Sorry I can’t type Chinese now but would like to share my 2 cent

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回答: 求助 - 找不到@_@ -空心竹2012-04-11 11:28:29

First of all, I think that is a great list that @@ put together. But I do think it needs to be adjusted depending on where you plan to camp most of the time and your other personal needs (e.g. tolerance of cold or hot temperatures, etc).  Winter camping really needs another set of camping gear of its own.

Along the same line of thoughts, any list are only suggestions and it is highly personalized in my opinion.  You really need to ask yourself, what type of weather/season you are most likely to camp or backpack in and your altitude.  High altitude (above 3000 meters), for example, will affect stoves. What would be the type of weather, wet or dry? I personally try to get gear that I can add or subtract with cold and warm season change so that I don’t have to buy two sets.  Having a backpacking partner also helps as you can not only split weight and use each other as backups (i.e. in case your gear fails, you have a backup). In cold weather, sharing a tent not only keeps your warm, it also keeps your weight down.  Not to mention, you have an extra layer of safety with a partner in case things go wrong.

So my thoughts on the @@ list-

1.    背包:我用的是Gregory Palisade 80. 中號的。(背起來特別舒服,強烈推薦

Backpack is highly personalized.  In addition to weight and features, it must fit your frame.  It needs to be fully tested in the store with weight.  That is one item I prefer not to buy over internet and if I buy it in stores, I would like to make sure I can return it in case it hurts my back. 

2.    Outdoor ResearchGoreTex Bivy Bag

Bivy bag does not keep you warm, unless you are sharing it with someone else.  If you plan to snow camp, you will need mountaineering tent (4 season tent), which is not light and better shared with someone else.  These tents have 2 layers and opening for airflow to prevent condensation.  These tents are not light unfortunately and therefore, weight needs to be shared.  Bivy works well in desert or relatively warm weather.  I also have one I sometimes carry in my day pack as an emergency shelter just in case I get stuck in the mountains (yes, you do have to take into consideration the unplanned situations).

3.    Marmot Sawtooth 15 degree bag。(貴,易吸水是缺點。但保暖性和舒適性無與倫比。

15 degree bag is not warm enough for snow camping or fall camping.  This one is still on the heavy side at 3 lb with 600 fill power of the down.  You might want to look into Western Mountaineering, used by many mountaineers. They are not cheap.  I would also recommend adding a sleeping bag liner for extra layer of warmth and to protect your expensive bag.  Another advantage of the liner – you can add and subtract with temperature/season change.

Do also keep in mind down bag, once wet, will NOT keep you warm. 

4.    墊:Therm-a-Rest NeoAir Sleeping Pad 絕熱係數R-2.5,重量和體積都令人驚異今年冬假在False Kiva零下七八度的雪地的旅行時,一點也不覺得害怕為我知道加上Marmot Sawtooth的睡袋,晚上我會睡在豪華奢侈之中。

I was not able to find this particular pad but with R rating of 2.5, I don’t think this pad will be warm enough for snow camping for many of us.  I would recommend this one with a higher R rating even though it might be a little heavier, especially if you plan to winter/fall camp.

http://www.rei.com/product/829852/therm-a-rest-neoair-xlite-sleeping-pad-womens

5. Water: For water treatment, I would recommend SteriPen Adventurer (3.6 oz).  CAUTION: Do make sure you know how to use it and always carry iodine tablets as a backup. 

6. MSR Dragonfly Stove.

The dragonfly Stove, a little heavey, is a little complicated to use as you have to pump to prepare it.  If I remember right, this one does perform well in very cold temperature.  The diversified fuels it uses would be an advantage if you plan to use it internationally.

10. 食物:High protein and high calories.  I think @-@ mentioned 1800 cal a day and to me, that would be too light for what you do in the wilderness.

11. 一個急救包。(常用藥物,過敏藥,鎮痛藥等等)。MUST HAVE and what goes in here is also very important.  But too big a topic to cover here.

12. 多功能的哨子(哨子,指南針,放大鏡,溫度計合一)一個。GPS。防水火柴。防曬霜和驅蚊劑(最小號的幾乎用掉三分之二以後的),多功能瑞士軍刀一把

13.頭燈: Be sure to have backup batteries and backup bulb.

14. 衛生紙,垃圾袋。垃圾物品裝在垃圾袋裏掛在背包上Ziplock bags can be used to keep your feet dry in case your shoes get wet (wear it outside your dry socks).  GoreTex may not keep you dry in snow or the Northwest rain.  Ziplock bags and trash bags also serves the double function of waterproofing yourself and your equipment. Your $1 trash bag is much more likely to keep you dry in torrential rain than $500 Archteryx GoreTex jacket.

 15. 淨的超厚襪子一天一雙 and thin liner socks

16. One item I usually don't leave home without when backpacking or travelling internationally: sea-to-summit compression dry sack, the largest size

http://www.rei.com/product/730882/sea-to-summit-event-compression-dry-sack

16. 最原始的指南: know how to use

17. Bear proof is another big topic in many wilderness areas.  Too big a topic to go there.


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謝謝Wunderlust大俠,很有用的經驗之談,已經把你的這個加在右邊的補充上了, -空心竹- 給 空心竹 發送悄悄話 空心竹 的博客首頁 (278 bytes) () 04/11/2012 postreply 19:38:34

喔,大俠的不是:-)空姐姐不客氣,向你學習影技和雪地露營的勇氣 -wunderlust- 給 wunderlust 發送悄悄話 wunderlust 的博客首頁 (1012 bytes) () 04/12/2012 postreply 19:49:04

有點沒說明白,"能在帳篷的擋雨門簾下用"應該是REACTOR的優點 -wunderlust- 給 wunderlust 發送悄悄話 wunderlust 的博客首頁 (215 bytes) () 04/12/2012 postreply 22:47:44

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