https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/china-disqualifies-pro-independence-hong-kong-lawmakers/2016/11/06/4a6795f2-a49d-11e6-9bd6-184ab22d218e_story.html?wpisrc=nl_p1most-partner-1&wpmm=1#comments
This is only the 1st step. Next, the Hong Kong police must charge these two for illegal transpassing the government building. These two must be serve prison terms. Laws must be upheld!
Lock them up!
Lock them up!
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What a tempest in a teapot! I think that Beijing did overreact a bit, and that its intervention may undermine Hong Kong’s rule of law. But I see nothing wrong here for several reasons. First, the basic law is based on the notion of one country, two systems. Well, one protestor displayed a band, saying Hong Kong is Not China. Second, the woman insulted Chinese people in vulgar language, and she is one of them. Third, one needs to follow rule. During the Olympics opening ceremony, no leader of the hosting country is allowed to add or delete one word for the official announcement. When US president is sworn in, one has to follow the same wording, except for the name of the elected president. It is unimaginable and unacceptable to protest against the US constitution and to use vulgar language to insult American people during the ceremony.
It is beyond me that people are rooting for these two dim-witted youngsters. They have right to express their opinions on different occasions, but to serve as public servants is a privilege. Their behavior means they voluntarily give up their privilege. If they had said sorry, that would have been a different story. Instead they went to Taiwan to spread their ideas and instigated protests and riots the other day.”
It is beyond me that people are rooting for these two dim-witted youngsters. They have right to express their opinions on different occasions, but to serve as public servants is a privilege. Their behavior means they voluntarily give up their privilege. If they had said sorry, that would have been a different story. Instead they went to Taiwan to spread their ideas and instigated protests and riots the other day.”
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Tenant1234
Hong Kong is small part of China and will be forever. Those brainless worms who fancy independence and US exported opium should leave and join the refugees in Middle East to get a taste of being without a country.
The 2nd thing to do for China is to send the US Consul home together with all the CIA operatives and NGOs trouble makers in HK.
The 2nd thing to do for China is to send the US Consul home together with all the CIA operatives and NGOs trouble makers in HK.
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Sharp Eyes
4:17 PM MST [Edited]
China is right on this one. If anyone is insulting USA and its people when taking the oath, he of course isn't qualified to serve too.
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Hong Kong was captured by Britain during the First Opium War from 1839 to 1842 in which Britain fought to sell opium to China. Japan occupied it in WWII, but it was returned to Britain after the war. Negotiation in the 1980's established a return to China in 1997 with greater rights for the people of Hong Kong than those available on the mainland.
However, China has been the victim of foreign aggression for China's territory in the past and refuses to allow separatism, or "splittism," from China. Foreign imperialists who seek to divide China for their own power games, whether in Hong Kong, Taiwan, Tibet, or Xinjiang, will be disappointed.
However, China has been the victim of foreign aggression for China's territory in the past and refuses to allow separatism, or "splittism," from China. Foreign imperialists who seek to divide China for their own power games, whether in Hong Kong, Taiwan, Tibet, or Xinjiang, will be disappointed.
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Hard to judge without ACCURATE TRANSCRIPT on what they actually said would be freaking nice.
Based on what I can infer this would play out same way in the USA. "He took his oath on a quran instead of a bible! He forgot to say a word! RabbleRabbleRabble!" If you want the title you take the oath I don't see a defensible position here.
Based on what I can infer this would play out same way in the USA. "He took his oath on a quran instead of a bible! He forgot to say a word! RabbleRabbleRabble!" If you want the title you take the oath I don't see a defensible position here.
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Hong Kong’s independent legal system stands at the heart of the One Country, Two Systems model under which the territory was granted significant autonomy from Beijing.
But independent legal system will work only as long as China permits it to work.
And China has put down its foot and nothing that Hong Kong protesters do will reverse it.
Hong Kong has NO choice but to become just one province of almighty Communist nation that no power on this earth has any ability left to challenge.
??Let us toast the genius of Nixon-Kissinger to embrace Communist China in 1972 to counter Soviet Union that has culminated in the fastest rise possible of a super power to challenge USA.
