -看客2010- ♀ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 20:22:44

• 兩百萬朝鮮平民可不是被誌願軍殺的，而是美國飛機炸死的。誌願軍是朝鮮戰場四個主要交戰國唯一沒有屠殺平民戰爭罪的一方。 -為人父- ♂ (50 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 20:46:30

• 造成這場傷亡慘重的戰爭的始作俑者是誰？ -看客2010- ♀ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 20:57:51

• 美軍不聽中國警告，越過了三八線啊。否則哪還有抗美援朝。 -為人父- ♂ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 21:05:02

• 你人在國外，怎麽讀的曆史啊？哎！ -看客2010- ♀ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 21:13:23

• 美軍越過三八線， -南方古猿- ♂ (1283 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 20:18:42

• 不同問題 -南方古猿- ♂ (284 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 20:50:10

• 可以想象嗎，美軍直接陳兵中國邊境！ -加拿大雁王- ♂ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 21:04:03

• 老毛真地在乎中國的發展，就不會不顧眾人，比如林彪的反對，進兵朝鮮了。 -看客2010- ♀ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 21:04:48

• 保家衛國是真目的！台灣亦如是 -SAR- ♂ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 20:36:30

• 赫爾曼沃克在“戰爭風雲”一書導語中引用猶太作家朱麗安般達的一段話耐人尋味， -喜歡下雨- ♂ (139 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 20:40:27

• 基於？ -SAR- ♂ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 21:14:30

• 是的，筆誤，sorry! -喜歡下雨- ♂ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 21:43:37

• 老毛很積極主動的，可不是被逼的，好伐？人在國外，要多聽多看，即使人在牆內，翻牆出來了，不是也可以看到聽到很多嘛。 -看客2010- ♀ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 20:46:40

• 積極主動地禦敵於國門之外，比蔣介石引狼入市高明不知多少倍。不知道你咋讀的曆史，好賴都分不清。 -為人父- ♂ (177 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 20:52:40

• 老毛在派兵之前，非常清楚美國沒有進攻中國的計劃，才下的決心。所謂的保家衛國不過是欺騙國內百姓的口號罷了。 -看客2010- ♀ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 21:01:31

• 是你認為美軍不會進攻中國吧？老毛哪知道啊。老毛沒有你了解敵情。：） -為人父- ♂ (210 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 21:07:24

• 拜托你好好讀讀有關的曆史再來笑吧，哈！ -看客2010- ♀ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 21:15:01

• 無論有沒有計劃 -南方古猿- ♂ (140 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 21:30:58

• 您先搞清楚這場戰爭是誰先打起來的，行嗎？ -看客2010- ♀ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 21:36:48

• 賜教 -南方古猿- ♂ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 22:00:33

• 賜教不敢當，請你看我在上麵回心姐的帖子裏的人民日報的官方評論吧。 -看客2010- ♀ (0 bytes) () 10/09/2021 postreply 14:19:29

• 如果中國是中華民國，那麽就可能就跟美國是同一陣營，而與蘇聯為敵。。情形馬上不同了。 -中間小謝- ♂ (484 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 20:51:14

• 所以在大歷史麵前，朝鮮戰爭也衹是細節。 -中間小謝- ♂ (173 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 21:04:15