Here is an article compare SS with Ponzi.

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Here is an article compare SS with Ponzi. 

http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/economicsunbound/archives/2008/12/is_social_secur.html

 

Is Social Security a Ponzi Scheme?

Posted by: Michael Mandel on December 28

(This is the first in a series on technology and the crisis)

In the aftermath of the Madoff implosion, quite a few people have pointed out the parallels between a Ponzi scheme and Social Security. Arnold Kling, whom I respect, has written:

I’ve been thinking that Madoff is a perfect analogy for the public sector. The government gives people money, which it expects to obtain by taking the money from people in the future. Even the Center on Budget Policy and Priorities, not known as a right-wing organization, sees the U.S. fiscal stance as unsustainable (pointer from Ezra Klein via Tyler Cowen)—in other words, a Ponzi scheme.

 


Other people have gone farther. Paul Mulshine of the New Jersey Star Ledger wrote a columnentitled “The Ponzi scheme that Baby Boomers are waiting to cash in on.” And Jim Cramer hascalled Social Security the biggest Ponzi scheme in history.


Superficially, these critics have a point, and there is a parallel between Social Security and a Ponzi scheme. But on a fundamental level, they are very wrong, and it’s worth explaining why.

First, the parallel. Social Security taxes current workers to pay Social Security benefits for current retirees. In other words, the new entrants into the Social Security system, the young workers, pay off the previous entrants, the older workers. And despite the fact you have a Social Security “account”, there is no necessary link between what you paid into the system in taxes, and what you receive.

That’s very similar to the structure of a Ponzi scheme, where new investors pay off the original investors. As long as enough new ‘victims’ are brought into the scheme, it keeps growing and growing. But when the new investors runs out, the Ponzi collapses. Analogously, the slowdown in population growth puts pressure on Social Security finances.

But there is one enormous difference between Social Security and a Ponzi scheme: Technological change. Over the past century, new technologies have enabled the output of the country to grow much faster than its population. To be more precise, the U.S. population has more than tripled since the early 1900s, while the U.S. economic output has gone up by more than 20 times.

This long track record of technology-powered growth has enabled the enormous rise in living standards in the U.S. and other developed countries. In fact, this increase in productivity—output per worker—is the key fact which gives us our way of life today.

Assuming that technological progress continues over the next 70 years, and output productivity growth continues over the next 70 years, the finances of Social Security are relatively easy to fix. A fairly minor cut in benefits, combined with a relatively small increase in taxes, will bring the system back into balance again. (the latest Social Security report projects a 75-year deficit of $4.3 trillion. That sounds like a lot of money, but over 75 years it’s roughly $60 billion a year…not chicken feed, but not overwhelming).

But here’s the rub. Ultimately our ability to make good on the “Ponzi-like” nature of Social Security depends on the continued march of technological progress—and in particular, innovation which boosts output and living standards. If we leave the younger generation a good legacy—a sound scientific and technological base, combined with an innovative and flexible economy and an educated workforce—then Social Security is not a Ponzi scheme. The economy grows, and there’s more than enough resources for everyone.

But if instead we—the current generation—invest in homes, flat-screen televisions and SUVs, then we don’t leave the next generation with the technological “seed corn” they need. If the technological progress slows, then Social Security does turn out to be Ponzi-like—with unfortunate consequences for everyone.

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簡單說,SS 的基礎有兩個,1)人口增長,2)收入增長。 -老忽叔叔- 給 老忽叔叔 發送悄悄話 (329 bytes) () 09/19/2012 postreply 22:15:13

這個道理與銀行存錢很像。銀行如果不把存款投資賺錢,銀行就是Ponzi。 -老忽叔叔- 給 老忽叔叔 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/19/2012 postreply 22:22:18

銀行強製存錢嗎?俺可以存家裏保險櫃不放銀行的 -二忽悠- 給 二忽悠 發送悄悄話 二忽悠 的博客首頁 (580 bytes) () 09/19/2012 postreply 23:03:02

你覺得債倦利息不是受益,銀行利息才是? -老忽叔叔- 給 老忽叔叔 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/19/2012 postreply 23:05:08

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