從一個林不粉(或林粉黑)的轉變看小林的進步

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ClutchFans上的Clutch是網站的創始人和管理員。眾所周知,雖然不好說他是林黑,但是他顯然絕不是個林粉。

昨天的比賽之後,偶然發現他的態度好像有些改變。現在摘幾個他最近的帖子,大家可以自己做出判斷。聯係到小林最近才有機會打自己的籃球,不少”真球迷“抱怨說,林粉們在這幾場球以後又瘋狂了。莫非Clutch也像板凳一樣,是個骨子裏的真林粉?再聯想到不少去年這個時候還百般貶低小林的網友,現在也幡然悔過,以林粉的麵目出現,不禁想到(當然不能用信仰說話,否則又不知被扣上什麽帽子),老祖宗說的,冥冥之中自有天意。

下麵是Clutch最近的一些帖子:

這是Clutch在3月18日有意轉貼了一個引起極大爭議的帖子“[CultureMap] Jeremy Lin shackeling hurts the Rockets: Almost treated with Tim Tebow disdain”後評論所謂“林粉”的帖子,及網友的回帖,這也是我第一次接觸到“林粉黑”這個概念。

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CultureMap is really more of a social scene/fine art website, though they did have the first article with quotes from Calvin Murphy that leaked that he would be back with the broadcast. That's a paid sports editor who wrote that. It's not BleacherReport, though after asking around, they have a pretty bad rep as a social rag. This particular "editorial" just happens to be lower than BleacherReport quality.

I don't think many fully grasp just how bad this thing is. I was laughing almost the entire time I read it. It's alarming (though not surprising) how many people think it's spot on in the comments. Even more funny are the "well researched" or "excellent analysis" responses. We're talking about a massive amount of low basketball IQ fans here... fans who don't actually watch the games.

But aren't BB IQ "fans" kind of a subjective item? No offense Clutch but some peeps stated that playing Beverly meant no drop off in Defense and only slightly in offense. Every stat shown sideways shows that Lin is a superior defender, one of two of the best on the team and his offense, though he struggles from time to time, is LIGHTYEARS ahead of Beverly's.

What I find more hilarious is the wanton nature by many on this board, mostly the older posters, who for some reason are blinded by such hate for a certain type of poster on this board, to actually wish a player on the Rockets to suck. Last I checked that's kind of the pot calling the kettle black. Older posters hate on "LOFs" for being a fan of one player over team. Yet by wishing Lin to suck more, doesn't this inherently infringe on the "TEAMS" success? I mean it reeks of hypocrisy.

Blinded by hate for the fans of a player, we immediately have to hate on the player. Nice.

I mean I guess nice find on this article that you so completely disagree with. 


Hate to tell you man. You come up short on this one.

在這之後,拉登哥受傷了,在我火贏了快船之後,CF上有個“certified troll”貼出了“Are the Rockets better without Harden?”,說到“We cruised by one of the best teams in the league without him -- maybe it's time to consider having him come off the bench”。

奇怪的是,Clutch並沒有刪除這個惹事的“troll”,至今還在第一頁掛著,已經有近3萬個點擊,500多個回帖,26頁,而且討論越來越趨於理性。

更有甚者,昨天賽後,CF出現了另一個,“certified troll”?“ Jeremy Lin with Rockets > Jeremy Lin with Knicks ”,

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Sorry,
there's no poll. There doesn't need to be.

He's just a better player with the Rockets. Tonight was a great example.

Better situation, Better superstars, better bench, Better team, Better coach, Better basketball tradition, and Better fan based website created from a better guy who named it after the better team in 94, and obviously better team loyal fans



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Clutch在第13樓,跟了這樣一個帖子:

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Strange. Calvin Murphy just said this exact same thing. Said Calvin in the postgame:

"Right now, I feel he's playing much better basketball here in Houston than he did when he was in New York when they had Linmania. It was a fluke of nature what he was doing during that short span of time. What he's doing now is he's a legitimate ballplayer in all sense of the word, quarterbacking the team, helping out, hustling around defensively. So I think he's a much better ballplayer than he was in New York, but then again, you're in New York, where they blow things up sky high when it's going well."

