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Laker Scouting Reports

by rydjorker121 on Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:50 pm

Jeremy Lin: Position: PG Height: 6' 3” Weight: 200 Age: 25 Contract: $14,898,938 ('14-'15), but due to Gilbert Arenas provision only $8,374,646 would count against the Lakers' cap Nickname: J-Lin Years With Team: 0 Years With League: 3 Previous Teams: Golden State, New York, Houston Acquired: July '14 trade with Houston Rockets (absorbed Jeremy's contract along with 2015 Houston Rockets' 1st round pick)

Lin has a very diversified offense--he takes roughly a third of his shots from three point range, mid-range and at the rim, so he's comfortable utilizing the entire length of the court. That, above anything, differentiates him from many of the lower-level point and combo guards in the league. At his best, Lin is penetrating deep to the basket for layups, drawing bushels of fouls, swishing spot-up and self-created mid-range shots, and hitting the occasional three, providing a viable source of offense. He is also playing good team defense and preventing teams from hitting money shots (layups and threes). At his worst, Lin stops short of the basket, displaying tunnel vision and missing open teammates as he flings up runners or takes tough fadeaway shots, or starts turning the ball over incessantly. He would also stop rebounding.

Lin's most unique asset is creating driving layups for himself: nearly 30% of his shots are driving layups, a rate in the fifth of all point guards, and he's also adept at utilizing reverse layups. It's also an excellent value play for him, because at 59.8%, he's well into the top third in conversion rate, and he does an excellent job of drawing fouls and finishing through contact, with a foul-drawing rate of 0.38 (a top six mark for points, and in line with what he's done career-wise). Another third of Lin's shots were from mid-range, and he's also an excellent value play here, with an above average percentage of 39.9%. Looking deeper, Lin in particular does well directly at the rim (63.2%) and from long mid-rangers (42.4%), his two hot-spots. In adapting to his hybrid guard role, Lin created his own shots at the rim roughly a third of the time, while his long mid-rangers were off a mix of assisted and self-created shots. Lin isn't great from long range, but posts somewhat respectable percentages (35.8% this year, 34.3% career) and there's definite hope given that he shoots a career 80.1% from the line on a large sample size.

The problem with Lin is not really about what he is, but what he isn't: one of the primary concerns is what position allows him to optimize his level of play while simultaneously elevating the team play. So far, the numbers paint his best position as shooting guard. If so, he lacks the next level athleticism to compensate for his lack of height: while his dunk rate (0.6%) is perfectly fine for a point guard, as a shooting guard that is a bottom quarter rate. Despite a diversified offense, Lin also lacks the next-level offensive skills: he is a face-up driver and does not utilize his sturdy frame for post-ups, having attempted zero hook shots this past year. He's also not effective in the wonky shots: his points per play on runners, pull-up jumpers and in particular fadeaway and turnaround type shots are quite poor. Lin takes nearly a fifth of his shots in the in-between zones (4-15 feet), but only shoots 33.3% on runners and an abysmal 31.9% from no-man's land. 

The other issue is that Lin is not a pure point guard by any stretch: in adapting to the Rockets' depth this past season, he took on a fairly mediocre usage rate. Despite that, his assist rate was bottom third among point guards this past season, and to add insult to injury, he had the fourth worst turnover rate. He had the worst combination of turnover rate and assist rate among points, for players who played over twenty minutes per game. 

As a result, Jeremy's offense was less than the sum of its parts this season--adjusted by position, real-plus minus puts him a subpar 231st in offensive effectiveness (out of 430 NBA players), which jibes with 82games' assessment that the Rockets' offense was three points worse with him on the court. Looking deeper, Jeremy played nearly two-thirds of his minutes as point guard, but really struggled to generate offense at that position. While his scoring rate was nearly four points less, his efficiency was nearly six percent worse, and even at point guard his assist rate and turnover rates were noticeably worse. Not surprisingly, Jeremy operates better as the de-facto shooting guard in a team's five-man configurations, as he is not a true point.

Overall, on offense, Lin has a very interesting set of skills, as his ability to pair his constant finishing and foul drawing ability with a good mid-range jumper and foul shooting is appealing, on top of a diversified offense with respectable three point shooting. He has an excellent scoring base coming off the highest true shooting percentage of his career, and excellent guard penetration is something that is arguably harder to find than a guard who can shoot, so there is that level of appeal to his game. 