Afterall Communist China was just as pariah in the world at the time as today's North Korea until that Nixon-Kissinger embrace.
But independent legal system will work only as long as China permits it to work.
And China has put down its foot and nothing that Hong Kong protesters do will reverse it.
Hong Kong has NO choice but to become just one province of almighty Communist nation that no power on this earth has any ability left to challenge.
??Let us toast the genius of Nixon-Kissinger to embrace Communist China in 1972 to counter Soviet Union that has culminated in the fastest rise possible of a super power to challenge USA.
Afterall Communist China was just as pariah in the world at the time as today's North Korea until that Nixon-Kissinger embrace.
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typingmonkey2
Okay! A little perspective here folks.
If some 25 year old Hawaiian was elected to the House of Representatives and put her hand on the Bible and said "I swear to upfuk and defecate on the Constitution, and Hawaii is NOT Amerika, so help me Satan", that wouldn't go over so well in Washington either. You swear an oath to office. That is not a joke, a tweet, or a bumper sticker.
Furthermore, in reality and by law Hong Kong was first a part of China, then a part of the British Empire, then China again. It was never independent. If these young twits tried their stunt prior to 1997 and called the Queen a cunnt, the British would not have been amused either.
Advocating for democracy is one thing. Advocating secession is quite another, as these adolescents have yet to learn.
As for Hong Kong's pouty legal establishment, their rulings regarding secessionist activities are rather beside the point. Sovereign integrity is clearly a national interest, so Beijing's primacy is obvious. In other words, it is not up to Hawaii's AG to adjudicate secessionist activity. It is up to the DOJ. Failing that, it falls to the Pentagon. You all remember 1861, don't you?
If some 25 year old Hawaiian was elected to the House of Representatives and put her hand on the Bible and said "I swear to upfuk and defecate on the Constitution, and Hawaii is NOT Amerika, so help me Satan", that wouldn't go over so well in Washington either. You swear an oath to office. That is not a joke, a tweet, or a bumper sticker.
Furthermore, in reality and by law Hong Kong was first a part of China, then a part of the British Empire, then China again. It was never independent. If these young twits tried their stunt prior to 1997 and called the Queen a cunnt, the British would not have been amused either.
Advocating for democracy is one thing. Advocating secession is quite another, as these adolescents have yet to learn.
As for Hong Kong's pouty legal establishment, their rulings regarding secessionist activities are rather beside the point. Sovereign integrity is clearly a national interest, so Beijing's primacy is obvious. In other words, it is not up to Hawaii's AG to adjudicate secessionist activity. It is up to the DOJ. Failing that, it falls to the Pentagon. You all remember 1861, don't you?
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2:12 PM MST
You're incorrect on all your points. And the Basic Law does not give Beijing the right to refuse to seat duly elected representatives. They simply have ignored the Basic Law. It, One Country, Two Systems, and the promises Beijing made in 1997, are all dead.
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5:37 PM MST
You are incorrect yourself. According to article 158 of Hong Kong's Basic Law,
"The power of interpretation of this Law shall be vested in the Standing Committee of the National People's Congress."
Not only that, the committee also obtains its power of interpretation from China's constitution. And this is not the first time China has exercised its right of interpretation in regard to the Basic Law.
And the two would-be representatives clearly violated article 104 of the Basic Law as quoted in my other post. Besides, Hong Kong's qualified judicial autonomy is based on the premise of "one country, two systems." By refusing to take allegiance to "one country," the two persons forfeited their right to become Hong Kong's legislators. It's rather pretty plain and simple.
"The power of interpretation of this Law shall be vested in the Standing Committee of the National People's Congress."
Not only that, the committee also obtains its power of interpretation from China's constitution. And this is not the first time China has exercised its right of interpretation in regard to the Basic Law.
And the two would-be representatives clearly violated article 104 of the Basic Law as quoted in my other post. Besides, Hong Kong's qualified judicial autonomy is based on the premise of "one country, two systems." By refusing to take allegiance to "one country," the two persons forfeited their right to become Hong Kong's legislators. It's rather pretty plain and simple.
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