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真心的希望小林在我火取得成功?顯然,這與通過”黑“林粉而”黑“小林的身份不符。

不是我不明白,這個世界變化快。

所有跟帖: 

慢慢看吧,一兩個帖子不說明問題。不過最近clutch 上傳了 -萬綠叢中- 給 萬綠叢中 發送悄悄話 萬綠叢中 的博客首頁 (65 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:08:53

There is Lin highlight after every single game, -Warsteiner- 給 Warsteiner 發送悄悄話 Warsteiner 的博客首頁 (472 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:22:36

我貼裏是在說 clutch 上傳了小林的精彩 play 呀?難道你不同意? -萬綠叢中- 給 萬綠叢中 發送悄悄話 萬綠叢中 的博客首頁 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:27:36

我同意的,就是提醒一下這是每場比賽後都有的。 -Warsteiner- 給 Warsteiner 發送悄悄話 Warsteiner 的博客首頁 (194 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:30:31

以前clutch上小林的比賽片段都是其他人傳上,最近clutch本人 -萬綠叢中- 給 萬綠叢中 發送悄悄話 萬綠叢中 的博客首頁 (71 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:34:47

這裏是clutch 昨天上傳的小林“dance” ,,, -萬綠叢中- 給 萬綠叢中 發送悄悄話 萬綠叢中 的博客首頁 (124 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:24:26

這個可以算小林最精彩的move 之一,和在紐約時對Lakers -萬綠叢中- 給 萬綠叢中 發送悄悄話 萬綠叢中 的博客首頁 (34 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:29:39

再傳一個類似的 -馬馬甲甲- 給 馬馬甲甲 發送悄悄話 (86 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 12:11:45

看不見你的照片?是照片嗎? -萬綠叢中- 給 萬綠叢中 發送悄悄話 萬綠叢中 的博客首頁 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 12:22:28

這是動圖林克:http://i3.hoopchina.com.cn/blogfile/201304/06/13652288042 -馬馬甲甲- 給 馬馬甲甲 發送悄悄話 (145 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 12:41:22

這個動作是探戈. :)) 對老魚那個360度轉身. 沒暈, 還能找到籃筐在哪 -Fengweidou- 給 Fengweidou 發送悄悄話 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 12:15:35

咱就等著板凳的轉變:) -Redcheetah- 給 Redcheetah 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:11:45

板凳心裏早就是林密,他就是要和推媽林粉鬥悶子。 -萬綠叢中- 給 萬綠叢中 發送悄悄話 萬綠叢中 的博客首頁 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:15:14

你高估板凳的幽默感了。 -gushen- 給 gushen 發送悄悄話 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:16:28

沒關係,板凳實在鬧得慌,推媽們一起修理他。量他也 -萬綠叢中- 給 萬綠叢中 發送悄悄話 萬綠叢中 的博客首頁 (24 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:39:21

板凳老狡猾狡猾地,你看昨天形勢一不妙老早開溜了,想砸他連影子也找不到了^_^ -新林迷- 給 新林迷 發送悄悄話 新林迷 的博客首頁 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:51:46

如果季後賽火箭對馬刺, 這裏有熱鬧看了. 板凳一人挑戰我們一大群:)) -Fengweidou- 給 Fengweidou 發送悄悄話 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:26:10

那真是激動人心,激動人心啊,希望能成真! -新林迷- 給 新林迷 發送悄悄話 新林迷 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:30:32

肯定壇子裏要鬧翻了天,好玩,期待,,,可惜不大可能。 -萬綠叢中- 給 萬綠叢中 發送悄悄話 萬綠叢中 的博客首頁 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:35:47

馬刺可能會第二. 現在看火箭第七可能性最大 -Fengweidou- 給 Fengweidou 發送悄悄話 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:46:12

好像這個對決有看頭,不是因為板凳,而是教課書和橫衝直撞的打法。 -talkatwxc- 給 talkatwxc 發送悄悄話 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:53:47

學習馬刺; 刺倒馬刺! -Redcheetah- 給 Redcheetah 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 15:53:20

板凳信誓旦旦馬刺不會防水,躲避湖人。 -萬綠叢中- 給 萬綠叢中 發送悄悄話 萬綠叢中 的博客首頁 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:55:12