At only age 25, there's also that allure of what he did in the past, and whether he can recapture it: in Houston, he was operating under a clogged offense with alpha males who demand the ball like James Harden and Dwight Howard in Houston. He didn't fit that style, because he wasn't a spot-up type or floor spacer, and at times he operates the same at-rim real estate as those two, which was why he had a net negative offensive rating. While he certainly did not play like a point guard whatsoever the past year, there is evidence favoring that with a higher usage rate. During that 35-game stretch of Linsanity in New York, Lin carried a top-four usage rate, which resulted in a top ten assist rate. He also sported a positive offensive rating, the only time he's ever sported a positive rating here in the NBA. Granted, the sample space is smaller and he was playing uninhibited in former Laker coach Mike D'Antoni's offense, but there there appears to be a direct higher usage to higher efficiency and assist rate correlation with him. Lin needs an open floor, essentially, to tap into what was previously decent to good point guard ability. There is a possibility that he can combine a high usage scoring-passing combination, but it appears in particular a high usage is necessary for Lin to actually make a positive impact on the team's offense. At the very least, he's a very good bench scorer if he cannot hone in the passing to its prior levels. He could certainly also work on refining his ability to hit more complicated shots in the no-man's zones, as well as further improving his long ball and cutting down his turnovers.

On defense, Lin actually rates very well. After adjusting by position, Lin was 77th out of 430 NBA players by defensive RPM the past year, a very good mark; 82games also agrees with this idea, with the Rockets being nearly three points defensively with Lin on the court. nbawowy also agrees, with the Rockets being 0.01 points per possession better defensively with Lin on the court. Lin-based lineups defended layups better by nearly three percent, while defending threes better by 0.6%. These markers are not a fluke, given that Lin also played good team defense during the time of Linsanity. Lin is also an excellent shotblocker by position (7th out of 63 point guards), continuing excellent rates that were seen in college and illustrating his savvy in leveraging his height to make up for lack of length. Still, Lin's imposed-athletic markers really, really tailed off this past season, with a defensive rebound rate in the bottom fifth of all NBA point guards. Lin put up excellent rebounding numbers in college and had put up a top 15 rebound rate in New York. After years of top-notch thievery in college and in his first three years in the league, Lin was also in the bottom third in steal rate this past year, but this might normalize back to its past levels, and considering the very good defense he might have played more contain-level defense the past year. 

Lin was better defending point guards than shooting guards, holding down their scoring rate by nearly five points while reducing the efficiency by nearly ten percent, and in general he allows opposing guards to score. The ideal scenario to prevent crossmatching, and optimizing Lin, would create an offense centralized around him to allow him to play point guard at a reasonable level, so he can defend point guards well while being a positive on the team's offense. Lin appears to really, really elevate his game on all facets when he has the ball in his hands, and this even extends to rebounding and stealing the ball. A Lin at past year's level would require crossmatching--a SG offensively, and a PG defensively. 

Overall, Lin is a very useful player--while he's definitely overpaid at $15 million this year due to the poison pill contract the Rockets gave him, there is at least some rationale for giving him a large amount of money in the first place. He's still only age 25, and he is a two-way player who might have been suppressed somewhat in Houston's alpha-male offense the past year. His offensive skill at the point guard--ability to draw fouls at will and finish--is a unique trait, and coupled with a very good mid-range shot, an improving long ball and possible point skills with a larger usage, there is a ton to like here. He also couples that with good defensive ratings on top of a precedence for thievery, defensive rebounding and shotblocking, with good size for the point. He is also a good locker room presence, a true professional, and a marketing magnet, especially in Los Angeles where there is a sizeable Asian population. Lin has a real penchant for turnovers and can stand to improve his in-between shots, both of which are real sources of frustration, but few players even have a diversified offensive game in their arsenal, and he's taking those shots in an attempt to grow into them. At the worst, he's putting up very good scoring and defending off-the-bench value, but he might be more than that as a rock-solid starter if he rediscovers the passing ability.