火箭是underdog肯定的,估計第一場讓6分以上,但粉喜歡做的夢就是upset. -talkatwxc- 給 talkatwxc 發送悄悄話 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 13:02:30

學習馬刺; 刺倒馬刺! -Redcheetah- 給 Redcheetah 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 15:52:30

Flattering yourself a little bit too much?:) -Warsteiner- 給 Warsteiner 發送悄悄話 Warsteiner 的博客首頁 (1501 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:18:47

如果你這些話不是借用clutch 裏麵某人的,俺知道你是誰啦,lol -萬綠叢中- 給 萬綠叢中 發送悄悄話 萬綠叢中 的博客首頁 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:41:28

對號入座,有願打的,就有願挨的。記得有句老話,做賊三年,不打自招。 -馬馬甲甲- 給 馬馬甲甲 發送悄悄話 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:44:24

什麽意思?我是猜測誰是戰專家,如果我猜的正確,他是老clutch了。 -萬綠叢中- 給 萬綠叢中 發送悄悄話 萬綠叢中 的博客首頁 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:54:07

他曾為姚明在那裏戰鬥,當然是老clutch -Fengweidou- 給 Fengweidou 發送悄悄話 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:57:42

你看沒看見上邊我貼的小林‘dance’?真不錯。 -萬綠叢中- 給 萬綠叢中 發送悄悄話 萬綠叢中 的博客首頁 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 12:00:02

當然看了. 昨晚第一節沒看完, 就睡著了. 第一節隻得一分, 以為又要被冰, 今早看見這個數據,好開心 -Fengweidou- 給 Fengweidou 發送悄悄話 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 12:12:05

哈哈哈,誰讓你不堅持到最後,missed all the fun -萬綠叢中- 給 萬綠叢中 發送悄悄話 萬綠叢中 的博客首頁 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 12:16:03

在這裏也同樣貶過小林。讓我想起楊毅。 -馬馬甲甲- 給 馬馬甲甲 發送悄悄話 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 12:01:48

這撕楊毅, 靠要命發起來的? -Redcheetah- 給 Redcheetah 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 17:41:21

不記得在那裏說過完全同樣的話,不過這個倒不重要拉:) -Warsteiner- 給 Warsteiner 發送悄悄話 Warsteiner 的博客首頁 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:51:01

既然你是老clutch,你說說那個錫人是咋回事? 總見他沒事挑事。 -萬綠叢中- 給 萬綠叢中 發送悄悄話 萬綠叢中 的博客首頁 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:57:16

clutch was definitely a Lin-doubter initially, like many long-ti -gushen- 給 gushen 發送悄悄話 (796 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 12:00:21

假如我看見一個華人做什麽丟臉的事情,我不讚同但不見得會開口, -Warsteiner- 給 Warsteiner 發送悄悄話 Warsteiner 的博客首頁 (293 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 12:10:41

太同意了。這也是為什麽本ID以前不來從不灌水的,都忍不住經常來敲敲板凳。 -gushen- 給 gushen 發送悄悄話 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 12:14:27

我什麽時候自稱林粉了?我是林黑黑。專讓林黑不舒服。嘿嘿。 -gushen- 給 gushen 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 13:55:26

頂W總。 -ctgolfer- 給 ctgolfer 發送悄悄話 ctgolfer 的博客首頁 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 12:15:20

還有戰專家對小林是 tough love,推媽對小林是tender love -萬綠叢中- 給 萬綠叢中 發送悄悄話 萬綠叢中 的博客首頁 (65 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 12:21:12

謝謝誇獎,不敢當:) -Warsteiner- 給 Warsteiner 發送悄悄話 Warsteiner 的博客首頁 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 12:27:25

對clutch這個創始人, 隊員粉太狹隘. 他是火箭粉, 誰為火箭贏球他就支持誰 -Fengweidou- 給 Fengweidou 發送悄悄話 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:22:59

可惜的是,他自己把自己把自己裝進去了。要不hak34能說他Blinded by hate for the fans of a p -馬馬甲甲- 給 馬馬甲甲 發送悄悄話 (54 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:50:48

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