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中文版的也有.有些被翻譯改變了一些,我不轉了. -NetMM- 給 NetMM 發送悄悄話 NetMM 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 11:46:49

A good report. Thx for posting. -baydad- 給 baydad 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 11:56:58

看上去還不錯嘛 -fkcom- 給 fkcom 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 12:11:20

比較實事求是。看看俺胡如何用了。 -DCDCDCDC- 給 DCDCDCDC 發送悄悄話 DCDCDCDC 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 13:06:47

嗬嗬,跟去年推媽們一致表達的觀點很接近 -犇馳- 給 犇馳 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 13:12:30

說得很多很充分. 說得是早知道的--他是PG但不純.在紐約林瘋時期,隊友背下 -weston- 給 weston 發送悄悄話 weston 的博客首頁 (507 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 13:34:49

好像實際情況不像你說的那樣, -GSmember- 給 GSmember 發送悄悄話 (249 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 14:04:26

You only hang out here or what. -weston- 給 weston 發送悄悄話 weston 的博客首頁 (370 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 14:17:19

It does not matter much. The data of those players are out ther -GSmember- 給 GSmember 發送悄悄話 (29 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 14:25:29

Let's take a look at numbers. His Assist Ratio is ranked 48th at -weston- 給 weston 發送悄悄話 weston 的博客首頁 (520 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 14:33:10

what about the data during the linsanity? -GSmember- 給 GSmember 發送悄悄話 (38 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 14:34:53

If you want to counter it you'd better find it yourself. You can -weston- 給 weston 發送悄悄話 weston 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 14:36:37

(got cut off) Lin's Assist Ratio is 23.5%. Half of the leader of -weston- 給 weston 發送悄悄話 weston 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 14:35:12

I am not sure about assist ration. good to learn. -GSmember- 給 GSmember 發送悄悄話 (55 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 14:37:17

Sound like another clueless hardcore fan. -weston- 給 weston 發送悄悄話 weston 的博客首頁 (339 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 14:46:17

這種廢話就可以少說點了吧。 -pacificwest- 給 pacificwest 發送悄悄話 (730 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 16:18:49

點讚。 -black&white- 給 black&white 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 16:37:31

My point is that his tendency of shooting first as a PG -weston- 給 weston 發送悄悄話 weston 的博客首頁 (134 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 16:57:40

這是不同的概念 -pacificwest- 給 pacificwest 發送悄悄話 (481 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 17:34:39

He started for Rockets 82 games the 1st season as the PG. -weston- 給 weston 發送悄悄話 weston 的博客首頁 (331 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 18:57:00

這條條都錯也不容易 -pacificwest- 給 pacificwest 發送悄悄話 (313 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 21:57:39

乃是你沒看明白 -weston- 給 weston 發送悄悄話 weston 的博客首頁 (301 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 22:54:37

太平洋不同意你。他說林在球隊需要他得分時才出手多,有人得分時,他無私的助攻第一。林pg時確實是找隊友第一,不行才自己來。 -萬綠叢中- 給 萬綠叢中 發送悄悄話 萬綠叢中 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 17:37:49

你說的是"當林有機會打PG的時候",沒錯。 -pacificwest- 給 pacificwest 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 17:59:47

樓主轉的文裏評估林的短板是說得很清楚. -weston- 給 weston 發送悄悄話 weston 的博客首頁 (110 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 18:49:19

你怎麽還在這兒? -GSmember- 給 GSmember 發送悄悄話 (566 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 19:03:15

Funny, you should have asked yourself that. -weston- 給 weston 發送悄悄話 weston 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 22:55:15

besides, he only saw 10 games of Lin -GSmember- 給 GSmember 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 14:36:15

Wow, Prigioni. Was he a teamate of Lin in New York? -其樂無窮- 給 其樂無窮 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 14:44:51

老普這話什麽時候說的?2012年7月,尼克斯隊的人正爭先恐後和林劃清關係的時候 -pacificwest- 給 pacificwest 發送悄悄話 (773 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 16:04:56

We were talking about his tendency of shooting first as a PG. -weston- 給 weston 發送悄悄話 weston 的博客首頁 (136 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 16:54:36

你的point是說他獨,不帶往回的。 -pacificwest- 給 pacificwest 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 17:02:52

Combo Guard在現代籃球, 是優點. -NetMM- 給 NetMM 發送悄悄話 NetMM 的博客首頁 (442 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 19:17:57

231st in offensive and 74th in defensive RPM out of 430 NBA play -Goldentea- 給 Goldentea 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 07/16/2014 postreply 17:33:44

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